Optimizing Coldfusion

[Supra LTD]

ronnie, first off since you failed to read the rules, double posting is against
the rules. I don't know why you double posted, I probably pissed you off with
that sperm comment, haha, although, you are a waste of one.

You are not to smart huh dude? First you say this:

>>>>The order wouldn't matter at certain times. Others

use cfsavecontent becuase they feel it is easier, and faster, but proves to
be
less efficient.

>>Okay, I get you. In which case I would say you need to elaborate and justify

your logic to people when making these tips.

Then you say this:

>>Who thinks cfcontent is 'easier' than using cfset? Why the heck would they

think that? Most beginners never even encounter cfcontent till much later on
in the learning curve, at which point, one would hope, they realise that
cfsavecontent is not an alternative to cfset but a tag in own right with its
own purpose and strengths.

Can you please make up your mind?


Then you say these few things:

>>As another examplle of that, in you response to me you took the time to

point out that in some cases it doesn't matter about the order of items in a
list - why not put that in your 'tip'. You cuold go even further and show
some code the 'non optimised way' and then the 'optimised' code.

>>Simply saying something which

can quite easily read "avoid listPrepend an duse listAppend" is going to
confuse beginners.


Ronnie, my blog is not aimed for coldfusion newbies like yourself, it is aimed
at people that can understand it without even reading half my blog. I have had
alot of good praises from a few people from the Macromedia team already on it.
You seem to be the only one that hates people for posting Coldfusion tips,
opinions, etc.

I never said my blog was aimed for you ronnie, as you can't even understand
it, until I explain it to you, which means you have no say if it is good/bad.

>>As another examplle of that, in you response to me you took the time to

point out that in some cases it doesn't matter about the order of items in a
list - why not put that in your 'tip'. You cuold go even further and show
some code the 'non optimised way' and then the 'optimised' code.

Once again, I am not going to explain the code, it is not aimed for people
that don't understand it like yourself, ronnie, I recommend you look up these
tidbits in the Macromedia livedocs, let me know if you want the URL for it.

>>>>There is no such thing as an identical function/tag in Coldfusion,
>>>>meaning,

nothing in Coldfusion does the same thing.

>>Yes there is - I will leave it as an excercise to you, as its obvious you in

your learning phase, to find where thsi occurs.

Lol, your really funny ronnie, what happened? Did you go through a reference
of all the functions and happen to notice there is nothing identical? HAHA, ok,
so I am the newbie, why won't you tell me the identitical functions then?

Ronnie, your a loser.

[Tetley]

Mate, I have to agree with Ronnie here. You make a post asking for peoples
opinions, you hear something you don't like, so you become insulting. You
call this guy 'a waste of sperm' and a 'loser' and 'not too smart'. All this
because he responded to your post with some feedback.



Wether ronnie is right or wrong (and I think its about 50 / 50 between the
both of you to be honest) doesn't matter - you have succeeded only in
looking like you are very immature and silly by insulting people who respond
to your posts. To react the way you did is, as Ronnie says, very
unprofessional.



About the hints you provided - I see what you are saying but I think they
are not laid out very well. You need a 'hook' - as Ronnie says, you need to
lay the groundwork for why the hint matters or can be useful. You fail to do
this.



About the cfsavecontent - I too do not see why developers would confuse
cfset with cfsaveconetent o ruse them incorrectly. Again, you need to point
out an example of the situation in which a developer may have made this
mistake/decision incorrectly so that you can justify the value of your hint.



After the way you treated a fellow poster, I for one (and I am sure other
posters are here that feel the same) will not be bothering with your little
web page.



Now, bring on the insults and prove us right again.





