Major pixel font troubles

[feedback@sideburn.com]

I am having the strangest problem with my pixel fonts.
First off. I have everything aligned x,y at a whole number (no fractional
positions for any of the fonts), dynamic text, etc.. All the rules that I
know of when dealing with pixel fonts.

The problem is when I load this swf into a container movieclip in a parent
swf the text is getting blurred.

If you go to [url]http://sideburn.com/eripe/music.html[/url] you will see everything is
fine. No blurred text.

But if you go to [url]http://sideburn.com/eripe/mainframe.html[/url] and go to the
"music" page you will see the tracks in the scrollable list are now blurred.

I have output the x,y position of all the swfs (this._x , _parent._x ,
_parent._parent._x and same for _y) and it is identical between the two
versions. I have even written a timer and had it slightly offset the
position every 5 seconds by adding .1 to x and then y as well as alternating
back and forth between x and y to see if it ever corrected itself. No luck.

The list is getting filled by dupicating a movieclip containing the text
that¹s getting blurred but it is positioning it vertically in a whole number
increment.

Its boggling my mind.. If anyone can figure this one out I will be very
Impressed and happy!

Thanks for looking,

Tavis

[Jeckyl]

right-click on the movie that works and look at quality settings .. it is
low
right-click on the movie that is blurry and look at quality settings .. it
is high.

high quality will do aliasing (smoothing), and low quality won't.

For text, low quality often gives crisper results.

If you set both movies to low quality, then the image is crisp , if you set
both to high, then it is blurry.

That still means there is a problem with your text placement in the movie,
as it must not all be on pixel boundaries and properly aligned (otherwise
the text would not blur in high quality mode)

I'll look a little further

--
All the best,
Jeckyl

[Jeckyl]

Too tricky for me to see what is going on there from the SWF, as the text
appears dynamically generated somewhere. Balls in your court not.

BTW: nice music :)

--
All the best,
Jeckyl

[ELC]

"feedback@sideburn.com" <feedback@sideburn.com> wrote in message news:<BDCA995D.F323%feedback@sideburn.com>...

> I am having the strangest problem with my pixel fonts.
> First off. I have everything aligned x,y at a whole number (no fractional
> positions for any of the fonts), dynamic text, etc.. All the rules that I
> know of when dealing with pixel fonts.
>
> The problem is when I load this swf into a container movieclip in a parent
> swf the text is getting blurred.
>
> If you go to [url]http://sideburn.com/eripe/music.html[/url] you will see everything is
> fine. No blurred text.
>
> But if you go to [url]http://sideburn.com/eripe/mainframe.html[/url] and go to the
> "music" page you will see the tracks in the scrollable list are now blurred.
>
> I have output the x,y position of all the swfs (this._x , _parent._x ,
> _parent._parent._x and same for _y) and it is identical between the two
> versions. I have even written a timer and had it slightly offset the
> position every 5 seconds by adding .1 to x and then y as well as alternating
> back and forth between x and y to see if it ever corrected itself. No luck.
>
> The list is getting filled by dupicating a movieclip containing the text
> that1s getting blurred but it is positioning it vertically in a whole number
> increment.
>
> Its boggling my mind.. If anyone can figure this one out I will be very
> Impressed and happy!
>
> Thanks for looking,
>
> Tavis

Hi. That's a nice looking site. Looks like you're a fan of
2advanced.com :-] I can't figure out what's wrong with the text
because not all of it looks blurred, only some lines in that one part
look blurred. Have you tried reentering that text? Does it look the
same when you publish a preview? It almost looks like the text field
was resized after the text was entered, like static, but I don't think
that's it.
Did you make the mp3 player or did you get it from somewhere? That
is exactly what I am looking for!

[sideburn]

Well actually I tried high quality instead of low and it still looked ok (on
the music.html file ie Not loaded into the container). I thought though that
I could have the main movie high quality and load in a low quality SWF. But
I guess that¹s not the case, but I don¹t think it matters though in this
case.

On 11/25/04 2:27 PM, in article
K%spd.48330$K7.43207@news-server.bigpond.net.au, "Jeckyl" <Jeckyl@Hyde.com>
wrote:

> right-click on the movie that works and look at quality settings .. it is
> low
> right-click on the movie that is blurry and look at quality settings .. it
> is high.
>
> high quality will do aliasing (smoothing), and low quality won't.
>
> For text, low quality often gives crisper results.
>
> If you set both movies to low quality, then the image is crisp , if you set
> both to high, then it is blurry.
>
> That still means there is a problem with your text placement in the movie,
> as it must not all be on pixel boundaries and properly aligned (otherwise
> the text would not blur in high quality mode)
>
> I'll look a little further

[sideburn]

Well.. I am stumped too, but I am about to make a window that will dump out
all of the scaling and positioning info and then add a button to force
everything to an integer/100% if they differ and see what happens. Its the
only thing I can think of at this point to debug it.

