New & Improved -- Site Check

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  1. #1

    Default Re: New & Improved -- Site Check

    So, exactly how did you improve the parrot's photos so much? They look
    great! Eleanor
    "Bruce Cirrinone" <mrbrucec@removeme.hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bhhdd0$agf$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > As a result of a huge number of helpful responses, I've reworked quite a
    > bit of my latest site: [url]http://www.partyparrots.com[/url].
    >
    > I would appreciate comments on the design, CSS, etc. I've improved a
    number
    > of underexposed photographs on the Troupe page and on the Zsa Zsa page
    based
    > specifically on what I learned here!
    >
    > I would like to express my appreciation to Darrel, Ilya Razmanov, Sam
    > Poikail, Eleanor Culling, Craig Hartel, and Jim Babbage (from this
    > newsgroup) for taking the time to provide me with their opinions and
    > expertise. Over at Project VII, Karen, Art Stump, John T, Cat, Katsuey,
    > Nadia, Rainer Bilek, and David Powers all contributed to what I feel is a
    > substantially improved site.
    >
    > Thanks to all!
    >
    > Warm regards,
    > ~ Bruce
    >
    >

    E. T. Culling Guest

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  3. #2

    Default Re: New & Improved -- Site Check

    Eleanor,

    I used LEVELS and CURVES, which I'd never experimented with before! Jim
    Babbage offered a lot of insight, and I decided to take his course on
    Community MX ($2) to learn more. Frankly, it was worth it, as your comment
    proves! Thank you!

    ~ Bruce

    "E. T. Culling" <etcetc@notatcrcwnet.com> wrote in message
    news:bhhf31$ccd$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > So, exactly how did you improve the parrot's photos so much? They look
    > great! Eleanor
    > "Bruce Cirrinone" <mrbrucec@removeme.hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:bhhdd0$agf$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > > As a result of a huge number of helpful responses, I've reworked quite
    a
    > > bit of my latest site: [url]http://www.partyparrots.com[/url].
    > >
    > > I would appreciate comments on the design, CSS, etc. I've improved a
    > number
    > > of underexposed photographs on the Troupe page and on the Zsa Zsa page
    > based
    > > specifically on what I learned here!
    > >
    > > I would like to express my appreciation to Darrel, Ilya Razmanov, Sam
    > > Poikail, Eleanor Culling, Craig Hartel, and Jim Babbage (from this
    > > newsgroup) for taking the time to provide me with their opinions and
    > > expertise. Over at Project VII, Karen, Art Stump, John T, Cat, Katsuey,
    > > Nadia, Rainer Bilek, and David Powers all contributed to what I feel is
    a
    > > substantially improved site.
    > >
    > > Thanks to all!
    > >
    > > Warm regards,
    > > ~ Bruce
    > >
    > >
    >
    >

    Bruce Cirrinone Guest

  4. #3

    Default Re: New & Improved -- Site Check

    On 14 Aug 2003 in macromedia.fireworks, Bruce Cirrinone wrote:
    > As a result of a huge number of helpful responses, I've reworked
    > quite a bit of my latest site: [url]http://www.partyparrots.com[/url].
    Are those really the same pictures? WOW! They look great.

    Anyway, two items:

    If you can, do something about the length of the page with the pictures
    of all the parrots ([url]http://www.partyparrots.com/troupe.htm[/url]) - maybe use
    two columns rather than one long one? It's annoying to do all that
    scrolling.

    In the party pictures pages
    ([url]http://www.partyparrots.com/luau/photo1.htm[/url]), the scroll is painfully
    slow. Maybe go into the settings and speed it up?

    --
    Joe Makowiec can be reached at:
    [url]http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe[/url]
    Joe Makowiec Guest

  5. #4

    Default Re: New & Improved -- Site Check

    2 things.... no no... wait 3 things.

    FWIW:

    1) On this page, [url]http://www.partyparrots.com/luau/photo1.htm[/url] , the
    instructions for using the Gee Whiz Scroller don't fit on a 1024x768
    maximized browser.

    2) Hopefully, picture names like 1MVC-007S won't be displayed to the user.
    I expected they are sequence file names generated by a Sony Mavica or DSC
    camera, but they won't mean a thing to your visitors.

    3) The mouseover "chain link fence" might be a little bit too much. The
    watermark should suffice. And the Mouseover event is not fired when SnagIt
    or most other screen capture utilities are active.

