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The first time the fox has come around in months, and it's in the field hunting mice and doing other fox-like activities. Maybe I can settle for the 600mm f/4 IS and a 2x teleconverter....

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    The first time the fox has come around in months, and it's in the field
    hunting mice and doing other fox-like activities.

    Maybe I can settle for the 600mm f/4 IS and a 2x teleconverter.
    Brian Guest

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    "Brian C. Baird" <no> wrote in message
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    If I knew fox shooting paid so well enough to justify either of those... :-)



    Dave Guest

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    Brian C. Baird wrote:
     

    You probably should, since the EF 1200/5.6 is reported to be a
    not-so-hot piece of glass anyways. [Sounds of frantic googling.]

    http://groups.google.ca/groups?q=canon+EF+1200/5.6+sharpness&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=33D1388E.B6E 22C4B%40perscom.nl&rnum=1

    eawckyegcy@yahoo.com Guest

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    com wrote:
     
    >
    >
    > You probably should, since the EF 1200/5.6 is reported to be a
    > not-so-hot piece of glass anyways. [Sounds of frantic googling.]
    >
    > http://groups.google.ca/groups?q=canon+EF+1200/5.6+sharpness&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=33D1388E.B6E 22C4B%40perscom.nl&rnum=1[/ref]

    Regardless of that result (which is not at all bad) it is much better
    than a 600 f/4 would get with a 2X TC on it...and at that it would be an
    f/8, so wouldn't see peak sharpness until about f/16...

    That lens was going last year 2004 for about US$118K.

    If you buy three, you get a free roll of film.

    Cheers,
    Alan.

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    Alan Guest

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    On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:26:11 GMT, Brian C. Baird <no>
    wrote:
     

    Sounds like you need a good jumper and pack of hounds...


    ************************************************** ******

    "To sum up, one does not hunt in order to kill;
    on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted."

    "The Ethics of Hunting" from
    "Meditations on Hunting"
    by Josť Ortega y Gasset
    John Guest

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    ONLY $118,000 ... what kind of delivery?

    [S-CNR]




    "Alan Browne" <ca> wrote in message
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    RSD99 Guest

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    RSD99 wrote: 

    Buyer pays as always. Insurance mmight be a good consideration.

    Please don't top post.

    Cheers,
    Alan



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    Alan Guest

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    In article <VqnYd.10371$sonic.net>,
    com says... 
    >
    > If I knew fox shooting paid so well enough to justify either of those... :-)[/ref]

    It doesn't. I just want pictures.

    This hobby is worse than heroin when it comes to big glass.
    Brian Guest

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    In article <d0t5s3$j3t$gazeta.pl>,
    ca says... 

    For that price, I should get an extra lens cap, too.
    Brian Guest

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    "Brian C. Baird" <no> wrote in message
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    >
    > For that price, I should get an extra lens cap, too.[/ref]

    Kind of makes the $22K Hasselblad wants for the H1D almost seem appropriate,
    doesn't it?

    No. It's still too damn much!

    Man, who affords these prices?

    Walt


    Walt Guest

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    On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:26:11 GMT, Brian C. Baird <no>
    wrote:
     

    A Meade or Celestron 8" SCT telescope coupled to a reducer/corrector
    (field flattener) will give you f6.3 at 1260mm. You can buy them
    mounted or optical tube assembly only, starting at about $800.00
    and $140.00 for the reducer corrector. The Celestrons (some of them)
    are also equipped with the "Fastar" system for speeds around f2
    at 400mm.

    Or, if you want to go mad, at $17,000 you can buy a 671mm lens at
    f2.2. from Meade.

    www.meade.com
    www.celestron.com


    RichA Guest

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    In article <com>, net
    says... 

    Scrooge McDuck?
    Brian Guest

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    In article <com>,
    Walt Hanks <net> wrote: 
    >>
    >> For that price, I should get an extra lens cap, too.[/ref]
    >
    >Kind of makes the $22K Hasselblad wants for the H1D almost seem appropriate,
    >doesn't it?
    >
    >No. It's still too damn much!
    >
    >Man, who affords these prices?[/ref]

    Same people who buy used cars at seven-figure prices, I guess.

    John Guest

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    Hey, you can build a blind for a few bucks. Forget the 1200mm.


    "RichA" <com> wrote in message
    news:com... 
    >
    > A Meade or Celestron 8" SCT telescope coupled to a reducer/corrector
    > (field flattener) will give you f6.3 at 1260mm. You can buy them
    > mounted or optical tube assembly only, starting at about $800.00
    > and $140.00 for the reducer corrector. The Celestrons (some of them)
    > are also equipped with the "Fastar" system for speeds around f2
    > at 400mm.
    >
    > Or, if you want to go mad, at $17,000 you can buy a 671mm lens at
    > f2.2. from Meade.
    >
    > www.meade.com
    > www.celestron.com
    >
    >[/ref]


    IMKen Guest

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    On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 04:59:48 GMT, "IMKen" <rr.com> wrote:
     

    From those companies you can also get a mirror-lens (SCT)
    scope that is 3900mm f.l. at f10 or drop that (using
    a reducer/compressor) to 2450mm at f6.3. The lens itself
    is 14" across.
    Problem with large, fast lenses is they are susceptable to
    "seeing" heat waves. Much as a naked eye can see ripples
    above a BBQ, the larger the diameter of the lens, the greater
    it's ability to see heat waves. Air looks steady and clear
    to the naked eye becomes wavering and shimmering through a
    large lens. On a hot day, or in cases where you are shooting
    over things that radiate heat (buildings, etc) large lenses
    can become nearly useless.
    -Rich
    RichA Guest

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    <top-posting corrected>
    "IMKen" <rr.com> wrote in message
    news:8HuYd.36320$socal.rr.com... [/ref][/ref]

    <snip>
     

    Yes, that works, as long as he's willing to sit in the blind for a few
    months waiting for the fox to arrive.

    Austin
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    AustinMN Guest

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    In message <com>,
    "AustinMN" <net> wrote:
     

    I lost a potential clear fox shot last year, not because of the length
    of the lens (it almost filled the frame with a 300mm lens), but because
    my 10D had gone to sleep, and took too long to wake up. It paused for
    about 2 second out in the open grass, and then made off like a bullet.
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    Walt Hanks wrote:
     

    Mostly businesses that pass the cost on to the customer.

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    Alan Guest

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    AustinMN wrote:
     

    It's no different with a 1200mm. It's not miraculous, it does not cause
    hitherto unseen animals to magically appear. Nature photographers can
    spend days at a site to get a few good shots of their quarry ever with a
    1200. (Pretty rare, 300, 400, 500 and 600mm, occasionally with TC's is
    more the norm).

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    Alan Guest

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    In article <com>, net
    says... 

    I've already got this $250,000 blind... it's called my house.
    Brian Guest

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