One odd thing is that when I run music.swf in flash by itself using test
movie.. It is blurred but then when I open it using music.html it is crisp.


... The music was done by the record label and that girl.. I just did the
website.. But glad to hear you like it.

On 11/25/04 2:41 PM, in article
wctpd.48338$K7.43423@news-server.bigpond.net.au, "Jeckyl" <Jeckyl@Hyde.com>
wrote:

> Too tricky for me to see what is going on there from the SWF, as the text
> appears dynamically generated somewhere. Balls in your court not.
>
> BTW: nice music :)

[sideburn]

Thanks, yeah The text field in the scroller are actually a movieclip that
duplicates and repositions vertically depending on the number of mp3 files
you have in a music folder. I think that is the root of the problem but the
position is set at an integer value so im not sure what's going wrong.

Yeah I made the music player. But the client kind of owns it..

I wrote the code a while back and since then have seen some pretty good
public domain stuff.

I can definitely help you out if your stuck on something

I found this the other day and I think you can download the FLA file
[url]http://www.gurusnetwork.com/tutorial/fmx_mp3/[/url]


On 11/25/04 5:32 PM, in article
[email]ebfa4074.0411251732.35959170@posting.google.com[/email], "ELC" <eric@elcmedia.com>
wrote:

> "feedback@sideburn.com" <feedback@sideburn.com> wrote in message
> news:<BDCA995D.F323%feedback@sideburn.com>...

>> I am having the strangest problem with my pixel fonts.
>> First off. I have everything aligned x,y at a whole number (no fractional
>> positions for any of the fonts), dynamic text, etc.. All the rules that I
>> know of when dealing with pixel fonts.
>>
>> The problem is when I load this swf into a container movieclip in a parent
>> swf the text is getting blurred.
>>
>> If you go to [url]http://sideburn.com/eripe/music.html[/url] you will see everything is
>> fine. No blurred text.
>>
>> But if you go to [url]http://sideburn.com/eripe/mainframe.html[/url] and go to the
>> "music" page you will see the tracks in the scrollable list are now blurred.
>>
>> I have output the x,y position of all the swfs (this._x , _parent._x ,
>> _parent._parent._x and same for _y) and it is identical between the two
>> versions. I have even written a timer and had it slightly offset the
>> position every 5 seconds by adding .1 to x and then y as well as alternating
>> back and forth between x and y to see if it ever corrected itself. No luck.
>>
>> The list is getting filled by dupicating a movieclip containing the text
>> that1s getting blurred but it is positioning it vertically in a whole number
>> increment.
>>
>> Its boggling my mind.. If anyone can figure this one out I will be very
>> Impressed and happy!
>>
>> Thanks for looking,
>>
>> Tavis

>
> Hi. That's a nice looking site. Looks like you're a fan of
> 2advanced.com :-] I can't figure out what's wrong with the text
> because not all of it looks blurred, only some lines in that one part
> look blurred. Have you tried reentering that text? Does it look the
> same when you publish a preview? It almost looks like the text field
> was resized after the text was entered, like static, but I don't think
> that's it.
> Did you make the mp3 player or did you get it from somewhere? That
> is exactly what I am looking for!

[sideburn]

Problem solved.

For those of you who might be interested I posted it on
macromedia.flash.actionscript

--------

On 11/26/04 1:23 AM, in article BDCC360C.FB55%xxx@yyy.zzz, "sideburn"
<xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> Thanks, yeah The text field in the scroller are actually a movieclip that
> duplicates and repositions vertically depending on the number of mp3 files
> you have in a music folder. I think that is the root of the problem but the
> position is set at an integer value so im not sure what's going wrong.
>
> Yeah I made the music player. But the client kind of owns it..
>
> I wrote the code a while back and since then have seen some pretty good
> public domain stuff.
>
> I can definitely help you out if your stuck on something
>
> I found this the other day and I think you can download the FLA file
> [url]http://www.gurusnetwork.com/tutorial/fmx_mp3/[/url]
>
>
> On 11/25/04 5:32 PM, in article
> [email]ebfa4074.0411251732.35959170@posting.google.com[/email], "ELC" <eric@elcmedia.com>
> wrote:
>

>> "feedback@sideburn.com" <feedback@sideburn.com> wrote in message
>> news:<BDCA995D.F323%feedback@sideburn.com>...