    Cheers,
    Sam

    "Bruce Cirrinone" <mrbrucec@removeme.hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bhhdd0$agf$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > As a result of a huge number of helpful responses, I've reworked quite a
    > bit of my latest site: [url]http://www.partyparrots.com[/url].
    >
    > I would appreciate comments on the design, CSS, etc. I've improved a
    number
    > of underexposed photographs on the Troupe page and on the Zsa Zsa page
    based
    > specifically on what I learned here!
    >
    > I would like to express my appreciation to Darrel, Ilya Razmanov, Sam
    > Poikail, Eleanor Culling, Craig Hartel, and Jim Babbage (from this
    > newsgroup) for taking the time to provide me with their opinions and
    > expertise. Over at Project VII, Karen, Art Stump, John T, Cat, Katsuey,
    > Nadia, Rainer Bilek, and David Powers all contributed to what I feel is a
    > substantially improved site.
    >
    > Thanks to all!
    >
    > Warm regards,
    > ~ Bruce
    >
    >

    Sam Poikail Guest

  6. #5

    Default Re: New & Improved -- Site Check

    .. . . and exactly which tutorial was that?
    Thanks,

    Durwood
    "Bruce Cirrinone" <mrbrucec@removeme.hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bhhgv3$ee6$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > Eleanor,
    >
    > I used LEVELS and CURVES, which I'd never experimented with before! Jim
    > Babbage offered a lot of insight, and I decided to take his course on
    > Community MX ($2) to learn more. Frankly, it was worth it, as your
    comment
    > proves! Thank you!
    >
    > ~ Bruce
    >
    > "E. T. Culling" <etcetc@notatcrcwnet.com> wrote in message
    > news:bhhf31$ccd$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > > So, exactly how did you improve the parrot's photos so much? They look
    > > great! Eleanor
    > > "Bruce Cirrinone" <mrbrucec@removeme.hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:bhhdd0$agf$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > > > As a result of a huge number of helpful responses, I've reworked
    quite
    > a
    > > > bit of my latest site: [url]http://www.partyparrots.com[/url].
    > > >
    > > > I would appreciate comments on the design, CSS, etc. I've improved a
    > > number
    > > > of underexposed photographs on the Troupe page and on the Zsa Zsa page
    > > based
    > > > specifically on what I learned here!
    > > >
    > > > I would like to express my appreciation to Darrel, Ilya Razmanov, Sam
    > > > Poikail, Eleanor Culling, Craig Hartel, and Jim Babbage (from this
    > > > newsgroup) for taking the time to provide me with their opinions and
    > > > expertise. Over at Project VII, Karen, Art Stump, John T, Cat,
    Katsuey,
    > > > Nadia, Rainer Bilek, and David Powers all contributed to what I feel
    is
    > a
    > > > substantially improved site.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks to all!
    > > >
    > > > Warm regards,
    > > > ~ Bruce
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >

    Durwood Edwards Guest

  7. #6

    Default Re: New & Improved -- Site Check

    This addresses comments and questionsfrom several folks...

    Durwood Edwards: the tutorial was called LEVELS AND CURVES by Jim Babbage.
    If you are not familiar with those two editing tools, this is a brief
    tutorial that was well worth $2 to me to get my pictures to look better!
    I'd generally rather buy a book, but this was a case of "I want the answers
    now, to fix this problem NOW."

    Sam Poikail had three things:
    1. What browser/OS are you running, Sam? I've checked in NN4, NN7, and
    IE6 and those instructions are appropriately contained in even an 800x600
    browser. Would love to know what's failing there!
    2. The picture names are indeed displayed to the user. Yes, we are
    using names assigned by the camera. The purchaser needs a reference
    number/item number and this is devilishly convenient.
    3. The mouseover "chain link fence" _is_ probably a bit much, but it's
    fun, and shows the clients that we are taking our ownership of these
    pictures pretty seriously. However, you and I both know that anyone truly
    determined to get a copy of those pictures will indeed be able to do so by
    SnagIt or many other methods. The site owner wanted to make it as difficult
    as possible for a "moocher," and I think we've done that!

    Joe Makowiec had two items:
    1. The length of the gallery pages... I struggled over this one, Joe.
    I didn't want to use the scroller again, as I do for client pictures under
    Events. I wanted to maintain a layout that would be practical for someone
    viewing at a minimun of 800x600. I tried a number of methods, but if I
    doubled up I lost the ability of having the full-sized photo next to the
    thumbnail, and I didn't like the look. I agree that this is an issue with
    this design, but I've yet to discover a satisfactory solution. Any ideas
    graciously accepted!
    2. I wonder if that scroller speed issue is based on a slow connection
    or something? It's quite fast on several machines I've used for testing
    (although I have not tested on a Mac). Could you take another look and see
    if it is still so slow on your system, please, or if it was some sort of
    Internet bottle-up? I'd love to know your OS and browser as well!

