Networking Windows XP Home Edition with Windows 2000 Professional

[Earl]

I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+) connected to
cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP Home
Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet cable.
Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless network card.

At this point, each computer can see the other one when
viewing "entire network". I have put them both in a
workgroup of the same name. I even made the SSID on the
router the same as the workgroup.

However, I can't access files on either computer. When I
try from laptop to desktop I get "There are currently no
logon servers available to service the logon request".
When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have password
for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the name of the
desktop computer. I think this issue can be resolved my
having the administrator at work create a password for
me.

I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.

[Ken Wickes [MSFT]]

Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so when you connect to the
desktop you will have to connect with a username of BASEMENT\username.

For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse and use a username of
LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account of your desktop account on
the laptop.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
news:02a601c344dd$61d92db0$3501280a@phx.gbl...

> I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+) connected to
> cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP Home
> Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet cable.
> Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless network card.
>
> At this point, each computer can see the other one when
> viewing "entire network". I have put them both in a
> workgroup of the same name. I even made the SSID on the
> router the same as the workgroup.
>
> However, I can't access files on either computer. When I
> try from laptop to desktop I get "There are currently no
> logon servers available to service the logon request".
> When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have password
> for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the name of the
> desktop computer. I think this issue can be resolved my
> having the administrator at work create a password for
> me.
>
> I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.

[Earl]

Ken,

Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm not sure
I know what you mean when you say connect to the desktop
with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean login
this way upon startup, because I don't get prompted for
username and password when trying to access BASEMENT
through explore - my network places - entire network -
microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT (with
double left click). I just get the error message. Maybe
I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?

The second paragraph of your response also throws me
off. When I put in my username and password (that I use
at work) the computer returns the desktop computer name
(BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my username
and asks for a new password.

You also mention desktop account. How do I know what
this is?

If this is too much for you to deal with, I will forward
your previous response to my IT guys, and we can likely
figure it out.

Thanks

>-----Original Message-----
>Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so when you

connect to the

>desktop you will have to connect with a username of

BASEMENT\username.

>
>For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse and use a

username of

>LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account of your

desktop account on

>the laptop.
>
>--
>
>Ken Wickes [MSFT]
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

confers no rights.

>
>
>"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
>news:02a601c344dd$61d92db0$3501280a@phx.gbl...

>> I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+) connected to
>> cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP Home
>> Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet cable.
>> Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless network

card.

>>
>> At this point, each computer can see the other one when
>> viewing "entire network". I have put them both in a
>> workgroup of the same name. I even made the SSID on

the

>> router the same as the workgroup.
>>
>> However, I can't access files on either computer.

When I

>> try from laptop to desktop I get "There are currently

no

>> logon servers available to service the logon request".
>> When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have password
>> for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the name of the
>> desktop computer. I think this issue can be resolved

my

>> having the administrator at work create a password for
>> me.
>>
>> I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.

>
>
>.
>

[Ken Wickes [MSFT]]

I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a server, you need to use
an account that makes sense to the server. In the absence of a domain, each
computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to each other.

So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any computer) and the account on
BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the account is BASEMENT\User1. So
use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select Connect as a different user,
and give it the full account name and password.

Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect to a remote server,
Windows will try logging onto a server account using the same short username
and password that you are logged on with. This works for many home users,
but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined to a domain and you are
probably logging in with a domain account.

Better?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
news:079b01c344e3$c2e13570$a101280a@phx.gbl...

> Ken,
>
> Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm not sure
> I know what you mean when you say connect to the desktop
> with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean login
> this way upon startup, because I don't get prompted for
> username and password when trying to access BASEMENT
> through explore - my network places - entire network -
> microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT (with
> double left click). I just get the error message. Maybe
> I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?
>
> The second paragraph of your response also throws me
> off. When I put in my username and password (that I use
> at work) the computer returns the desktop computer name
> (BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my username
> and asks for a new password.
>
> You also mention desktop account. How do I know what
> this is?
>
> If this is too much for you to deal with, I will forward
> your previous response to my IT guys, and we can likely
> figure it out.
>
> Thanks
>
>

> >-----Original Message-----
> >Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so when you

> connect to the

> >desktop you will have to connect with a username of

> BASEMENT\username.

> >
> >For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse and use a

> username of

> >LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account of your

> desktop account on

> >the laptop.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights.

> >
> >
> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >news:02a601c344dd$61d92db0$3501280a@phx.gbl...

> >> I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+) connected to
> >> cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP Home
> >> Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet cable.
> >> Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless network

> card.

> >>
> >> At this point, each computer can see the other one when
> >> viewing "entire network". I have put them both in a
> >> workgroup of the same name. I even made the SSID on

> the

> >> router the same as the workgroup.
> >>
> >> However, I can't access files on either computer.

> When I

> >> try from laptop to desktop I get "There are currently

> no

> >> logon servers available to service the logon request".
> >> When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have password
> >> for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the name of the
> >> desktop computer. I think this issue can be resolved

> my

> >> having the administrator at work create a password for
> >> me.
> >>
> >> I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.

> >
> >
> >.
> >

[matthew]

Earl you are doing better than me... i ahve the same
wireless router, a desktop running XPhome, laptop running
XPpro.. and i cant even get them to see eachother.

which did you setup first, the laptop, or desktop? did
you use the wizard?

all i want to do is share one folder, so i can eliminate
using my usb drive pen.

thanks for your help

>-----Original Message-----
>I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+) connected to
>cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP Home
>Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet cable.
>Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless network card.
>
>At this point, each computer can see the other one when
>viewing "entire network". I have put them both in a
>workgroup of the same name. I even made the SSID on the
>router the same as the workgroup.
>
>However, I can't access files on either computer. When

I

>try from laptop to desktop I get "There are currently no
>logon servers available to service the logon request".
>When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have password
>for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the name of the
>desktop computer. I think this issue can be resolved my
>having the administrator at work create a password for
>me.
>
>I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.
>.
>

[earl]

Ken,

Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to connect
as a different user through the Map Network Drive wizard
with no luck. Here's what I did:

1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
lower case).

2. Went to laptop and connected as a different user (I
tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
basement\earl).

3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I browse
out to Basement.

4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG workgroup and
nothing happens.

5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm back
to "There are currently no logon servers available to
service the logon request".

This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
router would it? I don't think so since the computers
can see each other.

Also, since the computers are both in the same workgroup
(HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?

I do appreciate all your help. If this thread reveals
any relevant info please get back to me, if not thanks
again.

>-----Original Message-----
>I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a

server, you need to use

>an account that makes sense to the server. In the

absence of a domain, each

>computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to each

other.

>
>So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any

computer) and the account on

>BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the account is

BASEMENT\User1. So

>use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select Connect as

a different user,

>and give it the full account name and password.
>
>Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect to a

remote server,

>Windows will try logging onto a server account using the

same short username

>and password that you are logged on with. This works

for many home users,

>but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined to a

domain and you are

>probably logging in with a domain account.
>
>Better?
>
>--
>
>Ken Wickes [MSFT]
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

confers no rights.