>>> I am having the strangest problem with my pixel fonts.
>>> First off. I have everything aligned x,y at a whole number (no fractional
>>> positions for any of the fonts), dynamic text, etc.. All the rules that I
>>> know of when dealing with pixel fonts.
>>>
>>> The problem is when I load this swf into a container movieclip in a parent
>>> swf the text is getting blurred.
>>>
>>> If you go to [url]http://sideburn.com/eripe/music.html[/url] you will see everything is
>>> fine. No blurred text.
>>>
>>> But if you go to [url]http://sideburn.com/eripe/mainframe.html[/url] and go to the
>>> "music" page you will see the tracks in the scrollable list are now blurred.
>>>
>>> I have output the x,y position of all the swfs (this._x , _parent._x ,
>>> _parent._parent._x and same for _y) and it is identical between the two
>>> versions. I have even written a timer and had it slightly offset the
>>> position every 5 seconds by adding .1 to x and then y as well as alternating
>>> back and forth between x and y to see if it ever corrected itself. No luck.
>>>
>>> The list is getting filled by dupicating a movieclip containing the text
>>> that1s getting blurred but it is positioning it vertically in a whole number
>>> increment.
>>>
>>> Its boggling my mind.. If anyone can figure this one out I will be very
>>> Impressed and happy!
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking,
>>>
>>> Tavis

>>
>> Hi. That's a nice looking site. Looks like you're a fan of
>> 2advanced.com :-] I can't figure out what's wrong with the text
>> because not all of it looks blurred, only some lines in that one part
>> look blurred. Have you tried reentering that text? Does it look the
>> same when you publish a preview? It almost looks like the text field
>> was resized after the text was entered, like static, but I don't think
>> that's it.
>> Did you make the mp3 player or did you get it from somewhere? That
>> is exactly what I am looking for!

>

[ELC]

sideburn <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote in message news:<BDCC360C.FB55%xxx@yyy.zzz>...

> Thanks, yeah The text field in the scroller are actually a movieclip that
> duplicates and repositions vertically depending on the number of mp3 files
> you have in a music folder. I think that is the root of the problem but the
> position is set at an integer value so im not sure what's going wrong.
>
> Yeah I made the music player. But the client kind of owns it..
>
> I wrote the code a while back and since then have seen some pretty good
> public domain stuff.
>
> I can definitely help you out if your stuck on something
>
> I found this the other day and I think you can download the FLA file
> [url]http://www.gurusnetwork.com/tutorial/fmx_mp3/[/url]
>

Cool, thanks! I am a musician and I need something like that for that
my site. I could pay you if you're interested in working one for me.
I can build a basic one but that's it. I need one that displays track
titles so people can select what they're listening to. I would rather
pay someone to do it than spend the time on it. I have so much work
and not enough time! If you're interested let me know, post here or
email me [email]zz99z@netscape.net[/email].
Thanks.


Eric

>
> On 11/25/04 5:32 PM, in article
> [email]ebfa4074.0411251732.35959170@posting.google.com[/email], "ELC" <eric@elcmedia.com>
> wrote:
>

> > "feedback@sideburn.com" <feedback@sideburn.com> wrote in message
> > news:<BDCA995D.F323%feedback@sideburn.com>...

> >> I am having the strangest problem with my pixel fonts.
> >> First off. I have everything aligned x,y at a whole number (no fractional
> >> positions for any of the fonts), dynamic text, etc.. All the rules that I
> >> know of when dealing with pixel fonts.
> >>
> >> The problem is when I load this swf into a container movieclip in a parent
> >> swf the text is getting blurred.
> >>
> >> If you go to [url]http://sideburn.com/eripe/music.html[/url] you will see everything is
> >> fine. No blurred text.
> >>
> >> But if you go to [url]http://sideburn.com/eripe/mainframe.html[/url] and go to the
> >> "music" page you will see the tracks in the scrollable list are now blurred.
> >>
> >> I have output the x,y position of all the swfs (this._x , _parent._x ,
> >> _parent._parent._x and same for _y) and it is identical between the two
> >> versions. I have even written a timer and had it slightly offset the
> >> position every 5 seconds by adding .1 to x and then y as well as alternating
> >> back and forth between x and y to see if it ever corrected itself. No luck.
> >>
> >> The list is getting filled by dupicating a movieclip containing the text
> >> that1s getting blurred but it is positioning it vertically in a whole number
> >> increment.
> >>
> >> Its boggling my mind.. If anyone can figure this one out I will be very
> >> Impressed and happy!
> >>
> >> Thanks for looking,
> >>
> >> Tavis

> >
> > Hi. That's a nice looking site. Looks like you're a fan of
> > 2advanced.com :-] I can't figure out what's wrong with the text
> > because not all of it looks blurred, only some lines in that one part
> > look blurred. Have you tried reentering that text? Does it look the
> > same when you publish a preview? It almost looks like the text field
> > was resized after the text was entered, like static, but I don't think
> > that's it.
> > Did you make the mp3 player or did you get it from somewhere? That
> > is exactly what I am looking for!