    Thanks again to all! Today I head back in to adjust the color of the text
    that appears below the egg... now that the background color has been
    changed, that text doesn't have enough contrast to be easily readable.

    ~ Bruce



    Bruce Cirrinone Guest

  8. #7

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    Exact Link, please!
    Eleanor
    "Bruce Cirrinone" <mrbrucec@removeme.hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bhhgv3$ee6$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > Eleanor,
    >
    > I used LEVELS and CURVES, which I'd never experimented with before! Jim
    > Babbage offered a lot of insight, and I decided to take his course on
    > Community MX ($2) to learn more. Frankly, it was worth it, as your
    comment
    > proves! Thank you!
    >
    > ~ Bruce
    >
    > "E. T. Culling" <etcetc@notatcrcwnet.com> wrote in message
    > news:bhhf31$ccd$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > > So, exactly how did you improve the parrot's photos so much? They look
    > > great! Eleanor
    > > "Bruce Cirrinone" <mrbrucec@removeme.hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:bhhdd0$agf$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > > > As a result of a huge number of helpful responses, I've reworked
    quite
    > a
    > > > bit of my latest site: [url]http://www.partyparrots.com[/url].
    > > >
    > > > I would appreciate comments on the design, CSS, etc. I've improved a
    > > number
    > > > of underexposed photographs on the Troupe page and on the Zsa Zsa page
    > > based
    > > > specifically on what I learned here!
    > > >
    > > > I would like to express my appreciation to Darrel, Ilya Razmanov, Sam
    > > > Poikail, Eleanor Culling, Craig Hartel, and Jim Babbage (from this
    > > > newsgroup) for taking the time to provide me with their opinions and
    > > > expertise. Over at Project VII, Karen, Art Stump, John T, Cat,
    Katsuey,
    > > > Nadia, Rainer Bilek, and David Powers all contributed to what I feel
    is
    > a
    > > > substantially improved site.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks to all!
    > > >
    > > > Warm regards,
    > > > ~ Bruce
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >

    E. T. Culling Guest

  9. #8

    Default Re: New & Improved -- Site Check

    My, my, my... anyhow, with the caveat that I neither work for nor benefit
    financially from anything to do with this site, the "Exact Link" is:
    [url]http://www.communitymx.com/abstract.cfm?cid=EC38D959CB473B1B[/url]

    ~ Bruce

    "E. T. Culling" <etcetc@notatcrcwnet.com> wrote in message
    news:bhjgqm$brv$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > Exact Link, please!
    > Eleanor
    > "Bruce Cirrinone" <mrbrucec@removeme.hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:bhhgv3$ee6$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > > Eleanor,
    > >
    > > I used LEVELS and CURVES, which I'd never experimented with before! Jim
    > > Babbage offered a lot of insight, and I decided to take his course on
    > > Community MX ($2) to learn more. Frankly, it was worth it, as your
    > comment
    > > proves! Thank you!
    > >
    > > ~ Bruce
    > >
    > > "E. T. Culling" <etcetc@notatcrcwnet.com> wrote in message
    > > news:bhhf31$ccd$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > > > So, exactly how did you improve the parrot's photos so much? They look
    > > > great! Eleanor
    > > > "Bruce Cirrinone" <mrbrucec@removeme.hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > news:bhhdd0$agf$1@forums.macromedia.com...
    > > > > As a result of a huge number of helpful responses, I've reworked
    > quite
    > > a
    > > > > bit of my latest site: [url]http://www.partyparrots.com[/url].
    > > > >
    > > > > I would appreciate comments on the design, CSS, etc. I've improved a
    > > > number
    > > > > of underexposed photographs on the Troupe page and on the Zsa Zsa
    page
    > > > based
    > > > > specifically on what I learned here!
    > > > >
    > > > > I would like to express my appreciation to Darrel, Ilya Razmanov,
    Sam
    > > > > Poikail, Eleanor Culling, Craig Hartel, and Jim Babbage (from this
    > > > > newsgroup) for taking the time to provide me with their opinions and
    > > > > expertise. Over at Project VII, Karen, Art Stump, John T, Cat,
    > Katsuey,
    > > > > Nadia, Rainer Bilek, and David Powers all contributed to what I feel
    > is
    > > a
    > > > > substantially improved site.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks to all!
    > > > >
    > > > > Warm regards,
    > > > > ~ Bruce
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >

    Bruce Cirrinone Guest

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