New to mac, not to UNIX. Questions regarding x11 installation

[Jack Mackrel]

Hello folks,

Please forgive the "newbieness" of my questions: I just bought my
first mac tonight. I am a pretty seasoned linux user and I want to
install X on my machine so that I can program. I see that supposedly
os x comes with gcc, but I can't find it nor have I been able to
process standard make (gmake) files. I installed x11 (the "beta"
version) from the apple site, but it has been a black box. When I
open terminals, for example, I keep getting the BSD terminal. How do
I open a terminal specific to x11 so that I can begin to install all
the good unix-based programs that I love?

Thanks,

Joel Eaves

[Miro Jurisic]

In article <338cb633.0309192138.37b6294c@posting.google.com >,
[email]joeleaves@hotmail.com[/email] (Jack Mackrel) wrote:

> Please forgive the "newbieness" of my questions: I just bought my
> first mac tonight. I am a pretty seasoned linux user and I want to
> install X on my machine so that I can program. I see that supposedly
> os x comes with gcc, but I can't find it nor have I been able to
> process standard make (gmake) files.

Install Apple Developer Tools, the installer is either on your disk (if you got
a new machine) or downloadable from developer.apple.com

> I installed x11 (the "beta"
> version) from the apple site, but it has been a black box. When I
> open terminals, for example, I keep getting the BSD terminal. How do
> I open a terminal specific to x11 so that I can begin to install all
> the good unix-based programs that I love?

Run xterm from the terminal, or add xterm to your ~/.xinitrc

hth

meeroh

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[Ken Sodemann]

In article <macdev-103CC8.01414720092003@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
Miro Jurisic <macdev@meeroh.org> wrote:

> In article <338cb633.0309192138.37b6294c@posting.google.com >,
> [email]joeleaves@hotmail.com[/email] (Jack Mackrel) wrote:
>

> > Please forgive the "newbieness" of my questions: I just bought my
> > first mac tonight. I am a pretty seasoned linux user and I want to
> > install X on my machine so that I can program. I see that supposedly
> > os x comes with gcc, but I can't find it nor have I been able to
> > process standard make (gmake) files.

>
> Install Apple Developer Tools, the installer is either on your disk (if you
> got
> a new machine) or downloadable from developer.apple.com

You may also want to look at installing fink:
[url]http://fink.sourceforge.net/[/url]

Have a look at the website for the details.

--
Ken Sodemann
[email]stuffle@mac.com[/email]
[url]http://webpages.charter.net/stuffle[/url]

[Dave Seaman]

On 19 Sep 2003 22:38:37 -0700, Jack Mackrel wrote:

> Hello folks,

> Please forgive the "newbieness" of my questions: I just bought my
> first mac tonight. I am a pretty seasoned linux user and I want to
> install X on my machine so that I can program. I see that supposedly
> os x comes with gcc, but I can't find it nor have I been able to
> process standard make (gmake) files. I installed x11 (the "beta"
> version) from the apple site, but it has been a black box. When I
> open terminals, for example, I keep getting the BSD terminal. How do
> I open a terminal specific to x11 so that I can begin to install all
> the good unix-based programs that I love?

Look in /Applications/Installers for the developer tools installer.

And I second the motion to check out fink.sf.net for Unix and X11 apps.

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Dave Seaman
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[Alan Gauld]

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 07:56:49 -0500, Ken Sodemann
<stuffle@charter.net> wrote:

> > > first mac tonight. I am a pretty seasoned linux user and I want to
> > > install X on my machine so that I can program.

You don't need X on the machine to program Apple apps - they
don't use X. But if you want to program standard X apps then
obviously you do... The Apple X server is IMHO better than the
standard opensource version and is also free, but it seems much
better integrated with the Mac GUI. Its on the Apple download
site.

> > > os x comes with gcc, but I can't find it nor have I been able to
> > > process standard make (gmake) files.

You need to install the developer tools which should come on a CD
with the OS unless you got an iBook (or iMac?) in which case you
need to ask Apple to send the CD (Or maybe you can download them,
but it will take a while!) for which they charge about $10.

Alan G.
Author of the Learn to Program website
[url]http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld[/url]

[Uli Kusterer]

In article <3f6c8553.68188509@news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
[email]alan.gauld@btinternet.com[/email] (Alan Gauld) wrote:

> You need to install the developer tools which should come on a CD
> with the OS unless you got an iBook (or iMac?) in which case you
> need to ask Apple to send the CD (Or maybe you can download them,
> but it will take a while!) for which they charge about $10.

On an iBook, you'll find a version of the dev tools installer in
/Applications/Installers/ that you can run to get gcc, make (which
actually is GNU make), and some other nifty thingies.

Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
[url]http://www.zathras.de[/url]