moving to Dapper6.04 from Breeze5.10.... any opinions?

[Fastfla \(flapane\)]

I upgraded my o.s and it seems to be more stable, the only problem is with
firefox1.5 (i had 1.0.7), which crashes 1/3 times.
Anyway i still have the issue with 3d acceleration with my pci express ati
card (8.22.5 driver rel.). I heard that 3d support isn't available yet for
pci-ex video card but I don't know if it's true....
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[Jacob Tranholm]

Fastfla (flapane) skrev:

> I upgraded my o.s and it seems to be more stable, the only problem is with
> firefox1.5 (i had 1.0.7), which crashes 1/3 times.
> Anyway i still have the issue with 3d acceleration with my pci express ati
> card (8.22.5 driver rel.). I heard that 3d support isn't available yet for
> pci-ex video card but I don't know if it's true....

I have also been using Dapper for a couple of weeks. But there still is
a few minor errors needing finetuning, so I will not exactly call it
"more stable" than Breezy.

For your firefox problems there is a peculiar solution, where you have
to install another theme. I installed the Noia 2.0 (eXtreme)
<https://addons.mozilla.org/themes/moreinfo.php?id=72&application=firefox>
theme and my firefox 1.5.0.1 is working perfectly at the moment.

--
Best regards Jacob Tranholm <http://jtranholm.dk/>
Favourite quote: "Observation statements and statements of experimental
results are always interpretations of the facts observed." [Karl R. Popper]

[Margaret Wilson]

Fastfla (flapane) wrote:

> I upgraded my o.s and it seems to be more stable, the only problem is with
> firefox1.5 (i had 1.0.7), which crashes 1/3 times.
> Anyway i still have the issue with 3d acceleration with my pci express ati
> card (8.22.5 driver rel.). I heard that 3d support isn't available yet for
> pci-ex video card but I don't know if it's true....

How do I get dapper? On the download sites, all I see is breezy....

Regards,

Margaret

[Margaret Wilson]

Margaret Wilson wrote:

> How do I get dapper? On the download sites, all I see is breezy....

Oh don't mind me, I just found it. :-)

Regards,

Margaret

[Margaret Wilson]

Jacob Tranholm wrote:

> Fastfla (flapane) skrev:

>> I upgraded my o.s and it seems to be more stable, the only problem is
>> with firefox1.5 (i had 1.0.7), which crashes 1/3 times.
>> Anyway i still have the issue with 3d acceleration with my pci express
>> ati card (8.22.5 driver rel.). I heard that 3d support isn't available
>> yet for pci-ex video card but I don't know if it's true....

>
> I have also been using Dapper for a couple of weeks. But there still is
> a few minor errors needing finetuning, so I will not exactly call it
> "more stable" than Breezy.
>
> For your firefox problems there is a peculiar solution, where you have
> to install another theme. I installed the Noia 2.0 (eXtreme)
> <https://addons.mozilla.org/themes/moreinfo.php?id=72&application=firefox>
> theme and my firefox 1.5.0.1 is working perfectly at the moment.

I realize Dapper has not been released yet. But ... I have spent this
entire afternoon and evening trying to get it running on a machine that
ran Breezy just fine. After finally getting it installed (first three
attempts, install just mysteriously died or failed installing packages),
it says it wants to do 234 updates. So I let it do the updates. It
downloads, installs, then tells me that quite a list had errors and will
not be updated. The last one on the list is something to do with the
Gnome desktop. (Didn't write it down.) The machine wants to restart at
this point, so I let it do so, I see the Ubuntu graphical login screen
and log in. At that point, I get a brown background with a stuck mouse,
and the machine just sits. Being a relatively new Linux user, all I
know to do at this point is to reinstall. So I did. I ran through the
update procedure, it got farther this time, but I still have quite a few
errors, the last one, of course, has to do with the graphical interface.
The machine wants to restart. But I have not done so, because I know
where it will end up (brown screen with stuck mouse). I'm hoping
someone has experienced this and knows what to do. Otherwise, I guess I
have to put Dapper away till its final release. Help please????

