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[Fairfaxsimon]

Is there anyway to get linux to boot up to a commandline without
having to login? I am currently using RedHat 9.0, but I will switch if
I can't do it in that distro.

[Alan Connor]

On 11 Sep 2003 09:22:49 -0700, Fairfaxsimon <gbtmud@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Is there anyway to get linux to boot up to a commandline without
> having to login? I am currently using RedHat 9.0, but I will switch if
> I can't do it in that distro.

I don't believe any UNIX/linux will do that.

Why would you WANT to?

Alan C


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[Chris Cox]

Alan Connor wrote:

> On 11 Sep 2003 09:22:49 -0700, Fairfaxsimon <gbtmud@hotmail.com> wrote:
>

>>
>>Is there anyway to get linux to boot up to a commandline without
>>having to login? I am currently using RedHat 9.0, but I will switch if
>>I can't do it in that distro.

>
>
>
> I don't believe any UNIX/linux will do that.

Why not? KNOPPIX does just that on its suborindate
virtual consoles.

>
> Why would you WANT to?

Because you can. Not everyone uses a computer in the same way.
That's the beauty of Unix/Linux. Very flexible (esp. Linux).

[Chris Cox]

Fairfaxsimon wrote:

> Is there anyway to get linux to boot up to a commandline without
> having to login? I am currently using RedHat 9.0, but I will switch if
> I can't do it in that distro.

Spawn a shell instead of mingetty on your virtual consoles
inside of /etc/inittab.

[Alan Connor]

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:13:59 -0500, Chris Cox <ccox_nopenotthis@airmail.net> wrote:

>
>
> Fairfaxsimon wrote:

>> Is there anyway to get linux to boot up to a commandline without
>> having to login? I am currently using RedHat 9.0, but I will switch if
>> I can't do it in that distro.

>
> Spawn a shell instead of mingetty on your virtual consoles
> inside of /etc/inittab.
>

I was thinking he meant NOW, Chris, not after logging in and editing
/etc/inittab.

I wonder where all the security paranoids are? This is the sort of thing
they usually freak over :-)


Alan C


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[Bill Unruh]

Alan Connor <alanconnor@earthlink.net> writes:

]On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:13:59 -0500, Chris Cox <ccox_nopenotthis@airmail.net> wrote:
]>
]>
]> Fairfaxsimon wrote:
]>> Is there anyway to get linux to boot up to a commandline without
]>> having to login? I am currently using RedHat 9.0, but I will switch if
]>> I can't do it in that distro.

Not sure what you mean.
a)Runlevel 3 puts you into commandline ( edit /etc/inittab and replace
the 5 by3)
or bootup with
linux 3
at the bootup LILO prompt (or hit esc when the lilo selection screen
comes up and type in linux 3 or whatever the name of your kernel is)
b) Or do you mean it is supposed to acome up already logged in as some
user?



]>
]> Spawn a shell instead of mingetty on your virtual consoles
]> inside of /etc/inittab.
]>


]I was thinking he meant NOW, Chris, not after logging in and editing
]/etc/inittab.

]I wonder where all the security paranoids are? This is the sort of thing

[Alan Connor]

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:52:01 +0000 (UTC), Bill Unruh <unruh@string.physics.ubc.ca> wrote:

>
>
> Alan Connor <alanconnor@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> ]On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:13:59 -0500, Chris Cox <ccox_nopenotthis@airmail.net> wrote:
> ]>
> ]>
> ]> Fairfaxsimon wrote:
> ]>> Is there anyway to get linux to boot up to a commandline without
> ]>> having to login? I am currently using RedHat 9.0, but I will switch if
> ]>> I can't do it in that distro.
>
> Not sure what you mean.
> a)Runlevel 3 puts you into commandline ( edit /etc/inittab and replace
> the 5 by3)
> or bootup with
> linux 3
> at the bootup LILO prompt

Tried that on Debian: Just got normal bootup.

(or hit esc when the lilo selection screen

> comes up and type in linux 3 or whatever the name of your kernel is)
> b) Or do you mean it is supposed to acome up already logged in as some
> user?
>
>

I think Chris had it right. He just wants a shell prompt at bootup, no login.


Sounds interesting. I am going to set up one of the OSs on another partition
to do that.



Alan C


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[Keith Keller]

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On 2003-09-11, Fairfaxsimon <gbtmud@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Is there anyway to get linux to boot up to a commandline without
> having to login? I am currently using RedHat 9.0, but I will switch if
> I can't do it in that distro.

Why do you want to do this?

--keith

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[Laurel Amberdine]

On 11 Sep 2003 09:22:49 -0700, Fairfaxsimon <gbtmud@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Is there anyway to get linux to boot up to a commandline without
> having to login? I am currently using RedHat 9.0, but I will switch if
> I can't do it in that distro.