>
>
>"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
>news:079b01c344e3$c2e13570$a101280a@phx.gbl...

>> Ken,
>>
>> Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm not

sure

>> I know what you mean when you say connect to the

desktop

>> with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean

login

>> this way upon startup, because I don't get prompted for
>> username and password when trying to access BASEMENT
>> through explore - my network places - entire network -
>> microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT (with
>> double left click). I just get the error message.

Maybe

>> I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?
>>
>> The second paragraph of your response also throws me
>> off. When I put in my username and password (that I

use

>> at work) the computer returns the desktop computer name
>> (BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my

username

>> and asks for a new password.
>>
>> You also mention desktop account. How do I know what
>> this is?
>>
>> If this is too much for you to deal with, I will

forward

>> your previous response to my IT guys, and we can likely
>> figure it out.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>

>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so when you

>> connect to the

>> >desktop you will have to connect with a username of

>> BASEMENT\username.

>> >
>> >For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse and use

a

>> username of

>> >LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account of your

>> desktop account on

>> >the laptop.
>> >
>> >--
>> >
>> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
>> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

and

>> confers no rights.

>> >
>> >
>> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
>> >news:02a601c344dd$61d92db0$3501280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+) connected

to

>> >> cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP Home
>> >> Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet

cable.

>> >> Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless network

>> card.

>> >>
>> >> At this point, each computer can see the other one

when

>> >> viewing "entire network". I have put them both in a
>> >> workgroup of the same name. I even made the SSID on

>> the

>> >> router the same as the workgroup.
>> >>
>> >> However, I can't access files on either computer.

>> When I

>> >> try from laptop to desktop I get "There are

currently

>> no

>> >> logon servers available to service the logon

request".

>> >> When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have

password

>> >> for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the name of

the

>> >> desktop computer. I think this issue can be

resolved

>> my

>> >> having the administrator at work create a password

for

>> >> me.
>> >>
>> >> I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
>.
>

[sbarraza]

I am stuck on the same problem with my two PC's please let
me know if you find anything out.

sbarraza

>-----Original Message-----
>I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+) connected to
>cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP Home
>Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet cable.
>Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless network card.
>
>At this point, each computer can see the other one when
>viewing "entire network". I have put them both in a
>workgroup of the same name. I even made the SSID on the
>router the same as the workgroup.
>
>However, I can't access files on either computer. When I
>try from laptop to desktop I get "There are currently no
>logon servers available to service the logon request".
>When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have password
>for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the name of the
>desktop computer. I think this issue can be resolved my
>having the administrator at work create a password for
>me.
>
>I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.
>.
>

[Ken Wickes [MSFT]]

The net use trick was mostly to show that it does work. Here's what you can
do.

On the laptop create an account that uses the same username and password as
you use when you log into BASEMENT. That should allow you to access the
laptop from the desktop.

You don't mention what OS the laptop runs. If it is XP Pro, visit the User
Account control panel and go to the advanced tab. It will allow you to
store names and passwords for different servers. Use the name and password
that worked for NET USE.

Are you referring to just sharing the programs files or accessing the
Windows desktop of the desktop machine? If the latter, you could consider
upgrading to XP Pro which has Remote Desktop. Otherwise there are 3-rd
party products like PCAnywhere, but I have never used any of them. Maybe
others here have some advice.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
news:861001c34544$77a43a10$a401280a@phx.gbl...

> Ken,
>
> It worked and I mapped the drive I wanted. Will I have
> to authenticate through DOS evertime?
>
> I also got the printer to work.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> This may sound like too much, but I would really like to
> be able to run apps off the desktop from the laptop when
> I'm home. Can I achieve this with PC Anywhere, VPN, or
> something else.
>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
> Earl

> >-----Original Message-----
> >Try this, go to the laptop, open a command window and

> type:

> >
> >net use \\basement /user:basement\Earl *
> >explorer \\basement
> >
> >It should prompt your for Earl's password after the net

> use. Does this

> >work?
> >
> >The workgroup name is only important for browsing and

> has no role in

> >authentication.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights.

> >
> >
> >"earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >news:079901c344f1$2d705710$a301280a@phx.gbl...

> >> Ken,
> >>
> >> Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to connect
> >> as a different user through the Map Network Drive

> wizard

> >> with no luck. Here's what I did:
> >>
> >> 1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
> >> lower case).
> >>
> >> 2. Went to laptop and connected as a different user (I
> >> tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
> >> basement\earl).
> >>
> >> 3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I browse
> >> out to Basement.
> >>
> >> 4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG workgroup

> and

> >> nothing happens.
> >>
> >> 5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm

> back

> >> to "There are currently no logon servers available to
> >> service the logon request".
> >>
> >> This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
> >> router would it? I don't think so since the computers
> >> can see each other.
> >>
> >> Also, since the computers are both in the same

> workgroup

> >> (HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
> >> username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?
> >>
> >> I do appreciate all your help. If this thread reveals
> >> any relevant info please get back to me, if not thanks
> >> again.
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a
> >> server, you need to use
> >> >an account that makes sense to the server. In the
> >> absence of a domain, each
> >> >computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to

> each

> >> other.
> >> >
> >> >So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any
> >> computer) and the account on
> >> >BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the account

> is

> >> BASEMENT\User1. So
> >> >use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select Connect

> as

> >> a different user,
> >> >and give it the full account name and password.
> >> >
> >> >Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect to a
> >> remote server,
> >> >Windows will try logging onto a server account using

> the

> >> same short username
> >> >and password that you are logged on with. This works
> >> for many home users,
> >> >but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined to a
> >> domain and you are
> >> >probably logging in with a domain account.
> >> >
> >> >Better?
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >
> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

> and

> >> confers no rights.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:079b01c344e3$c2e13570$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> Ken,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm not
> >> sure
> >> >> I know what you mean when you say connect to the
> >> desktop
> >> >> with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean
> >> login
> >> >> this way upon startup, because I don't get prompted

> for

> >> >> username and password when trying to access BASEMENT
> >> >> through explore - my network places - entire

> network -

> >> >> microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT

> (with

> >> >> double left click). I just get the error message.
> >> Maybe
> >> >> I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?
> >> >>
> >> >> The second paragraph of your response also throws me
> >> >> off. When I put in my username and password (that I
> >> use
> >> >> at work) the computer returns the desktop computer

> name

> >> >> (BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my
> >> username
> >> >> and asks for a new password.
> >> >>
> >> >> You also mention desktop account. How do I know

> what

> >> >> this is?
> >> >>
> >> >> If this is too much for you to deal with, I will
> >> forward
> >> >> your previous response to my IT guys, and we can

> likely

> >> >> figure it out.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so when

> you

> >> >> connect to the
> >> >> >desktop you will have to connect with a username of
> >> >> BASEMENT\username.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse and

> use

> >> a
> >> >> username of
> >> >> >LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account of

> your

> >> >> desktop account on
> >> >> >the laptop.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no

> warranties,

> >> and
> >> >> confers no rights.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:02a601c344dd$61d92db0$3501280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+)

> connected

> >> to
> >> >> >> cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP

> Home

> >> >> >> Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet
> >> cable.
> >> >> >> Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless

> network

> >> >> card.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> At this point, each computer can see the other

> one

> >> when
> >> >> >> viewing "entire network". I have put them both

> in a

> >> >> >> workgroup of the same name. I even made the

> SSID on

> >> >> the
> >> >> >> router the same as the workgroup.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> However, I can't access files on either computer.
> >> >> When I
> >> >> >> try from laptop to desktop I get "There are
> >> currently
> >> >> no
> >> >> >> logon servers available to service the logon
> >> request".
> >> >> >> When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have
> >> password
> >> >> >> for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the name

> of

> >> the
> >> >> >> desktop computer. I think this issue can be
> >> resolved
> >> >> my
> >> >> >> having the administrator at work create a

> password

> >> for
> >> >> >> me.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >

> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Earl]

Ken,

My laptop has 2000 professional. Do I need my
administrator at work to set up the username and
password, or can I do it within my standard login profile?

