Knife Tool?

[Bruce Kieffer]

How do I stop the knife tool from clipping off the end of the line I'm
trying to split when I get close to the end of that line?

[Judy Arndt]

Bruce Kieffer wrote:

> How do I stop the knife tool from clipping off the end of the line I'm
> trying to split when I get close to the end of that line?

What version of FH? Platform?

What are your knife tool setting? Set to 0 (zero) width and 'tight fit'.

The knife tool occasionally misbehaves for me, deleting something it should
not. I just undo and make the cut again. The second time it usually works
properly.

Judy Arndt
--
FHMXa, G4, Mac OS 10.3

[Bruce Kieffer]

in article BBCAB211.9D62%jarndt@shawbiz.ca, Judy Arndt at [email]jarndt@shawbiz.ca[/email]
wrote on 11/2/03 2:07 PM:

> Bruce Kieffer wrote:
>

>> How do I stop the knife tool from clipping off the end of the line I'm
>> trying to split when I get close to the end of that line?

>
> What version of FH? Platform?
>
> What are your knife tool setting? Set to 0 (zero) width and 'tight fit'.
>
> The knife tool occasionally misbehaves for me, deleting something it should
> not. I just undo and make the cut again. The second time it usually works
> properly.
>
> Judy Arndt
> --
> FHMXa, G4, Mac OS 10.3

FH MX 11, G4, Mac OS 10.2.8. My knife tool is set that way. Still clips off
ends when is close and near the line's end.

[Judy Arndt]

Bruce Kieffer wrote:

> FH MX 11, G4, Mac OS 10.2.8. My knife tool is set that way. Still clips off
> ends when is close and near the line's end.

I can't make it happen today, but I know I've seen it before. How long (in
points) is the segment that is being deleted?

If you're using FHMXa (version 11.0.1) then I suggest you report this as a
bug to:

[url]http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/?6213=10[/url]

Judy Arndt

[Bruce Kieffer]

in article BBCABC8F.9D73%jarndt@shawbiz.ca, Judy Arndt at [email]jarndt@shawbiz.ca[/email]
wrote on 11/2/03 2:52 PM:

> How long (in
> points) is the segment that is being deleted?

The knife tool deletes cut line when the knife is closer than 1 point.

[Judy Arndt]

Bruce Kieffer wrote:

> The knife tool deletes cut line when the knife is closer than 1 point.

Yes, I'm seeing this. Now if you zoom in to a high magnification you may see
what appears to be a stray point left behind. However, if you drag on one of
these stray points, a line emerges, you'll see that it's actually two points
on a line of zero length!

I believe this is related to a bug that was supposedly fixed.

Quoted from this page of bux fixes in FHMXa (watch text wrap of link):

[url]http://www.macromedia.com/support/freehand/ts/documents/fh11_0_1overview.htm[/url]

"The problem with some small shapes collapsing like deflated balloons when
cut with the knife tool has been improved. We have reduced the sensitivity
of when points are merged from within 1 point of each other to 1/2 point.
This fixes the problem as reported but really small shapes may still display
this problem."

The problem is that the length of the small line segment is being rounded
down to zero, leaving behind what are essentially stray points.

The workaround would be to use the pen tool to place a point. With the point
still selected, Modify > Split.

Now I have to ask, why do you need line segments less that one point long?

Judy Arndt

--
FHMXa, G4, Mac OS 10.3

[Bruce Kieffer]

in article BBCACC3E.9D93%jarndt@shawbiz.ca, Judy Arndt at [email]jarndt@shawbiz.ca[/email]
wrote on 11/2/03 3:59 PM:

>> The knife tool deletes cut line when the knife is closer than 1 point.

>
> Yes, I'm seeing this. Now if you zoom in to a high magnification you may see
> what appears to be a stray point left behind. However, if you drag on one of
> these stray points, a line emerges, you'll see that it's actually two points
> on a line of zero length!

I don't see any residue point, just my knifed line shortened instead of cut
in 2.

[Judy Arndt]

Bruce Kieffer wrote:

> I don't see any residue point, just my knifed line shortened instead of cut
> in 2.

Draw a line 0.05 point wide. Zoom in to max magnification of 6400%. With
Knife, cut off a piece about the same length as the line width. Cut again a
few times with the remaining segment. Now 'Select All'. Are any stray points
selected?

Judy Arndt

[Judy Arndt]

Judy Arndt wrote:

> Zoom in to max magnification of 6400%.

Sorry, had zoomed to 256 x, with zoom tool.

Judy

[Bruce Kieffer]

in article BBCADDE8.9DB9%jarndt@shawbiz.ca, Judy Arndt at [email]jarndt@shawbiz.ca[/email]
wrote on 11/2/03 5:14 PM:

> Draw a line 0.05 point wide. Zoom in to max magnification of 6400%. With
> Knife, cut off a piece about the same length as the line width. Cut again a
> few times with the remaining segment. Now 'Select All'. Are any stray points
> selected?

No stray points, just with each cut the shorter section disappears.