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I guess you use a tripod and shutter priority, my kodak dx 4690 has ISO upto 800 but would like an idea of what ISO setting and shutter speed l should choose please. I know its trial and error but assume l am an idiot and need a place to start.... ANY HELP APPRECIATED -- Stephen Hardy ICQ/Email com +61 (0) 422780790 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.538 / Virus Database: 333 - Release Date: 11/10/2003...

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    Default Night shots of moon settings, help please

    I guess you use a tripod and shutter priority, my kodak dx 4690 has ISO upto
    800 but would like an idea of what ISO setting and shutter speed l should
    choose please. I know its trial and error but assume l am an idiot and need
    a place to start.... ANY HELP APPRECIATED

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    Default Re: Night shots of moon settings, help please

    Ok.. basically, no you don't use shutter priority. Ideally you would have a
    better digital camera in the first place as the lens isn't particularly good
    as far as telephoto goes... but assuming you can do manual exposures on the
    kodak, you'd be better off doing that, as the metering on the camera would
    try to evaluate the entire frame, not just the moon and it would grossly
    overexpose the moon. You should just about be able to hand hold a photo of
    the moon at night, even at ISO 100 because it is virtually as bright as
    daylight on earth. But as for the actual exposure, you'd have to experiment
    with the manual settings to get it just right.

    "Stephen Hardy" <com> wrote in message
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    In article <comindico.com.au>, "Stephen Hardy" <com> wrote: 

    the moon is fairly bright object. the 'sunny 16 rule' is a good start. i've
    had best results using my 10D with ISO100, f11, 1/90sec
    Obake Guest

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    "Stephen Hardy" <com> wrote in message
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    The best time to photograph any dark sky object is during it's passing of
    the Zenith. Although not every object will obviously pass this point, that
    is the clearest point in the night sky and the atmosphere deteriorates from
    this point down to the horizon. The Zenith is an arbitrary point directly
    above the spot you are standing. The Nadir is the point directly below you.

    Atmosphere does indeed play a role in the quality of your images. The closer
    any object is to the horizon, the dirtier the air and more motion in the air
    mass. Even if you know the exposure, the air mass is of such poor quality it
    makes no sense to shoot the object near the horizon.

    The motion of the moon will become apparent on your 35mm format if you
    shoot un-guided for longer than;
    50mm = 12secs with image size = 0.45mm
    100mm = 6secs with image size = 0.9mm
    200mm = 3secs with image size = 1.8mm
    500mm = 1sec with image size = 4.5mm
    This isn't about film speed or reciprocity. It's about image size on any
    given piece of glass or format. Guiding allows longer shutter speeds
    obviously.

    The Sunny F/16 rule does not apply to lunar photography. An example is using
    800 ISO rated film. Your exposure would be f/16 at:
    Full Moon = 1/500
    Gibbous = 1/250
    First Qtr = 1/125
    etc.
    As you can see, the sunny f/16 rule never appears. This also has nothing to
    do with eclipses. Eclipses are shadow events and change rapidly as the
    eclipse advances. Spot metering provides the only assurance.

    Here are three of the leading astrophotographer's websites for those wishing
    to read further;

    Charles Vaughn at http://www.aa6g.org/astro.html who sleeps in his truck
    during the long nights.
    Jerry Lodriguss at http://www.astropix.com/INDEX.HTM A Detroit news
    photographer by day.
    And, everyone's favorite Jack Newton at http://www.jacknewton.com/ World
    renowned. His collaboration with Terrence inson on the book "Splendors
    of the Universe; A Practical Guide To Photographing The Night Sky" is one of
    the best books on the subject.


    k Guest

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    Default Re: Night shots of moon settings, help please

    In article <3fb35acd$0$13681$optusnet.com.au>, Obake says... 
    >
    >the moon is fairly bright object. the 'sunny 16 rule' is a good start. i've
    >had best results using my 10D with ISO100, f11, 1/90sec[/ref]

    "Sunny 11" at full moon is pretty typical, which is born out well with your
    results :).

    Andrew Guest

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