Judging from your email, I take it that I can't use
Remote Desktop Connection in XP Home Edition?

I might try VNC which is a freeware that is supposed to
accomplish what I want. Upgrading to XP Pro seems like a
real hassle since I would have to reinstall all my
applications, etc.

Thanks again.

Earl

>-----Original Message-----
>The net use trick was mostly to show that it does work.

Here's what you can

>do.
>
>On the laptop create an account that uses the same

username and password as

>you use when you log into BASEMENT. That should allow

you to access the

>laptop from the desktop.
>
>You don't mention what OS the laptop runs. If it is XP

Pro, visit the User

>Account control panel and go to the advanced tab. It

will allow you to

>store names and passwords for different servers. Use

the name and password

>that worked for NET USE.
>
>Are you referring to just sharing the programs files or

accessing the

>Windows desktop of the desktop machine? If the latter,

you could consider

>upgrading to XP Pro which has Remote Desktop. Otherwise

there are 3-rd

>party products like PCAnywhere, but I have never used

any of them. Maybe

>others here have some advice.
>
>--
>
>Ken Wickes [MSFT]
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

confers no rights.

>
>
>"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
>news:861001c34544$77a43a10$a401280a@phx.gbl...

>> Ken,
>>
>> It worked and I mapped the drive I wanted. Will I have
>> to authenticate through DOS evertime?
>>
>> I also got the printer to work.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> This may sound like too much, but I would really like

to

>> be able to run apps off the desktop from the laptop

when

>> I'm home. Can I achieve this with PC Anywhere, VPN, or
>> something else.
>>
>> Thanks for all your help.
>>
>> Earl

>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Try this, go to the laptop, open a command window and

>> type:

>> >
>> >net use \\basement /user:basement\Earl *
>> >explorer \\basement
>> >
>> >It should prompt your for Earl's password after the

net

>> use. Does this

>> >work?
>> >
>> >The workgroup name is only important for browsing and

>> has no role in

>> >authentication.
>> >
>> >--
>> >
>> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
>> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

and

>> confers no rights.

>> >
>> >
>> >"earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
>> >news:079901c344f1$2d705710$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> Ken,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to

connect

>> >> as a different user through the Map Network Drive

>> wizard

>> >> with no luck. Here's what I did:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
>> >> lower case).
>> >>
>> >> 2. Went to laptop and connected as a different

user (I

>> >> tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
>> >> basement\earl).
>> >>
>> >> 3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I

browse

>> >> out to Basement.
>> >>
>> >> 4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG

workgroup

>> and

>> >> nothing happens.
>> >>
>> >> 5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm

>> back

>> >> to "There are currently no logon servers available

to

>> >> service the logon request".
>> >>
>> >> This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
>> >> router would it? I don't think so since the

computers

>> >> can see each other.
>> >>
>> >> Also, since the computers are both in the same

>> workgroup

>> >> (HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
>> >> username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?
>> >>
>> >> I do appreciate all your help. If this thread

reveals

>> >> any relevant info please get back to me, if not

thanks

>> >> again.
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a
>> >> server, you need to use
>> >> >an account that makes sense to the server. In the
>> >> absence of a domain, each
>> >> >computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to

>> each

>> >> other.
>> >> >
>> >> >So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any
>> >> computer) and the account on
>> >> >BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the

account

>> is

>> >> BASEMENT\User1. So
>> >> >use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select

Connect

>> as

>> >> a different user,
>> >> >and give it the full account name and password.
>> >> >
>> >> >Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect

to a

>> >> remote server,
>> >> >Windows will try logging onto a server account

using

>> the

>> >> same short username
>> >> >and password that you are logged on with. This

works

>> >> for many home users,
>> >> >but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined

to a

>> >> domain and you are
>> >> >probably logging in with a domain account.
>> >> >
>> >> >Better?
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >
>> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
>> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no

warranties,

>> and

>> >> confers no rights.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
>> >> >news:079b01c344e3$c2e13570$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Ken,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm

not

>> >> sure
>> >> >> I know what you mean when you say connect to the
>> >> desktop
>> >> >> with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you

mean

>> >> login
>> >> >> this way upon startup, because I don't get

prompted

>> for

>> >> >> username and password when trying to access

BASEMENT

>> >> >> through explore - my network places - entire

>> network -

>> >> >> microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT

>> (with

>> >> >> double left click). I just get the error

message.

>> >> Maybe
>> >> >> I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The second paragraph of your response also

throws me

>> >> >> off. When I put in my username and password

(that I

>> >> use
>> >> >> at work) the computer returns the desktop

computer

>> name

>> >> >> (BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my
>> >> username
>> >> >> and asks for a new password.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You also mention desktop account. How do I know

>> what

>> >> >> this is?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If this is too much for you to deal with, I will
>> >> forward
>> >> >> your previous response to my IT guys, and we can

>> likely

>> >> >> figure it out.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so

when

>> you

>> >> >> connect to the
>> >> >> >desktop you will have to connect with a

username of

>> >> >> BASEMENT\username.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse

and

>> use

>> >> a
>> >> >> username of
>> >> >> >LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account

of

>> your

>> >> >> desktop account on
>> >> >> >the laptop.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
>> >> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no

>> warranties,

>> >> and
>> >> >> confers no rights.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:02a601c344dd$61d92db0$3501280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+)

>> connected

>> >> to
>> >> >> >> cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP

>> Home

>> >> >> >> Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet
>> >> cable.
>> >> >> >> Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless

>> network

>> >> >> card.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> At this point, each computer can see the other

>> one

>> >> when
>> >> >> >> viewing "entire network". I have put them

both

>> in a

>> >> >> >> workgroup of the same name. I even made the

>> SSID on

>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> router the same as the workgroup.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> However, I can't access files on either

computer.