BTW, I have tried restarting from the Dapper CD and doing a recovery,
but it can't mount the partition. So please don't suggest that one. :-)

Regards,

Margaret

[Jacob Tranholm]

Margaret Wilson wrote:

>
> I realize Dapper has not been released yet. But ... I have spent this
> entire afternoon and evening trying to get it running on a machine that
> ran Breezy just fine. After finally getting it installed (first three
> attempts, install just mysteriously died or failed installing packages),
> it says it wants to do 234 updates. So I let it do the updates. It
> downloads, installs, then tells me that quite a list had errors and will
> not be updated. The last one on the list is something to do with the
> Gnome desktop. (Didn't write it down.) The machine wants to restart at
> this point, so I let it do so, I see the Ubuntu graphical login screen
> and log in. At that point, I get a brown background with a stuck mouse,
> and the machine just sits. Being a relatively new Linux user, all I
> know to do at this point is to reinstall. So I did. I ran through the
> update procedure, it got farther this time, but I still have quite a few
> errors, the last one, of course, has to do with the graphical interface.
> The machine wants to restart. But I have not done so, because I know
> where it will end up (brown screen with stuck mouse). I'm hoping
> someone has experienced this and knows what to do. Otherwise, I guess I
> have to put Dapper away till its final release. Help please????
>
> BTW, I have tried restarting from the Dapper CD and doing a recovery,
> but it can't mount the partition. So please don't suggest that one. :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Margaret

Sorry, I don't know how to help you.

I installed my Dapper the boring way, I simply changed my
/etc/apt/sources.list and made a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get
-y dist-upgrade'. I had to manually uninstall a few packages, but it
worked... There has been some major changes where for instance 'hotplug'
has been replaced by a newer version of 'udev'. And there is quite a lot
of differences in the configuration of the two versions.

--
Best regards Jacob Tranholm <http://jtranholm.dk/>
Favourite quote: "Observation statements and statements of experimental
results are always interpretations of the facts observed." [Karl R. Popper]

[Margaret Wilson]

Jacob Tranholm wrote:

> Sorry, I don't know how to help you.
>
> I installed my Dapper the boring way, I simply changed my
> /etc/apt/sources.list and made a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get
> -y dist-upgrade'. I had to manually uninstall a few packages, but it
> worked... There has been some major changes where for instance 'hotplug'
> has been replaced by a newer version of 'udev'. And there is quite a lot
> of differences in the configuration of the two versions.

Oh, you have no idea just how helpful you were!! I ran those two
commands you noted above. Each installed lots of apps and exited
without complaint. I held my breath and rebooted, and voila, I have a
working system. Unfortunately I'm unable to install the nVidia graphics
driver. In Breezy, I just ran the Synaptic package manager, installed
nvidia-glx then ran the command "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and
restarted Gnome. I installed nvidia-glx OK, but when I enter the above
command, I get:

Error: /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /var/lib xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum are
missing from your system. Please make sure your xserver package is
installed correctly.

The first file is there and looks like it has the right stuff for my
Nvidia graphics card. However, the folder /var/lib/xfree86 is missing
entirely. Ideas on this one?

Thanks and Regards,

Margaret

[Margaret Wilson]

Margaret Wilson wrote:

> Unfortunately I'm unable to install the nVidia graphics
> driver. In Breezy, I just ran the Synaptic package manager, installed
> nvidia-glx then ran the command "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and
> restarted Gnome. I installed nvidia-glx OK, but when I enter the above
> command, I get:
>
> Error: /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /var/lib xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum are
> missing from your system. Please make sure your xserver package is
> installed correctly.
>
> The first file is there and looks like it has the right stuff for my
> Nvidia graphics card. However, the folder /var/lib/xfree86 is missing
> entirely. Ideas on this one?

Fixed it. Although there's no /var/lib/xfree86 directory, there's a
/var/lib/x11 directory that has the missing file. So I created the dir
/var/lib/xfree86, copied the files from /var/lib/x11, ran
"nvidia-glx-config enable", restarted, and now the driver's working
fine. Yippee. Looks like I have a working Dapper system now.

Thanks so much!

Margaret

[Fastfla \(flapane\)]

"Jacob Tranholm" <jacob_tranholm@hotmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> I have also been using Dapper for a couple of weeks. But there still is a
> few minor errors needing finetuning, so I will not exactly call it "more
> stable" than Breezy.
>
> For your firefox problems there is a peculiar solution, where you have to
> install another theme. I installed the Noia 2.0 (eXtreme)
> <https://addons.mozilla.org/themes/moreinfo.php?id=72&application=firefox>
> theme and my firefox 1.5.0.1 is working perfectly at the moment.
>

Probably they're tuning it into these days, 'cause I downloaded 60mb of
updates yesterday. Anyway I will try your tip about firefox, many thanks
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Flavio
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