Nested Style possibility?

[Nina_Storm@adobeforums.com]

Is it possible to make a Nested Style which changes my font whenever a
digit is encountered from "The Sans Plain" to "The Sans Caps"?

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Regards Nina Storm

[Dave_Saunders@adobeforums.com]

Yes. Make a character style for the digit. Set the other font in the paragraph style and then use two (or more) nested styles:

None up to 1 digit
NewStyle through 1 word

Or however long you want it to go -- if you want the second style to run to the end of the paragraph, then use "through 1 End Nested Style Character.

Dave

[Sandee_Cohen@adobeforums.com]

Dave,

It's a nice thought, but won't work completely well in the real world.

What if the "digit" is actually two digits? The nested style setting won't work then.

It would be better to do a Find/Change for any digit and then apply a character style.

[Dave_Saunders@adobeforums.com]

I don't care how long the "digit" is. It all depends on the nature of the paragraphs.

The way I have it set up, it'll run either to the end of the word (any number of digits) or the end of the paragraph. If you want to switch back after the "word" you'll need more nested styles.

Dave

[Gerald_Singelmann@adobeforums.com]

Yes it works perfectly well, although it is a pain to set up.
If exactly the digits are to be formatted you define a rule up to ^9 applying [none] and a second rule up to ^$ applying "cstyle ". That way the character directly after the digit can be anything, not only a space.
Repeat as many times as necessary, you can define 40 rules per paragraph.

Gerald

[Nina_Storm@adobeforums.com]

Thank you, it is a very important issue to us, as we use this in heavy
catalogues produced twice a year!

However I cannot make it function just now. I'll have to experiment a
bit. But very nice to know that it shoul be possible.

All digits have to be Caps not Plain, and the digits occur in different
lengths in no systematic way among text.

Gerald, what do you mean by "up to ^9" and "up to ^$" - just an example
of digits and characters?

I am so impressed of the help and knowledge in this forum.

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Regards Nina Storm

[Anne-Marie Concepcion]

Gerald's speaking Find/Change. ;-) Those are the wildcard codes you have to use to search for "any digit" (^9) and "any letter" (^$).

But in Nested Styles, you'd choose "Digit" or "Letter" from the dropdown menu for the stop character. You could enter those codes but ID converts them to the words Digit or Letter as soon as you tab out of the field.

I'm finding that the "up to 1 digit" works fine but the "up to 1 letter" does not. Using those results in no character styles being applied at all to the numbers. It should, I think, but I can't figure out why it won't.

However what does work is entering a string of characters for when you want the character style to stop being applied. I typically use " .,;:!?" for normal text flow. (space, period, comma, semicolon, colon, exclamation point and question mark). If your numbers are sometimes immediately followed by other characters you could add them too ... like @.

InDesign stops applying the character style as soon as it encounters any of the characters in the string (it's a "Boolean OR").

Also, to make a style apply to the end of the paragraph ... like you want No Style to apply to the end in this example ... I usually use "up to 1 Section Marker" (choosing Section Marker from the drop-down menu). Section Markers typically *never* appear in body text (where you're normally applying a paragraph style with nested elements), so they work.

Better than End Nested Style characters because sometimes you want to use them in the main text for what they're intended for ... to stop applying the nested style (like if you wanted a particular number not to get the character style applied).

AM

[Dave_Saunders@adobeforums.com]

Upi can use those codes in nested styles. You just have to remember them, though.

Dave

[Anne-Marie Concepcion]

Upi = "You" but fingers are one letter to the right?

Or are you talking to someone from Michigan's Upper Peninsula ...

;-)

[Dave_Saunders@adobeforums.com]

Ah, look what happens when I touch-type in a hurry!

Dave

[Gerald_Singelmann@adobeforums.com]

Gerald's speaking Find/Change. Those are the wildcard codes you have to
use to search for "any digit" (^9) and "any letter" (^$).




No, Gerald has a german InDesign and "Ziffer" and "Buchstaben" just wouldn't help, would they? No easy way of finding out what they are called in an english InDesign.
^9 and ^$ are international.
The joys of a global village ;)

Perhaps it should be clarified that "Letter" includes all characters from a to z including international letters like ä but no spaces and no symbols like §.
Anne-Marie's suggestion to just enter all characters that can come after a number is more work but also more precise.

Thanks
Gerald

[Anne-Marie Concepcion]

No, Gerald has a german InDesign and "Ziffer" and "Buchstaben" just wouldn't
help, would they?




LOL ... sorry about that!

But interesting to learn that they're called Ziffer and Buchstaben!

AM