>> >> >> When I
>> >> >> >> try from laptop to desktop I get "There are
>> >> currently
>> >> >> no
>> >> >> >> logon servers available to service the logon
>> >> request".
>> >> >> >> When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have
>> >> password
>> >> >> >> for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the

name

>> of

>> >> the
>> >> >> >> desktop computer. I think this issue can be
>> >> resolved
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> >> having the administrator at work create a

>> password

>> >> for
>> >> >> >> me.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I am getting frustrated, any help is

appreciated.

>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
>.
>

[Ken Wickes [MSFT]]

I don't believe 2000pro could store passwords like XP, but it's been a
while, anyone?

Home edition cannot be a remote desktop server, just a client.


--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
news:04c501c345a4$b95fc400$a501280a@phx.gbl...

> Ken,
>
> My laptop has 2000 professional. Do I need my
> administrator at work to set up the username and
> password, or can I do it within my standard login profile?
>
> Judging from your email, I take it that I can't use
> Remote Desktop Connection in XP Home Edition?
>
> I might try VNC which is a freeware that is supposed to
> accomplish what I want. Upgrading to XP Pro seems like a
> real hassle since I would have to reinstall all my
> applications, etc.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Earl

> >-----Original Message-----
> >The net use trick was mostly to show that it does work.

> Here's what you can

> >do.
> >
> >On the laptop create an account that uses the same

> username and password as

> >you use when you log into BASEMENT. That should allow

> you to access the

> >laptop from the desktop.
> >
> >You don't mention what OS the laptop runs. If it is XP

> Pro, visit the User

> >Account control panel and go to the advanced tab. It

> will allow you to

> >store names and passwords for different servers. Use

> the name and password

> >that worked for NET USE.
> >
> >Are you referring to just sharing the programs files or

> accessing the

> >Windows desktop of the desktop machine? If the latter,

> you could consider

> >upgrading to XP Pro which has Remote Desktop. Otherwise

> there are 3-rd

> >party products like PCAnywhere, but I have never used

> any of them. Maybe

> >others here have some advice.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights.

> >
> >
> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >news:861001c34544$77a43a10$a401280a@phx.gbl...

> >> Ken,
> >>
> >> It worked and I mapped the drive I wanted. Will I have
> >> to authenticate through DOS evertime?
> >>
> >> I also got the printer to work.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help.
> >>
> >> This may sound like too much, but I would really like

> to

> >> be able to run apps off the desktop from the laptop

> when

> >> I'm home. Can I achieve this with PC Anywhere, VPN, or
> >> something else.
> >>
> >> Thanks for all your help.
> >>
> >> Earl
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Try this, go to the laptop, open a command window and
> >> type:
> >> >
> >> >net use \\basement /user:basement\Earl *
> >> >explorer \\basement
> >> >
> >> >It should prompt your for Earl's password after the

> net

> >> use. Does this
> >> >work?
> >> >
> >> >The workgroup name is only important for browsing and
> >> has no role in
> >> >authentication.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >
> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

> and

> >> confers no rights.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:079901c344f1$2d705710$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> Ken,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to

> connect

> >> >> as a different user through the Map Network Drive
> >> wizard
> >> >> with no luck. Here's what I did:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
> >> >> lower case).
> >> >>
> >> >> 2. Went to laptop and connected as a different

> user (I

> >> >> tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
> >> >> basement\earl).
> >> >>
> >> >> 3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I

> browse

> >> >> out to Basement.
> >> >>
> >> >> 4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG

> workgroup

> >> and
> >> >> nothing happens.
> >> >>
> >> >> 5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm
> >> back
> >> >> to "There are currently no logon servers available

> to

> >> >> service the logon request".
> >> >>
> >> >> This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
> >> >> router would it? I don't think so since the

> computers

> >> >> can see each other.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, since the computers are both in the same
> >> workgroup
> >> >> (HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
> >> >> username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?
> >> >>
> >> >> I do appreciate all your help. If this thread

> reveals

> >> >> any relevant info please get back to me, if not

> thanks

> >> >> again.
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a
> >> >> server, you need to use
> >> >> >an account that makes sense to the server. In the
> >> >> absence of a domain, each
> >> >> >computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to
> >> each
> >> >> other.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any
> >> >> computer) and the account on
> >> >> >BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the

> account

> >> is
> >> >> BASEMENT\User1. So
> >> >> >use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select

> Connect

> >> as
> >> >> a different user,
> >> >> >and give it the full account name and password.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect

> to a

> >> >> remote server,
> >> >> >Windows will try logging onto a server account

> using

> >> the
> >> >> same short username
> >> >> >and password that you are logged on with. This

> works

> >> >> for many home users,
> >> >> >but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined

> to a

> >> >> domain and you are
> >> >> >probably logging in with a domain account.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Better?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no

> warranties,

> >> and
> >> >> confers no rights.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:079b01c344e3$c2e13570$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> Ken,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm

> not

> >> >> sure
> >> >> >> I know what you mean when you say connect to the
> >> >> desktop
> >> >> >> with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you

> mean

> >> >> login
> >> >> >> this way upon startup, because I don't get

> prompted

> >> for
> >> >> >> username and password when trying to access

> BASEMENT

> >> >> >> through explore - my network places - entire
> >> network -
> >> >> >> microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT
> >> (with
> >> >> >> double left click). I just get the error

> message.

> >> >> Maybe
> >> >> >> I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The second paragraph of your response also

> throws me

> >> >> >> off. When I put in my username and password

> (that I

> >> >> use
> >> >> >> at work) the computer returns the desktop

> computer

> >> name
> >> >> >> (BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my
> >> >> username
> >> >> >> and asks for a new password.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You also mention desktop account. How do I know
> >> what
> >> >> >> this is?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If this is too much for you to deal with, I will
> >> >> forward
> >> >> >> your previous response to my IT guys, and we can
> >> likely
> >> >> >> figure it out.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so

> when

> >> you
> >> >> >> connect to the
> >> >> >> >desktop you will have to connect with a

> username of

> >> >> >> BASEMENT\username.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse

> and

> >> use
> >> >> a
> >> >> >> username of
> >> >> >> >LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account

> of

> >> your
> >> >> >> desktop account on
> >> >> >> >the laptop.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >> >> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
> >> warranties,
> >> >> and
> >> >> >> confers no rights.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >news:02a601c344dd$61d92db0$3501280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >> I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+)
> >> connected
> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP
> >> Home
> >> >> >> >> Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet
> >> >> cable.
> >> >> >> >> Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless
> >> network
> >> >> >> card.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> At this point, each computer can see the other
> >> one
> >> >> when
> >> >> >> >> viewing "entire network". I have put them

> both

> >> in a
> >> >> >> >> workgroup of the same name. I even made the
> >> SSID on
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> router the same as the workgroup.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> However, I can't access files on either

> computer.

> >> >> >> When I
> >> >> >> >> try from laptop to desktop I get "There are
> >> >> currently
> >> >> >> no
> >> >> >> >> logon servers available to service the logon
> >> >> request".
> >> >> >> >> When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have
> >> >> password
> >> >> >> >> for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the

> name

> >> of
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> desktop computer. I think this issue can be
> >> >> resolved
> >> >> >> my
> >> >> >> >> having the administrator at work create a
> >> password
> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> me.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I am getting frustrated, any help is

> appreciated.

> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >

> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Earl]

Ken,

I thought I posted a reply, but maybe not. So, I will
write it again.

I have 2000 professional on laptop. Do I need my
administrator at work to add a username and password that
duplicates the basement computer, or can I do it?

As far as remote sharing, I am actually on the laptop now
with a virtual session on the desktop using Net Meeting.
It's a little crude but seems to work. I don't think
that I can use Remote Network Connection directly in XP
Home Edition?

It's all been a fun learning experience, and I'm glad to
see some results in a couple of nights. Thanks again for
your help.

I might try some freeware called VNC from AT&T, have you
heard of it? My company IT guys think it will open ports
and leave me susceptible to hackers.

Earl

>-----Original Message-----
>The net use trick was mostly to show that it does work.

Here's what you can

>do.
>
>On the laptop create an account that uses the same

username and password as

>you use when you log into BASEMENT. That should allow

you to access the

>laptop from the desktop.
>
>You don't mention what OS the laptop runs. If it is XP

Pro, visit the User

>Account control panel and go to the advanced tab. It

will allow you to

>store names and passwords for different servers. Use

the name and password

>that worked for NET USE.
>
>Are you referring to just sharing the programs files or

accessing the

>Windows desktop of the desktop machine? If the latter,

you could consider

>upgrading to XP Pro which has Remote Desktop. Otherwise

there are 3-rd

>party products like PCAnywhere, but I have never used

any of them. Maybe

>others here have some advice.
>
>--
>
>Ken Wickes [MSFT]
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

confers no rights.

>
>
>"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
>news:861001c34544$77a43a10$a401280a@phx.gbl...

>> Ken,
>>
>> It worked and I mapped the drive I wanted. Will I have
>> to authenticate through DOS evertime?
>>
>> I also got the printer to work.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> This may sound like too much, but I would really like

to

>> be able to run apps off the desktop from the laptop

when

>> I'm home. Can I achieve this with PC Anywhere, VPN, or
>> something else.
>>
>> Thanks for all your help.
>>
>> Earl

>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Try this, go to the laptop, open a command window and

>> type:

>> >
>> >net use \\basement /user:basement\Earl *
>> >explorer \\basement
>> >
>> >It should prompt your for Earl's password after the

net

>> use. Does this

>> >work?
>> >
>> >The workgroup name is only important for browsing and

>> has no role in

>> >authentication.
>> >
>> >--
>> >
>> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
>> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

and

>> confers no rights.

>> >
>> >
>> >"earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
>> >news:079901c344f1$2d705710$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> Ken,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to

connect

>> >> as a different user through the Map Network Drive

>> wizard

>> >> with no luck. Here's what I did:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
>> >> lower case).
>> >>
>> >> 2. Went to laptop and connected as a different

user (I

>> >> tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
>> >> basement\earl).
>> >>
>> >> 3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I

browse

>> >> out to Basement.
>> >>
>> >> 4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG

workgroup

>> and

>> >> nothing happens.
>> >>
>> >> 5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm

>> back

>> >> to "There are currently no logon servers available

to

>> >> service the logon request".
>> >>
>> >> This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
>> >> router would it? I don't think so since the

computers

>> >> can see each other.
>> >>
>> >> Also, since the computers are both in the same

>> workgroup

>> >> (HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
>> >> username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?
>> >>
>> >> I do appreciate all your help. If this thread

reveals

>> >> any relevant info please get back to me, if not

thanks

>> >> again.
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a
>> >> server, you need to use
>> >> >an account that makes sense to the server. In the
>> >> absence of a domain, each
>> >> >computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to

>> each

>> >> other.
>> >> >
>> >> >So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any
>> >> computer) and the account on
>> >> >BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the

account

>> is

>> >> BASEMENT\User1. So
>> >> >use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select

Connect

>> as

>> >> a different user,
>> >> >and give it the full account name and password.
>> >> >
>> >> >Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect

to a

>> >> remote server,
>> >> >Windows will try logging onto a server account

using

>> the

>> >> same short username
>> >> >and password that you are logged on with. This

works

>> >> for many home users,
>> >> >but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined

to a

>> >> domain and you are
>> >> >probably logging in with a domain account.
>> >> >
>> >> >Better?
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >
>> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
>> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no

warranties,

>> and

>> >> confers no rights.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
>> >> >news:079b01c344e3$c2e13570$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Ken,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm

not

>> >> sure
>> >> >> I know what you mean when you say connect to the
>> >> desktop
>> >> >> with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you

mean

>> >> login
>> >> >> this way upon startup, because I don't get

prompted

>> for

>> >> >> username and password when trying to access

BASEMENT

>> >> >> through explore - my network places - entire

>> network -

>> >> >> microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT

>> (with

>> >> >> double left click). I just get the error

message.

>> >> Maybe
>> >> >> I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The second paragraph of your response also

throws me

>> >> >> off. When I put in my username and password

(that I

>> >> use
>> >> >> at work) the computer returns the desktop

computer

>> name

>> >> >> (BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my
>> >> username
>> >> >> and asks for a new password.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You also mention desktop account. How do I know

>> what

>> >> >> this is?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If this is too much for you to deal with, I will
>> >> forward
>> >> >> your previous response to my IT guys, and we can

>> likely

>> >> >> figure it out.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so

when

>> you

>> >> >> connect to the
>> >> >> >desktop you will have to connect with a

username of

>> >> >> BASEMENT\username.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse

and

>> use

>> >> a
>> >> >> username of
>> >> >> >LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account

of

>> your

>> >> >> desktop account on
>> >> >> >the laptop.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
>> >> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no

>> warranties,

>> >> and
>> >> >> confers no rights.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:02a601c344dd$61d92db0$3501280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+)

>> connected

>> >> to
>> >> >> >> cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP

>> Home

>> >> >> >> Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet
>> >> cable.
>> >> >> >> Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless

>> network

>> >> >> card.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> At this point, each computer can see the other

>> one

>> >> when
>> >> >> >> viewing "entire network". I have put them

both

>> in a

>> >> >> >> workgroup of the same name. I even made the

>> SSID on

>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> router the same as the workgroup.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> However, I can't access files on either

computer.

>> >> >> When I
>> >> >> >> try from laptop to desktop I get "There are
>> >> currently
>> >> >> no
>> >> >> >> logon servers available to service the logon
>> >> request".
>> >> >> >> When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have
>> >> password
>> >> >> >> for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the

name

>> of

>> >> the
>> >> >> >> desktop computer. I think this issue can be
>> >> resolved
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> >> having the administrator at work create a

>> password

>> >> for
>> >> >> >> me.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I am getting frustrated, any help is

appreciated.

>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
>.
>

[Ken Wickes [MSFT]]

I don't think there is much your domain admin can do. You could add another
local account to your laptop, this would require you to switch between
accounts when you use your laptop. You could just click on the share in
explorer and enter your name and password when prompted. If you don't mind
storing your password in batch file you could put one in your startup group
that did the net use.

