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What i've got is five avi movies to be part of an interactive cd. i know director doesn't directly import the movies, but links to them, hence my problem. Even if i put them on a cd for the projector to run from, unless the playing computer has their cd drive designated E, it can't find the path and work. Is there a way to import the movies directly into the project in such a way they'd be always accessible on the cd...like bitmaps are for example? A way to cirvent the pathing the director does to search out the ...

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    Default movies in director

    What i've got is five avi movies to be part of an interactive cd. i know director doesn't directly import the movies, but links to them, hence my problem. Even if i put them on a cd for the projector to run from, unless the playing computer has their cd drive designated E, it can't find the path and work.

    Is there a way to import the movies directly into the project in such a way they'd be always accessible on the cd...like bitmaps are for example? A way to cirvent the pathing the director does to search out the avi?

    thanks
    Denise


    skydiver119 webforumsuser@macromedia.com Guest

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    Default Re: movies in director

    Search the NG archives at:
    [url]http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=macromedia[/url]

    You can also find information by searching the MM tech notes.

    Everything in Director is relative including the paths to external
    files...it does not hard code the location of a video file. If you create a
    folder structure in developement and follow that structure through delivery
    you will not have any problems.

    hth,
    doug
    "skydiver119" <webforumsusermacromedia.com> wrote in message
    news:bg4318$eij$1forums.macromedia.com...
    > What i've got is five avi movies to be part of an interactive cd. i know
    director doesn't directly import the movies, but links to them, hence my
    problem. Even if i put them on a cd for the projector to run from, unless
    the playing computer has their cd drive designated E, it can't find the path
    and work.
    >
    > Is there a way to import the movies directly into the project in such a
    way they'd be always accessible on the cd...like bitmaps are for example? A
    way to cirvent the pathing the director does to search out the avi?
    >
    > thanks
    > Denise
    >
    >

    Doug Golenski Guest

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    Default Re: movies in director

    I guess i'm not getting it. What my boss wants is an interactive cd where he just pops it into a computer, any computer and it plays. I've been able to put the avi's onto a cd and link to them off the cd, the problem is unless every single computer he uses has their cd drive designated as E, it can't find it. He's also not too fond of the fact that it's y, wants full screen video but since it plays off CD, it's going to be y, cd drives only do so much. I've tried to tell him to put it on the harddrive and play it from there, but that is beyond him.

    I tried putting the avi's into a folder named like the book told me, to the dswmedia, but it still didn't find them once i take the cd off my computer and try to play it on another one



    skydiver119 webforumsuser@macromedia.com Guest

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    Default Re: movies in director

    Doug
    Everything in Director is relative including the paths to external
    files...it does not hard code the location of a video file. If you create a
    folder structure in developement and follow that structure through delivery
    you will not have any problems.


    hmm, Doug ... I'm not too sure how you make this claim considering the number of posts and solutions to the contrary where linked media is concerned - I'm even pretty sure you were involved in some of the solutions discussed. Maybe I'm misreading what you are stating?




    skydiver119

    Linked Media
    You have run into the wall that many people run into when first working with linked media. It has nothing to do with videos per se, but all linked media. Have no fear, this "wall" is very small and easy to cirvent.

    Long story short: Unless you take a step or two to tell Director to look elsewhere, it will always look for the file path that it was originally assigned ... regardless of whether or not you keep the same directory structure or not.

    This topic is discussed almost 3 times a week on these forums and everyone I have pointed in the right direction has everything work out.

    You can [url]http://webforums.macromedia.com/director/messageview.cfm?catid=186&threadid=645786&highligh t_key=y&keyword1=relative&keyword2=path[/url] I used a little while back to someone else ... it applies to your situation too.

    y playback from CD
    While your boss is like most and wants everything to run from the CD, the reality is that there are very few multimedia based products today that run properly from CD (I don't think I've even seen a game that doesn't install everything to HD anymore so it plays properly! Some as big as 2GIG) ... changes to the CD drive technologies disallow many new drives from running constantly (environmental/power thing), which is what is required for smooth playback (amongst other things).

    BUT, that is not to say it isn't possible. Many factors will influence how a video plays back. CD drive speed, green technologies, frame rates, codecs, system memory, system processor, processor cache, software available, video refresh rates, video drivers, sound drivers, video memory, DirectX versions, video dimensions, etc, etc, etc.

    The combinations, unlike a few years ago, is endless which is why many developers have simply said - "it'll run from your CD, but you should really use your HD for better performance".

    The things you primarily do have control over are frame rates and codecs. Full Screen video will rarely play smoothly except on a high end computer (even from HD). Most FS videos you see are not actually full screen! They are smaller versions (320x240 or 640x480) stretched out to fill the screen. Depending on the resolution you started with, and the end user's resolution, this can make the video appear very blotchy and unviewable.

    codecs
    I would suggest that AVI is not the way to go if you want decent FS video playback. Most of the streaming technologies today allow very good compression coupled with lower resolution loss when expanded to full screen. You can use QT (streaming MP4), WMV (Video 8), or RM (Helix).