"Supra LTD" <z3r0eff3ct@aol.com> wrote in message
news:d4j5oa$4i7$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> ronnie, first off since you failed to read the rules, double posting is

against

> the rules. I don't know why you double posted, I probably pissed you off

with

> that sperm comment, haha, although, you are a waste of one.
>
> You are not to smart huh dude? First you say this:
>

> >>>>The order wouldn't matter at certain times. Others

> use cfsavecontent becuase they feel it is easier, and faster, but proves

to

> be
> less efficient.
>

> >>Okay, I get you. In which case I would say you need to elaborate and

justify

> your logic to people when making these tips.
>
> Then you say this:
>

> >>Who thinks cfcontent is 'easier' than using cfset? Why the heck would

they

> think that? Most beginners never even encounter cfcontent till much later

on

> in the learning curve, at which point, one would hope, they realise that
> cfsavecontent is not an alternative to cfset but a tag in own right with

its

> own purpose and strengths.
>
> Can you please make up your mind?
>
>
> Then you say these few things:
>

> >>As another examplle of that, in you response to me you took the time to

> point out that in some cases it doesn't matter about the order of items

in a

> list - why not put that in your 'tip'. You cuold go even further and show
> some code the 'non optimised way' and then the 'optimised' code.
>

> >>Simply saying something which

> can quite easily read "avoid listPrepend an duse listAppend" is going to
> confuse beginners.
>
>
> Ronnie, my blog is not aimed for coldfusion newbies like yourself, it is

aimed

> at people that can understand it without even reading half my blog. I have

had

> alot of good praises from a few people from the Macromedia team already on

it.

> You seem to be the only one that hates people for posting Coldfusion tips,
> opinions, etc.
>
> I never said my blog was aimed for you ronnie, as you can't even

understand

> it, until I explain it to you, which means you have no say if it is

good/bad.

>

> >>As another examplle of that, in you response to me you took the time to

> point out that in some cases it doesn't matter about the order of items

in a

> list - why not put that in your 'tip'. You cuold go even further and show
> some code the 'non optimised way' and then the 'optimised' code.
>
> Once again, I am not going to explain the code, it is not aimed for

people

> that don't understand it like yourself, ronnie, I recommend you look up

these

> tidbits in the Macromedia livedocs, let me know if you want the URL for

it.

>

> >>>>There is no such thing as an identical function/tag in Coldfusion,
> >>>>meaning,

> nothing in Coldfusion does the same thing.
>

> >>Yes there is - I will leave it as an excercise to you, as its obvious

you in

> your learning phase, to find where thsi occurs.
>
> Lol, your really funny ronnie, what happened? Did you go through a

reference

> of all the functions and happen to notice there is nothing identical?

HAHA, ok,

> so I am the newbie, why won't you tell me the identitical functions then?
>
> Ronnie, your a loser.
>

[ronnie]

>>Why are you telling people that adding to the end of a list is an
optimisation they can use when they want to add to the beginning of a list!?

Cheers Mr.Tea Bag (are you from UK?) - I was a little peeved that this
pillock had the nreve to respond to me the way he did. My very first post I
was careful to start off with a "Thanks" to him for the resource - I thuoght
that should set the tone for what i wanted to say so he didn't get all upset
and silly (which he did anyway!)

>>Why are you telling people that adding to the end of a list is an

optimisation they can use when they want to add to the beginning of a list!?

To this he responded by pointing out that in many cases it didn't matter if
the end of a list or the beginning of a list was where you added something -
which I know perfectly well. My point was not about why the code worked, but
about asking "why he was telling people this" - in other words the "hook" or
"why should I read on" intro into his tip.

The rest of my post went on to point out the idea of making his tips more
interesting by saying "WHY" he was advocating a tip and not simply dishing
out some millisecond race he put the code through. It was'nt what he was
saying - it was the way he was presenting it. Why could not he not have
pointed out for beginners that "in some situations addding to the front of a
list or the end of a list does not matter, in these cases here is a handy
optimisation tip ...blah blah blah" - I just thought he could have been
making his point a lot better and clearer.

Again, thanks for coming in and backing me up 'Tea Bag" - this little twit
didn't deserve the pointers. It would only encourage to put more crap like
that up on the internet!

Supra LTD - you need to grow up man, you need to learn how to communicate
your points in the cf world and you need to how to accpept both criticism
and praise. What I told you was correct - your tips come off almost useless
as you dont make a case fo rthem or explain them. Its no good tlling me that
adding to the end of or the front of a list makes no difference in certain
case, you need to be selling that the people looking at your tips. Same with
the second one.