It's possible you could add an account to your desktop that match the
username password of your laptop domain account. Not sure if that would
work, never tried it.

XP Home can't be a Remote Desktop server, just a client.

Never used VNC. If you are running the server on your desktop and the
desktop is behind a router, I doubt you have much to worry about.

It's good for me too to understand the troubles customers have with the NT
permissions model. A quick read through this newsgroup shows that it is not
obvious to a great many people.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
news:088f01c345ba$dae39f50$a101280a@phx.gbl...

> Ken,
>
> I thought I posted a reply, but maybe not. So, I will
> write it again.
>
> I have 2000 professional on laptop. Do I need my
> administrator at work to add a username and password that
> duplicates the basement computer, or can I do it?
>
> As far as remote sharing, I am actually on the laptop now
> with a virtual session on the desktop using Net Meeting.
> It's a little crude but seems to work. I don't think
> that I can use Remote Network Connection directly in XP
> Home Edition?
>
> It's all been a fun learning experience, and I'm glad to
> see some results in a couple of nights. Thanks again for
> your help.
>
> I might try some freeware called VNC from AT&T, have you
> heard of it? My company IT guys think it will open ports
> and leave me susceptible to hackers.
>
> Earl

> >-----Original Message-----
> >The net use trick was mostly to show that it does work.

> Here's what you can

> >do.
> >
> >On the laptop create an account that uses the same

> username and password as

> >you use when you log into BASEMENT. That should allow

> you to access the

> >laptop from the desktop.
> >
> >You don't mention what OS the laptop runs. If it is XP

> Pro, visit the User

> >Account control panel and go to the advanced tab. It

> will allow you to

> >store names and passwords for different servers. Use

> the name and password

> >that worked for NET USE.
> >
> >Are you referring to just sharing the programs files or

> accessing the

> >Windows desktop of the desktop machine? If the latter,

> you could consider

> >upgrading to XP Pro which has Remote Desktop. Otherwise

> there are 3-rd

> >party products like PCAnywhere, but I have never used

> any of them. Maybe

> >others here have some advice.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights.

> >
> >
> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >news:861001c34544$77a43a10$a401280a@phx.gbl...

> >> Ken,
> >>
> >> It worked and I mapped the drive I wanted. Will I have
> >> to authenticate through DOS evertime?
> >>
> >> I also got the printer to work.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help.
> >>
> >> This may sound like too much, but I would really like

> to

> >> be able to run apps off the desktop from the laptop

> when

> >> I'm home. Can I achieve this with PC Anywhere, VPN, or
> >> something else.
> >>
> >> Thanks for all your help.
> >>
> >> Earl
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Try this, go to the laptop, open a command window and
> >> type:
> >> >
> >> >net use \\basement /user:basement\Earl *
> >> >explorer \\basement
> >> >
> >> >It should prompt your for Earl's password after the

> net

> >> use. Does this
> >> >work?
> >> >
> >> >The workgroup name is only important for browsing and
> >> has no role in
> >> >authentication.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >
> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

> and

> >> confers no rights.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:079901c344f1$2d705710$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> Ken,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to

> connect

> >> >> as a different user through the Map Network Drive
> >> wizard
> >> >> with no luck. Here's what I did:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
> >> >> lower case).
> >> >>
> >> >> 2. Went to laptop and connected as a different

> user (I

> >> >> tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
> >> >> basement\earl).
> >> >>
> >> >> 3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I

> browse

> >> >> out to Basement.
> >> >>
> >> >> 4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG

> workgroup

> >> and
> >> >> nothing happens.
> >> >>
> >> >> 5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm
> >> back
> >> >> to "There are currently no logon servers available

> to

> >> >> service the logon request".
> >> >>
> >> >> This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
> >> >> router would it? I don't think so since the

> computers

> >> >> can see each other.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, since the computers are both in the same
> >> workgroup
> >> >> (HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
> >> >> username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?
> >> >>
> >> >> I do appreciate all your help. If this thread

> reveals

> >> >> any relevant info please get back to me, if not

> thanks

> >> >> again.
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a
> >> >> server, you need to use
> >> >> >an account that makes sense to the server. In the
> >> >> absence of a domain, each
> >> >> >computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to
> >> each
> >> >> other.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any
> >> >> computer) and the account on
> >> >> >BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the

> account

> >> is
> >> >> BASEMENT\User1. So
> >> >> >use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select

> Connect

> >> as
> >> >> a different user,
> >> >> >and give it the full account name and password.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect

> to a

> >> >> remote server,
> >> >> >Windows will try logging onto a server account

> using

> >> the
> >> >> same short username
> >> >> >and password that you are logged on with. This

> works

> >> >> for many home users,
> >> >> >but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined

> to a

> >> >> domain and you are
> >> >> >probably logging in with a domain account.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Better?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no

> warranties,

> >> and
> >> >> confers no rights.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:079b01c344e3$c2e13570$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> Ken,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm

> not

> >> >> sure
> >> >> >> I know what you mean when you say connect to the
> >> >> desktop
> >> >> >> with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you

> mean

> >> >> login
> >> >> >> this way upon startup, because I don't get

> prompted

> >> for
> >> >> >> username and password when trying to access

> BASEMENT

> >> >> >> through explore - my network places - entire
> >> network -
> >> >> >> microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT
> >> (with
> >> >> >> double left click). I just get the error

> message.

> >> >> Maybe
> >> >> >> I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The second paragraph of your response also

> throws me

> >> >> >> off. When I put in my username and password

> (that I

> >> >> use
> >> >> >> at work) the computer returns the desktop

> computer

> >> name
> >> >> >> (BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my
> >> >> username
> >> >> >> and asks for a new password.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You also mention desktop account. How do I know
> >> what
> >> >> >> this is?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If this is too much for you to deal with, I will
> >> >> forward
> >> >> >> your previous response to my IT guys, and we can
> >> likely
> >> >> >> figure it out.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so

> when

> >> you
> >> >> >> connect to the
> >> >> >> >desktop you will have to connect with a

> username of

> >> >> >> BASEMENT\username.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse

> and

> >> use
> >> >> a
> >> >> >> username of
> >> >> >> >LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account

> of

> >> your
> >> >> >> desktop account on
> >> >> >> >the laptop.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >> >> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
> >> warranties,
> >> >> and
> >> >> >> confers no rights.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >news:02a601c344dd$61d92db0$3501280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >> I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+)
> >> connected
> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP
> >> Home
> >> >> >> >> Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet
> >> >> cable.
> >> >> >> >> Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless
> >> network
> >> >> >> card.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> At this point, each computer can see the other
> >> one
> >> >> when
> >> >> >> >> viewing "entire network". I have put them

> both

> >> in a
> >> >> >> >> workgroup of the same name. I even made the
> >> SSID on
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> router the same as the workgroup.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> However, I can't access files on either

> computer.