    QT & RM playback comes included in MX. QT is the one everyone is familiar with. To use WMV you will need something like the streaming media Xtra from Tabuleiro. ([url]http://xtras.tabuleiro.com/products/streaming/index.tdb[/url])

    In each case you need to ensure the proper player is installed:
    - QuickTime 6+ if using MP4
    - RealOne Player if using Helix
    - Windows Media Player 8 or 9 if using Video 8 WMV

    Alternatively, you could use AVI with a codec like DivX or XviD, but that comes with its own set of quirks and issues.



    frame rates
    Unless you are in Europe and using PAL, NTSC frame rates work best in 15 frame increments. 30fps is usually attempted for HD playback, 15 fps for CD. There will be a slight difference, but nothing that is super noticeable.




    [*** I apologize for the extremely lengthy reply ***]


    ============================
    Glen Palmer
    SafariTECH
    Cold Fusion Specialist
    [url]www.safaritech.com[/url]
    ============================
    SafariTECH Guest

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    Default Re: movies in director

    Hey Glenn,
    No, I don't think you are misreading...I think I've been pretty consistent
    in my responses especially where linked video is concerned. I always set up
    my folder structure for developement so that it is exactly the same as it
    will be when I burn the CD. I have never had any problem with Director
    finding any linked file; video, audio, .docs and even PDFs. The only
    problems I have seen is when people don't keep their external files in the
    same relative position to their projector files. When video is imported
    Director shows a hard path in the property inspector, but it keeps track of
    the video relative to the dir file in which the video is imported. The only
    time they (MM) has ed this up was in Director 6...then I had to write a
    script to change all of the hard coded paths to relative paths. When they
    released Director 6.5 they had it all back working again and I haven't seen
    it change for 7, 8 or 8.5. I haven't made the upgrade to MX yet because I
    don't need the OS X support and I don't think MX is a very compelling
    upgrade. So I'll keep mum about MX.

    peace.
    Doug
    "SafariTECH" <contactsafaritech.com> wrote in message
    news:bg5um4$gmi$1forums.macromedia.com...
    > Doug
    > Everything in Director is relative including the paths to external
    > files...it does not hard code the location of a video file. If you create
    a
    > folder structure in developement and follow that structure through
    delivery
    > you will not have any problems.
    >
    >
    > hmm, Doug ... I'm not too sure how you make this claim considering the
    number of posts and solutions to the contrary where linked media is
    concerned - I'm even pretty sure you were involved in some of the solutions
    discussed. Maybe I'm misreading what you are stating?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > skydiver119
    >
    > Linked Media
    > You have run into the wall that many people run into when first working
    with linked media. It has nothing to do with videos per se, but all linked
    media. Have no fear, this "wall" is very small and easy to cirvent.
    >
    > Long story short: Unless you take a step or two to tell Director to look
    elsewhere, it will always look for the file path that it was originally
    assigned ... regardless of whether or not you keep the same directory
    structure or not.
    >
    > This topic is discussed almost 3 times a week on these forums and everyone
    I have pointed in the right direction has everything work out.
    >
    > You can
    [url]http://webforums.macromedia.com/director/messageview.cfm?catid=186&threadid=645786&highligh t_key=y&keyword1=relative&keyword2=path[/url] I
    used a little while back to someone else ... it applies to your situation
    too.
    >
    > y playback from CD
    > While your boss is like most and wants everything to run from the CD, the
    reality is that there are very few multimedia based products today that run
    properly from CD (I don't think I've even seen a game that doesn't install
    everything to HD anymore so it plays properly! Some as big as 2GIG) ...
    changes to the CD drive technologies disallow many new drives from running
    constantly (environmental/power thing), which is what is required for smooth
    playback (amongst other things).
    >
    > BUT, that is not to say it isn't possible. Many factors will influence how
    a video plays back. CD drive speed, green technologies, frame rates, codecs,
    system memory, system processor, processor cache, software available, video
    refresh rates, video drivers, sound drivers, video memory, DirectX versions,
    video dimensions, etc, etc, etc.
    >
    > The combinations, unlike a few years ago, is endless which is why many
    developers have simply said - "it'll run from your CD, but you should really
    use your HD for better performance".
    >
    > The things you primarily do have control over are frame rates and codecs.
    Full Screen video will rarely play smoothly except on a high end computer
    (even from HD). Most FS videos you see are not actually full screen! They
    are smaller versions (320x240 or 640x480) stretched out to fill the screen.
    Depending on the resolution you started with, and the end user's resolution,
    this can make the video appear very blotchy and unviewable.
    >
    > codecs
    > I would suggest that AVI is not the way to go if you want decent FS video
    playback. Most of the streaming technologies today allow very good
    compression coupled with lower resolution loss when expanded to full screen.
    You can use QT (streaming MP4), WMV (Video 8), or RM (Helix).
    >
    > QT & RM playback comes included in MX. QT is the one everyone is familiar
    with. To use WMV you will need something like the streaming media Xtra from
    Tabuleiro. ([url]http://xtras.tabuleiro.com/products/streaming/index.tdb[/url])
    >
    > In each case you need to ensure the proper player is installed:
    > - QuickTime 6+ if using MP4
    > - RealOne Player if using Helix
    > - Windows Media Player 8 or 9 if using Video 8 WMV
    >
    > Alternatively, you could use AVI with a codec like DivX or XviD, but that
    comes with its own set of quirks and issues.
    >
    >
    >
    > frame rates
    > Unless you are in Europe and using PAL, NTSC frame rates work best in 15
    frame increments. 30fps is usually attempted for HD playback, 15 fps for CD.
    There will be a slight difference, but nothing that is super noticeable.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > [*** I apologize for the extremely lengthy reply ***]
    >
    >
    > ============================
    > Glen Palmer
    > SafariTECH
    > Cold Fusion Specialist
    > [url]www.safaritech.com[/url]
    > ============================