Telling me I am a beginner at coldfusion won't get you anywhere - I am the
one who has successfully published and made money from publishing coldfusion
articles and info - not you. I am the one who has delivered 49 coldfusion
training courses in 5 states, not you. In short, you are the twerp trying to
look like you know what you are doing while I am the one looking on and
laughing.

In short, YOU are the waste of sperm pal



"Tetley" <tetley_kk@vianet.com.au> wrote in message
news:d4kj9d$3ji$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> Mate, I have to agree with Ronnie here. You make a post asking for peoples
> opinions, you hear something you don't like, so you become insulting. You
> call this guy 'a waste of sperm' and a 'loser' and 'not too smart'. All
> this
> because he responded to your post with some feedback.
>
>
>
> Wether ronnie is right or wrong (and I think its about 50 / 50 between the
> both of you to be honest) doesn't matter - you have succeeded only in
> looking like you are very immature and silly by insulting people who
> respond
> to your posts. To react the way you did is, as Ronnie says, very
> unprofessional.
>
>
>
> About the hints you provided - I see what you are saying but I think they
> are not laid out very well. You need a 'hook' - as Ronnie says, you need
> to
> lay the groundwork for why the hint matters or can be useful. You fail to
> do
> this.
>
>
>
> About the cfsavecontent - I too do not see why developers would confuse
> cfset with cfsaveconetent o ruse them incorrectly. Again, you need to
> point
> out an example of the situation in which a developer may have made this
> mistake/decision incorrectly so that you can justify the value of your
> hint.
>
>
>
> After the way you treated a fellow poster, I for one (and I am sure other
> posters are here that feel the same) will not be bothering with your
> little
> web page.
>
>
>
> Now, bring on the insults and prove us right again.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Supra LTD" <z3r0eff3ct@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:d4j5oa$4i7$1@forums.macromedia.com...

>> ronnie, first off since you failed to read the rules, double posting is

> against

>> the rules. I don't know why you double posted, I probably pissed you off

> with

>> that sperm comment, haha, although, you are a waste of one.
>>
>> You are not to smart huh dude? First you say this:
>>

>> >>>>The order wouldn't matter at certain times. Others

>> use cfsavecontent becuase they feel it is easier, and faster, but proves

> to

>> be
>> less efficient.
>>

>> >>Okay, I get you. In which case I would say you need to elaborate and

> justify

>> your logic to people when making these tips.
>>
>> Then you say this:
>>

>> >>Who thinks cfcontent is 'easier' than using cfset? Why the heck would

> they

>> think that? Most beginners never even encounter cfcontent till much
>> later

> on

>> in the learning curve, at which point, one would hope, they realise that
>> cfsavecontent is not an alternative to cfset but a tag in own right with

> its

>> own purpose and strengths.
>>
>> Can you please make up your mind?
>>
>>
>> Then you say these few things:
>>

>> >>As another examplle of that, in you response to me you took the time

>> to
>> point out that in some cases it doesn't matter about the order of items

> in a

>> list - why not put that in your 'tip'. You cuold go even further and
>> show
>> some code the 'non optimised way' and then the 'optimised' code.
>>

>> >>Simply saying something which

>> can quite easily read "avoid listPrepend an duse listAppend" is going to
>> confuse beginners.
>>
>>
>> Ronnie, my blog is not aimed for coldfusion newbies like yourself, it is

> aimed

>> at people that can understand it without even reading half my blog. I
>> have

> had

>> alot of good praises from a few people from the Macromedia team already
>> on

> it.

>> You seem to be the only one that hates people for posting Coldfusion
>> tips,
>> opinions, etc.
>>
>> I never said my blog was aimed for you ronnie, as you can't even

> understand

>> it, until I explain it to you, which means you have no say if it is

> good/bad.

>>

>> >>As another examplle of that, in you response to me you took the time

>> to
>> point out that in some cases it doesn't matter about the order of items

> in a

>> list - why not put that in your 'tip'. You cuold go even further and
>> show
>> some code the 'non optimised way' and then the 'optimised' code.
>>
>> Once again, I am not going to explain the code, it is not aimed for

> people

>> that don't understand it like yourself, ronnie, I recommend you look up

> these

>> tidbits in the Macromedia livedocs, let me know if you want the URL for

> it.