> >> >> >> When I
> >> >> >> >> try from laptop to desktop I get "There are
> >> >> currently
> >> >> >> no
> >> >> >> >> logon servers available to service the logon
> >> >> request".
> >> >> >> >> When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have
> >> >> password
> >> >> >> >> for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the

> name

> >> of
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> desktop computer. I think this issue can be
> >> >> resolved
> >> >> >> my
> >> >> >> >> having the administrator at work create a
> >> password
> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> me.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I am getting frustrated, any help is

> appreciated.

> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >

> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Earl]

Ken,

I am trying to reply post for the third time to your last
thread. Not sure what the problem is. I'm trying this
one from work. Last night I wrote:

"The laptop runs 2000 professional. Do I need an
administrator at work to set up the user name and
password, or can I do it within my profile?

As far as remote desktop, I was able to use net meeting to
access the desktop of the desktop from my laptop. It's
crude but works. It's crude because I need the computers
together to set it up and grant access for control.

I was considering using freeware called VNC from AT&T in
Cambridge for remote desktop stuff, but my IT people at
work say it is a security risk since it opens ports.

Thanks again for all your help. I have come a long way in
a couple of nights because of your help."

Earl

>-----Original Message-----
>The net use trick was mostly to show that it does work.

Here's what you can

>do.
>
>On the laptop create an account that uses the same

username and password as

>you use when you log into BASEMENT. That should allow

you to access the

>laptop from the desktop.
>
>You don't mention what OS the laptop runs. If it is XP

Pro, visit the User

>Account control panel and go to the advanced tab. It

will allow you to

>store names and passwords for different servers. Use the

name and password

>that worked for NET USE.
>
>Are you referring to just sharing the programs files or

accessing the

>Windows desktop of the desktop machine? If the latter,

you could consider

>upgrading to XP Pro which has Remote Desktop. Otherwise

there are 3-rd

>party products like PCAnywhere, but I have never used any

of them. Maybe

>others here have some advice.
>
>--
>
>Ken Wickes [MSFT]
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

confers no rights.

>
>
>"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
>news:861001c34544$77a43a10$a401280a@phx.gbl...

>> Ken,
>>
>> It worked and I mapped the drive I wanted. Will I have
>> to authenticate through DOS evertime?
>>
>> I also got the printer to work.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> This may sound like too much, but I would really like to
>> be able to run apps off the desktop from the laptop when
>> I'm home. Can I achieve this with PC Anywhere, VPN, or
>> something else.
>>
>> Thanks for all your help.
>>
>> Earl

>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Try this, go to the laptop, open a command window and

>> type:

>> >
>> >net use \\basement /user:basement\Earl *
>> >explorer \\basement
>> >
>> >It should prompt your for Earl's password after the net

>> use. Does this

>> >work?
>> >
>> >The workgroup name is only important for browsing and

>> has no role in

>> >authentication.
>> >
>> >--
>> >
>> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
>> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

and

>> confers no rights.

>> >
>> >
>> >"earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
>> >news:079901c344f1$2d705710$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> Ken,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to

connect

>> >> as a different user through the Map Network Drive

>> wizard

>> >> with no luck. Here's what I did:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
>> >> lower case).
>> >>
>> >> 2. Went to laptop and connected as a different user

(I

>> >> tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
>> >> basement\earl).
>> >>
>> >> 3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I

browse

>> >> out to Basement.
>> >>
>> >> 4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG workgroup

>> and

>> >> nothing happens.
>> >>
>> >> 5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm

>> back

>> >> to "There are currently no logon servers available to
>> >> service the logon request".
>> >>
>> >> This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
>> >> router would it? I don't think so since the

computers

>> >> can see each other.
>> >>
>> >> Also, since the computers are both in the same

>> workgroup

>> >> (HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
>> >> username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?
>> >>
>> >> I do appreciate all your help. If this thread

reveals

>> >> any relevant info please get back to me, if not

thanks

>> >> again.
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a
>> >> server, you need to use
>> >> >an account that makes sense to the server. In the
>> >> absence of a domain, each
>> >> >computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to

>> each

>> >> other.
>> >> >
>> >> >So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any
>> >> computer) and the account on
>> >> >BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the account

>> is

>> >> BASEMENT\User1. So
>> >> >use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select Connect

>> as

>> >> a different user,
>> >> >and give it the full account name and password.
>> >> >
>> >> >Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect

to a

>> >> remote server,
>> >> >Windows will try logging onto a server account using

>> the

>> >> same short username
>> >> >and password that you are logged on with. This

works

>> >> for many home users,
>> >> >but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined

to a

>> >> domain and you are
>> >> >probably logging in with a domain account.
>> >> >
>> >> >Better?
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >
>> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
>> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

>> and

>> >> confers no rights.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
>> >> >news:079b01c344e3$c2e13570$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Ken,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm

not

>> >> sure
>> >> >> I know what you mean when you say connect to the
>> >> desktop
>> >> >> with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean
>> >> login
>> >> >> this way upon startup, because I don't get

prompted

>> for

>> >> >> username and password when trying to access

BASEMENT

>> >> >> through explore - my network places - entire

>> network -

>> >> >> microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT

>> (with

>> >> >> double left click). I just get the error message.
>> >> Maybe
>> >> >> I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The second paragraph of your response also throws

me

>> >> >> off. When I put in my username and password

(that I

>> >> use
>> >> >> at work) the computer returns the desktop computer

>> name

>> >> >> (BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my
>> >> username
>> >> >> and asks for a new password.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You also mention desktop account. How do I know

>> what

>> >> >> this is?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If this is too much for you to deal with, I will
>> >> forward
>> >> >> your previous response to my IT guys, and we can

>> likely

>> >> >> figure it out.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so

when

>> you

>> >> >> connect to the
>> >> >> >desktop you will have to connect with a username

of

>> >> >> BASEMENT\username.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse and

>> use

>> >> a
>> >> >> username of
>> >> >> >LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account of

>> your

>> >> >> desktop account on
>> >> >> >the laptop.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
>> >> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no

>> warranties,

>> >> and
>> >> >> confers no rights.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:02a601c344dd$61d92db0$3501280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+)

>> connected

>> >> to
>> >> >> >> cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP

>> Home

>> >> >> >> Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet
>> >> cable.
>> >> >> >> Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless

>> network

>> >> >> card.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> At this point, each computer can see the other

>> one

>> >> when
>> >> >> >> viewing "entire network". I have put them both

>> in a

>> >> >> >> workgroup of the same name. I even made the

>> SSID on

>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> router the same as the workgroup.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> However, I can't access files on either

computer.

>> >> >> When I
>> >> >> >> try from laptop to desktop I get "There are
>> >> currently
>> >> >> no
>> >> >> >> logon servers available to service the logon
>> >> request".
>> >> >> >> When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have
>> >> password
>> >> >> >> for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the

name

>> of

>> >> the
>> >> >> >> desktop computer. I think this issue can be
>> >> resolved
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> >> having the administrator at work create a

>> password

>> >> for
>> >> >> >> me.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I am getting frustrated, any help is

appreciated.

