object page assciation

[abeall]

This is a simple question, but I can't seem to figure it out myself:

How do you know/control the association of objects to pages? In other words,
how do you know what page an object is on(technically speaking)? If I select a
page and attempt to delete it, it will tell me if there are objects on the
page. If I move the page it will move the objects associated with it. The
problem is, whenever I have more than one page, I always end up with a mess of
objects associated with pages they are nowhere near. How do I even know when
I'm creating an object what page it will be "on"?

Hope that makes sense.
TIA

[Judy Arndt]

When you draw an object on a page it associates the the currently active
page. Are you working with the Preferences > Document > 'Changing view sets
the active page' and 'Using tools sets active page' checked?

To find all objects on current page, unlock and show all layers. Select All
(Cmd-A) will select all objects on the current page.

Judy Arndt


abeall wrote:

> How do you know/control the association of objects to pages? In other words,
> how do you know what page an object is on(technically speaking)? If I select a
> page and attempt to delete it, it will tell me if there are objects on the
> page. If I move the page it will move the objects associated with it. The
> problem is, whenever I have more than one page, I always end up with a mess of
> objects associated with pages they are nowhere near. How do I even know when
> I'm creating an object what page it will be "on"?

[abeall]

yes; both mentioned options are active. Could you explain what exactly they
mean? What do you mean by "active page"? As selected in the Document panel?
Suppose I wanted to move an object from one page to anther, how do I do this?
If I select the object it will set the active page in the document panel to
whatever page it is on, but if(while object is selected) I click on a different
page in the doc panel, it does not appear to move the object because as soon as
i deselect and re-select it goes back to the original page.

[Judy Arndt]

abeall wrote:

> yes; both mentioned options are active. Could you explain what exactly they
> mean? What do you mean by "active page"? As selected in the Document panel?

Yes. The page number of active page will show in the status bar at the
bottom of window. It will also be highlighted in the Document panel.

> Suppose I wanted to move an object from one page to anther, how do I do this?

Cut from one page. Move to the target page using the page selector in the
status bar. Paste.

Judy Arndt

[abeall]

Ah, I must have been mistaken, selecting objects than navigating via the
Document panel does indeed move objects to different pages, much like using the
layer panel.

> Cut from one page. Move to the target page using the page selector in the
> status bar. Paste.

This reminds me of another recurring problem: how do you paste-in-place? ie
the pasted objects resides in the EXACT same position as the original object?
Reason I would want to do this is so I can be assured to objects are align
properly. The other option would be if I can align one object to another, not
two objects to each other. ie object A is aligned according to object B, and
object B does not move or anything.

[abeall]

ALSO:
an object has an X,Y coordinates, does it have a 'degrees' property somewhere to indicate the angle it is at?

[Judy Arndt]

abeall wrote:

> This reminds me of another recurring problem: how do you paste-in-place? ie
> the pasted objects resides in the EXACT same position as the original object?

Cut or copy the object. Select an object and use Paste in Front and Paste
Behind. Note that this pastes to the same _pasteboard coordinates_ as the
object that was copied or cut, so it does not paste to the equivalent
position on a different page.

> Reason I would want to do this is so I can be assured to objects are align
> properly. The other option would be if I can align one object to another, not
> two objects to each other. ie object A is aligned according to object B, and
> object B does not move or anything.

Lock one object. Select both objects. Align. Unlock the locked object.

You can use keyboard shortcuts or toolbar icons for all of these operations.

Judy Arndt

[Judy Arndt]

abeall wrote:

> an object has an X,Y coordinates, does it have a 'degrees' property somewhere
> to indicate the angle it is at?

FH should have this feature built in. Get Michael Slomski's Angle Xtra. You
can find it on Ian Kelleigh's site, FreeHandSouce.com. Unfortunately the
site seems to be down at the moment.
[url]http://www.freehandsource.com[/url]

If you open the Info Toolbar, it will give you a readout of the angle during
rotation and drawing with line tool.

Judy Arndt

[abeall]

> Lock one object. Select both objects. Align. Unlock the locked object.

Nice. Now how does one lock a particular object? Or did you simply mean lock the layer it's on?
Thanks!

[Judy Arndt]

abeall wrote:

>> Lock one object. Select both objects. Align. Unlock the locked object.

>
> Nice. Now how does one lock a particular object? Or did you simply mean lock
> the layer it's on?

Modify > Lock. Modify > Unlock. I use the keyboard shortcuts.

If you leave the info toolbar open, there's a lock status icon which
displays the lock status for the selected object.

Judy Arndt

[Bill]

Aball,
You can "paste-in-place" by selecting any other object in the document
and using the 'Paste in Front' or the 'Place Behind' command. This
preserves the exact coordinates of the pasted object. Personally, I like
to use custom toolbar buttons for those operations.

--
Bill
FHMX/Win98/Athlon2500+/512M

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 01:15:43 +0000 (UTC), abeall
<webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

....

> This reminds me of another recurring problem: how do you
> paste-in-place? ie
> the pasted objects resides in the EXACT same position as the original
> object?
> Reason I would want to do this is so I can be assured to objects are
> align
> properly. The other option would be if I can align one object to
> another, not
> two objects to each other. ie object A is aligned according to object B,
> and
> object B does not move or anything.
>

[Bill]

Seems Judy just told you about that, though. I suppose I ought to finish
reading a thread before I reply to it, eh? ;-}

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:03:50 -0700, Bill
<bill@JAIL.THE.SPAMMERS.stitchandprint.com> wrote:

> Aball,
> You can "paste-in-place" by selecting any other object in the document
> and using the 'Paste in Front' or the 'Place Behind' command. This
> preserves the exact coordinates of the pasted object. Personally, I like
> to use custom toolbar buttons for those operations.
>

--
Bill
FHMX/Win98/Athlon2500+/512M

[abeall]

Haha, no problem bill

Thanks guys, I am golden for now. :-)