    Doug Golenski Guest

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    Default Re: movies in director

    Look up "the moviepath"
    The moviepath is simply a string that gives you the path to your main
    director file. If you put your movie (for example, a file called
    "movie1.avi"), then the full path to your movie would be:

    filename = the moviepath & "movies\movie1.avi"

    The other thing you can do is to add the subdirectory "movies" to your
    searchpath.

    HTH,
    Judy


    JPrice Guest

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    Default Re: movies in director

    JPrice
    I believe I already said that and it was in the post I linked to my last one. (but you are correct)

    skydiver119
    you will get it eventually ... once you do it once or twice it will all make sense
    people here will continue to help - don't give up.

    Doug
    Are you by chance on Mac? (I'm on PC) ... I always retain my structures when creating CDs and it will always ask for the external file once moved to CD and played on another system. Maybe MAC is different because PC uses drive letters and Mac doesn't? No matter what (from version 7+) I've always had to add to the searchPaths or run a dynamic filename change.





    ============================
    Glen Palmer
    SafariTECH
    Cold Fusion Specialist
    [url]www.safaritech.com[/url]
    ============================
    SafariTECH Guest

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    Default Re: movies in director

    This is being done on a pc running XP (unfortunately)

    I have a total of 5 movies, all of which run into each other (the ending of #1 goes to #2, etc)

    Right now the info is stored on my c drive (hard drive) in a folder called bosscd, then the movies are in a folder inside the 'bosscd' called dswmedia

    if i do this for each of the 5 movies it will find the movies when i play it on another computer?

    -- Welcome to Director --
    put the movie path
    -- "Intro2.dir" <Void>
    -- "C:\bosscd\dswmedia\intro2.dir\"
    put the movieName
    -- "Intro2.dir"
    put the moviePath & the movieName
    -- "C:\bosscd\Intro2.dir"


    That's what i need to do. I tried putting everything on a cd and linking back to it, but of course, not everyone has E as their cd drive. What I need to do is tell director, no matter what it's called, go looking for this folder and play this movie



    skydiver119 webforumsuser@macromedia.com Guest

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    Default Re: movies in director

    Umm, I thought we were discussing linked VIDEO files, not director files?

    There is a bit of terminology we need to clarify first:

    In Director a "movie" is a director file (DIR, DXR, etc)

    A digital video file (i.e. AVI, MOV, etc) is referred to as a "video".

    Assuming we are still talking about AVI files here, can you provide me with the member names/numbers for each of your video members? and are you actually using "dswmedia" to store those AVI files in ??

    I'll post a quick code for you to use if you can do that.

    PS: Will this only be run on PC once published? or does it need to be cross platform?



    ============================
    Glen Palmer
    SafariTECH
    Cold Fusion Specialist
    [url]www.safaritech.com[/url]
    ============================
    SafariTECH Guest

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    Default Re: movies in director

    I"m meaning movies, as in avi's

    They're called
    intro1.avi
    mm.avi
    photo1.avi
    print.avi
    facman1.avi

    I was using a folder called dswmedia because there was something in the book about it and using it, i can change it if need be.

    as to platforms, pretty much everyone in the agency uses windows. My boss hasn't said and i'm perfectly happy to have it run on windows only. He will only notice or care if he tries to pass it out and they can't play it


    skydiver119 webforumsuser@macromedia.com Guest

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    Default Re: movies in director

    Hey Glen,
    No, I do all my developement on the PC and then I test everything on a Mac.
    I've got both but develop on a PC and then test and burn on the Mac.

    peace,
    Doug
    "SafariTECH" <contactsafaritech.com> wrote in message
    news:bg8pn5$nr8$1forums.macromedia.com...
    > JPrice
    > I believe I already said that and it was in the post I linked to my last
    one. (but you are correct)
    >
    > skydiver119
    > you will get it eventually ... once you do it once or twice it will all
    make sense
    > people here will continue to help - don't give up.
    >
    > Doug
    > Are you by chance on Mac? (I'm on PC) ... I always retain my structures
    when creating CDs and it will always ask for the external file once moved to
    CD and played on another system. Maybe MAC is different because PC uses
    drive letters and Mac doesn't? No matter what (from version 7+) I've always
    had to add to the searchPaths or run a dynamic filename change.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ============================
    > Glen Palmer
    > SafariTECH
    > Cold Fusion Specialist
    > [url]www.safaritech.com[/url]
    > ============================

    Doug Golenski Guest

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