>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
>.
>

[Ken Wickes [MSFT]]

I've seen all 3 of your responses, and answered the last 2, hopefully you
can find them.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
news:965301c34612$baa30f70$a401280a@phx.gbl...

> Ken,
>
> I am trying to reply post for the third time to your last
> thread. Not sure what the problem is. I'm trying this
> one from work. Last night I wrote:
>
> "The laptop runs 2000 professional. Do I need an
> administrator at work to set up the user name and
> password, or can I do it within my profile?
>
> As far as remote desktop, I was able to use net meeting to
> access the desktop of the desktop from my laptop. It's
> crude but works. It's crude because I need the computers
> together to set it up and grant access for control.
>
> I was considering using freeware called VNC from AT&T in
> Cambridge for remote desktop stuff, but my IT people at
> work say it is a security risk since it opens ports.
>
> Thanks again for all your help. I have come a long way in
> a couple of nights because of your help."
>
> Earl
>

> >-----Original Message-----
> >The net use trick was mostly to show that it does work.

> Here's what you can

> >do.
> >
> >On the laptop create an account that uses the same

> username and password as

> >you use when you log into BASEMENT. That should allow

> you to access the

> >laptop from the desktop.
> >
> >You don't mention what OS the laptop runs. If it is XP

> Pro, visit the User

> >Account control panel and go to the advanced tab. It

> will allow you to

> >store names and passwords for different servers. Use the

> name and password

> >that worked for NET USE.
> >
> >Are you referring to just sharing the programs files or

> accessing the

> >Windows desktop of the desktop machine? If the latter,

> you could consider

> >upgrading to XP Pro which has Remote Desktop. Otherwise

> there are 3-rd

> >party products like PCAnywhere, but I have never used any

> of them. Maybe

> >others here have some advice.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights.

> >
> >
> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >news:861001c34544$77a43a10$a401280a@phx.gbl...

> >> Ken,
> >>
> >> It worked and I mapped the drive I wanted. Will I have
> >> to authenticate through DOS evertime?
> >>
> >> I also got the printer to work.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help.
> >>
> >> This may sound like too much, but I would really like to
> >> be able to run apps off the desktop from the laptop when
> >> I'm home. Can I achieve this with PC Anywhere, VPN, or
> >> something else.
> >>
> >> Thanks for all your help.
> >>
> >> Earl
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Try this, go to the laptop, open a command window and
> >> type:
> >> >
> >> >net use \\basement /user:basement\Earl *
> >> >explorer \\basement
> >> >
> >> >It should prompt your for Earl's password after the net
> >> use. Does this
> >> >work?
> >> >
> >> >The workgroup name is only important for browsing and
> >> has no role in
> >> >authentication.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >
> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

> and

> >> confers no rights.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:079901c344f1$2d705710$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> Ken,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to

> connect

> >> >> as a different user through the Map Network Drive
> >> wizard
> >> >> with no luck. Here's what I did:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
> >> >> lower case).
> >> >>
> >> >> 2. Went to laptop and connected as a different user

> (I

> >> >> tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
> >> >> basement\earl).
> >> >>
> >> >> 3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I

> browse

> >> >> out to Basement.
> >> >>
> >> >> 4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG workgroup
> >> and
> >> >> nothing happens.
> >> >>
> >> >> 5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm
> >> back
> >> >> to "There are currently no logon servers available to
> >> >> service the logon request".
> >> >>
> >> >> This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
> >> >> router would it? I don't think so since the

> computers

> >> >> can see each other.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, since the computers are both in the same
> >> workgroup
> >> >> (HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
> >> >> username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?
> >> >>
> >> >> I do appreciate all your help. If this thread

> reveals

> >> >> any relevant info please get back to me, if not

> thanks

> >> >> again.
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a
> >> >> server, you need to use
> >> >> >an account that makes sense to the server. In the
> >> >> absence of a domain, each
> >> >> >computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to
> >> each
> >> >> other.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any
> >> >> computer) and the account on
> >> >> >BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the account
> >> is
> >> >> BASEMENT\User1. So
> >> >> >use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select Connect
> >> as
> >> >> a different user,
> >> >> >and give it the full account name and password.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect

> to a

> >> >> remote server,
> >> >> >Windows will try logging onto a server account using
> >> the
> >> >> same short username
> >> >> >and password that you are logged on with. This

> works

> >> >> for many home users,
> >> >> >but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined

> to a

> >> >> domain and you are
> >> >> >probably logging in with a domain account.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Better?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
> >> and
> >> >> confers no rights.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:079b01c344e3$c2e13570$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> Ken,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm

> not

> >> >> sure
> >> >> >> I know what you mean when you say connect to the
> >> >> desktop
> >> >> >> with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean
> >> >> login
> >> >> >> this way upon startup, because I don't get

> prompted

> >> for
> >> >> >> username and password when trying to access

> BASEMENT

> >> >> >> through explore - my network places - entire
> >> network -
> >> >> >> microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT
> >> (with
> >> >> >> double left click). I just get the error message.
> >> >> Maybe
> >> >> >> I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The second paragraph of your response also throws

> me

> >> >> >> off. When I put in my username and password

> (that I

> >> >> use
> >> >> >> at work) the computer returns the desktop computer
> >> name
> >> >> >> (BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my
> >> >> username
> >> >> >> and asks for a new password.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You also mention desktop account. How do I know
> >> what
> >> >> >> this is?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If this is too much for you to deal with, I will
> >> >> forward
> >> >> >> your previous response to my IT guys, and we can
> >> likely
> >> >> >> figure it out.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so

> when

> >> you
> >> >> >> connect to the
> >> >> >> >desktop you will have to connect with a username

> of

> >> >> >> BASEMENT\username.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse and
> >> use
> >> >> a
> >> >> >> username of
> >> >> >> >LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account of
> >> your
> >> >> >> desktop account on
> >> >> >> >the laptop.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Ken Wickes [MSFT]
> >> >> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
> >> warranties,
> >> >> and
> >> >> >> confers no rights.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"Earl" <kandeschneider@att.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >news:02a601c344dd$61d92db0$3501280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >> I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+)
> >> connected
> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP
> >> Home
> >> >> >> >> Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet
> >> >> cable.
> >> >> >> >> Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless
> >> network
> >> >> >> card.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> At this point, each computer can see the other
> >> one
> >> >> when
> >> >> >> >> viewing "entire network". I have put them both
> >> in a
> >> >> >> >> workgroup of the same name. I even made the
> >> SSID on
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> router the same as the workgroup.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> However, I can't access files on either

> computer.

> >> >> >> When I
> >> >> >> >> try from laptop to desktop I get "There are
> >> >> currently
> >> >> >> no
> >> >> >> >> logon servers available to service the logon
> >> >> request".
> >> >> >> >> When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have
> >> >> password
> >> >> >> >> for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the

> name

> >> of
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> desktop computer. I think this issue can be
> >> >> resolved
> >> >> >> my
> >> >> >> >> having the administrator at work create a
> >> password
> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> me.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I am getting frustrated, any help is

> appreciated.

> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >

> >
> >
> >.
> >