Pass init=/bin/sh to the kernel on boot. (The filesystem will be mounted
read-only.) This works on SuSE 8.1. I haven't tested it on anything
else.


-Laurel

[Nico Kadel-Garcia]

Chris Cox wrote:

> Fairfaxsimon wrote:
>

>> Is there anyway to get linux to boot up to a commandline without
>> having to login? I am currently using RedHat 9.0, but I will switch if
>> I can't do it in that distro.

>
>
> Spawn a shell instead of mingetty on your virtual consoles
> inside of /etc/inittab.
>

Bingo. This is popular in learning environments, especially where the
shell that is started is a restrictive customer interactive program
(kind of like a Linux cash register or airport kiosk setup).

[Edgar Giese]

Hi,

Fairfaxsimon schrieb:

> Is there anyway to get linux to boot up to a commandline without
> having to login? I am currently using RedHat 9.0, but I will switch if
> I can't do it in that distro.

I did it for my "DVD-Player" with SuSE 8.1. But i think it would
work with any distro.

I edit inittab:

# getty-programs for the normal runlevels
# <id>:<runlevels>:<action>:<process>
# The "id" field MUST be the same as the last
# characters of the device (after "tty").
1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty --noclear tty1
2:3:respawn:/bin/bash -login -c "env HOME=/root (no
linebread)/usr/X11R6/bin/startx -- -layout tv"
3:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty3
4:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty4
5:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty5
6:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty6
#
#S0:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L 9600 ttyS0 vt102

Starting the xserver is because of running xine and so one. It
starts with special layout for output to tv.

Edgar

[Edgar Giese]

Excuse me,

another way in inittab is like this:

#2:3:respawn:/bin/bash -login >/dev/tty2 2>&1 </dev/tty2


Edgar Giese schrieb:

> Hi,
>
> Fairfaxsimon schrieb:
>

>> Is there anyway to get linux to boot up to a commandline without
>> having to login? I am currently using RedHat 9.0, but I will switch if
>> I can't do it in that distro.

>
>
> I did it for my "DVD-Player" with SuSE 8.1. But i think it would work
> with any distro.
>
> I edit inittab:
>
> # getty-programs for the normal runlevels
> # <id>:<runlevels>:<action>:<process>
> # The "id" field MUST be the same as the last
> # characters of the device (after "tty").
> 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty --noclear tty1
> 2:3:respawn:/bin/bash -login -c "env HOME=/root (no
> linebreak)/usr/X11R6/bin/startx -- -layout tv"
> 3:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty3
> 4:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty4
> 5:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty5
> 6:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty6
> #
> #S0:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L 9600 ttyS0 vt102
>
> Starting the xserver is because of running xine and so on. It starts
> with special layout for output to tv.
>
> Edgar
>

[Alan Connor]

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:19:05 -0700, Steve W <Steven.Work@uvm.edu> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:25:45 -0700, Keith Keller
><kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
>

>>On 2003-09-11, Fairfaxsimon <gbtmud@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>> Is there anyway to get linux to boot up to a commandline without
>>> having to login? I am currently using RedHat 9.0, but I will switch if
>>> I can't do it in that distro.

>>
>>Why do you want to do this?
>>
>>--keith

>
> Why do you want to know why he wants to do this?
>
> I like seeing this kind of technical reply. Really.
>
> -Steve
>

So do I. That doesn't preclude being curious about his motives.

These can often be as instructional as the technical details.

"how" is not much use without "why", is it?


Alan C

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[Steve W]

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:25:45 -0700, Keith Keller
<kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:

>On 2003-09-11, Fairfaxsimon <gbtmud@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Is there anyway to get linux to boot up to a commandline without
>> having to login? I am currently using RedHat 9.0, but I will switch if
>> I can't do it in that distro.

>
>Why do you want to do this?
>
>--keith

Why do you want to know why he wants to do this?

I like seeing this kind of technical reply. Really.

-Steve

[Keith Keller]

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On 2003-09-12, Steve W <Steven.Work@uvm.edu> wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:25:45 -0700, Keith Keller
><kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
>

>>On 2003-09-11, Fairfaxsimon <gbtmud@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>> Is there anyway to get linux to boot up to a commandline without
>>> having to login? I am currently using RedHat 9.0, but I will switch if
>>> I can't do it in that distro.

>>
>>Why do you want to do this?

>
> Why do you want to know why he wants to do this?

Why do you want to know why I want to know why he wants to do this?

> I like seeing this kind of technical reply. Really.

<aol>
Me too!
</aol>

If you must know, it's because maybe he's asking an X-Y question, where
he's asking X because he thinks it'll accomplish Y, when maybe there's
a better way to solve Y without doing X. But perhaps the OP has gotten
his answer and no longer cares about the thread.

--keith

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