New Guy Help With Blurry Images

[Ilya Razmanov]

"Jim Babbage - CMX" <jbabbage@nms123.ca> wrote in message
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> If you resample a graphic from 72ppi to 300ppi, what you will get will be
> pretty lousy results. All Fireworks (or Photoshop, for that matter), can

do

> in order to add the data needed for the higher res file, is guess at
> (interpolate) what the needed data (extra pixels) should be.
>
> There are some new software utilities out there that are designed to

handle

> this kind of resampling process, but FW or Photoshop won't do an amazing

job

> on their own.

According to my personal experience, those "new software utilities" won't do
amazing job as well. Unfortunately, if the information is not in the source
image, there is no way to reconstruct it.

About the only thing that may help a little would be applying some
sharpening after scaling up.

Ilyich.
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[mdumka webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Hello,

I am very new to creating graphics for print. My problem is I am a Fireworks user for web design and do not know many other programs.

I have to create a weekly ad to display in the local papers but the images I have to work with display kind of blurry or pixelated, I am guessing that thes images are like this becuase they are created for the web so they have a low resolution, but this is the only resource I have for these images and when I place them into my document they look blurry.

I have cranked my document up to 300 psi and every thing looks good except the pictures. Does anyone have any ideas? I do have acces to Freehand 10 if that helps.

Thanks

Mike

[mdumka webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Hello,

I am very new to creating graphics for print. My problem is I am a Fireworks user for web design and do not know many other programs.

I have to create a weekly ad to display in the local papers but the images I have to work with display kind of blurry or pixelated, I am guessing that thes images are like this becuase they are created for the web so they have a low resolution, but this is the only resource I have for these images and when I place them into my document they look blurry.

I have cranked my document up to 300 psi and every thing looks good except the pictures. Does anyone have any ideas? I do have acces to Freehand 10 if that helps.

Thanks

Mike

[Chester Harold]

"mdumka" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I am very new to creating graphics for print. My problem is I am a

Fireworks user for web design and do not know many other programs.

You probably *can* use FW for print, but it isn't the best choice.

> I have to create a weekly ad to display in the local papers but the images

I have to work with display kind of blurry or pixelated, I am guessing that
thes images are like this becuase they are created for the web so they have
a low resolution, but this is the only resource I have for these images and
when I place them into my document they look blurry.

They are probably at 72 pixels per inch. When you say you "place them in
your document" which doc do you mean? Program? Version? OS? Hardware?

> I have cranked my document up to 300 psi and every thing looks good except

the pictures. Does anyone have any ideas? I do have acces to Freehand 10 if
that helps.

You don't need a tire pump to work with your graphics. That will give you
PSI, and maybe that is part of the problem. 8^D You probably mean DPI, and
300 might produce acceptable results on some printers, it depends on where
you are getting the results. Usually 600 DPI, possibly more, is for print
quality images.

Let us know if we can give you more input. You might want to check out the
Freehand forum, too.

Chet

>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
>

[Elliott-Fay webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

If you are going to use anything for print it must be high resolution (266 dpi for news print and 300 dpi for offset). Fireworks I believe creates graphics with vector tools and then saves them as raster images. You could probably copy/paste or export/import them out of Fireworks to FH. However you are much better off creating you work in FH and then repurposing it for web in Fireworks. I believe this is MM's workflow as well as Abode's.

When you turn up the resolution in Fireworks all that does is save created objects in FW at higher resolution, but image that are imported remain low. Once an image has been scanned you cannot increase the resolution detail, so it is important to scan at high resolutions and the down sample the image for web use.

Mark
G4 400 MHz
384 MB RAM

[Jim Babbage - CMX]

If you resample a graphic from 72ppi to 300ppi, what you will get will be
pretty lousy results. All Fireworks (or Photoshop, for that matter), can do
in order to add the data needed for the higher res file, is guess at
(interpolate) what the needed data (extra pixels) should be.

There are some new software utilities out there that are designed to handle
this kind of resampling process, but FW or Photoshop won't do an amazing job
on their own.

Is it possible for you to rescan the original (not the web graphic) artwork
at a higher resolution? This will give you the pixel data you need for
print.

As mentioned in an earlier thread, keep in mind that FW was never designed
to work for print graphics. There is no option to view images or save them
as CMYK files.

HTH


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"mdumka" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:bkvm8f$gj7$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> Hello,
>
> I am very new to creating graphics for print. My problem is I am a

Fireworks user for web design and do not know many other programs.

>
> I have to create a weekly ad to display in the local papers but the images

I have to work with display kind of blurry or pixelated, I am guessing that
thes images are like this becuase they are created for the web so they have
a low resolution, but this is the only resource I have for these images and
when I place them into my document they look blurry.

>
> I have cranked my document up to 300 psi and every thing looks good except

the pictures. Does anyone have any ideas? I do have acces to Freehand 10 if
that helps.

>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
>

[Brian Pylant]

"mdumka" [email]webforumsuser@macromedia.com[/email] wrote:

> I have cranked my document up to 300 psi

Watch out or you'll explode those tires...
8^)

Seriously, it's PPI (pixels per inch) -- some people may erroneously
refer to it as DPI (dots per inch), which is technically wrong but they
are referring to the same thing.

Brian

[Odysseus]

Brian Pylant wrote:

>
> "mdumka" [email]webforumsuser@macromedia.com[/email] wrote:
>

> > I have cranked my document up to 300 psi

>
> Watch out or you'll explode those tires...
> 8^)
>
> Seriously, it's PPI (pixels per inch) -- some people may erroneously
> refer to it as DPI (dots per inch), which is technically wrong but they
> are referring to the same thing.
>

And if we want to get *really* persnickety, we should talk about
"addressibility" rather than "resolution" -- but just about nobody
does IRL.

--Odysseus

[Elliott-Fay webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

You are right! dpi refers to a printer's resolution while ppi refers to an image's resolution.

Mark
G4 400 MHz
384 MB RAM

[Danny Whitehead]

Brian Pylant wrote:

> Seriously, it's PPI (pixels per inch) -- some people may erroneously
> refer to it as DPI (dots per inch), which is technically wrong but
> they are referring to the same thing.

And to get really pedantic...

There is no 'document resolution' setting as such in Freehand - only
*printer* resolution, which could accurately be measured in dpi.

Of course, the original poster could have been referring to either the
image size in Photoshop, FHMX's raster effects settings, or
tyre/dinghy/life-vest pressure.

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Danny