>>

>> >>>>There is no such thing as an identical function/tag in Coldfusion,
>> >>>>meaning,

>> nothing in Coldfusion does the same thing.
>>

>> >>Yes there is - I will leave it as an excercise to you, as its obvious

> you in

>> your learning phase, to find where thsi occurs.
>>
>> Lol, your really funny ronnie, what happened? Did you go through a

> reference

>> of all the functions and happen to notice there is nothing identical?

> HAHA, ok,

>> so I am the newbie, why won't you tell me the identitical functions then?
>>
>> Ronnie, your a loser.
>>

>
>

[Cubensis]

I have to agree with Supra LTD here.

I tried using cfset in my code, instead of using:
<cfsavecontent variable="wiep">plop</cfsavecontent>
I tried this: <cfset wiep = "plop">
and it works great.
I never thought this would be posible in coldfusion :D

As for tips it is realy great to use cfoutput. You can actualy do things like
this:
<cfoutput>#wiep#</cfoutput>
And it displays 'plop' when I run the page, but only after I used that cfset
tag. If I do not define 'wiep' I do not get 'plop', but I get an error :D

[Supra LTD]

You guys are full of ****. Ronnie, I don't care what you did, and what you
accomplished with your boring lonely life, you still haven't given me a list of
identitcal functions in coldfusion. Trying to avoid that eh? I guess you aren't
as good as you try to pretend you are.

I'll be taking this blog down, since some of you here can't even appreciate
the benchmarks.

I can see the confusion between cfsavecontent vs cfset, but this was not to
point out what to use, it was to point out the execution time of each of these.

And I got angry at you ronnie in the first place, becuase you didn't show
respect in your first post at all:

>>Have you only recently

begun using coldfusion ?If so, hold off a while longer till you decide to
give your advice on optimising techniques.

No, I haven't recently started coldfusion, I started coldfusion when 5.0 was
released.

It isn't really respectful, you cannot determine if I just started coldfusion
by looking at 2 benchmarks.

And some of you guys, like Cubinus, come here just add on to the load.

Cubinus, shouldn't you be on a ledge somewhere?

[paross1]

Wow! I don't know what psycho ward Supra LTD escaped from, but I guess that it
takes many different types of people to round out a forum, and I suppose that I
should embrace his emotional rant in the name of diversity.

A few words of unsolicited advice - take a chill-pill or grow some thicker
skin, dude!

Phil

[rmorgan]

Its called "constructive criticism", you got what you asked for.

[Ronnie]

>> >>There is no such thing as an identical function/tag in Coldfusion



I really did not want to respond to this as I felt you were not worth the
bother. However it seems to be important as you are pushing for an answer:



Many tags and methods in coldfusion have duplicate functions - for example,
cfobject and createObject() are functionally equivalent. There are also many
tags that can be used to fulfil the same function. This is not a criticism
of the language (or you, seeing as you take things so personally), it was
just an observation. There you go, you have the answer - so stop going on
about it as it has nothing at all to do with you being a baby and insulting
people who take the time to respond to your posts.

>> I don't care what you did, and what you

accomplished with your boring lonely life



Where the heck do you get your ideas from - you are an absolute nut case! I
have 6 children, a wife, a business full of customers, many of whom are
friends who helped mt get where I am now - where the heck would you possibly
arrive at the conclusion I was lonely, let alone bored?

>> I'll be taking this blog down, since some of you here can't even

appreciate

the benchmarks.





Mate, if you thought your blog was any good you would have left it up. You
clearly can now see that our advice was good advice and, being stubborn,
rather than taking the advice and fixing up your blog, you would prefer to
back down and and stop doing it. Nobody wanted to get in the way of your
blog - we just (initially) wanted to help you make it more useful. That is
why I was very careful to "Tahnk you for the resource' in the opening of my
first post - to mak it very clear that I was interested and that my comments
were aimed at helping not hindering.



Your response to feedback is to insult people in a childish and extremely
rude manner - so you are certainly not the kind of person who should have a
website or blog that lets other communicate with you, you just couldn't hack
it. So in that respect, for the sake of your feelings and those who wish not
to be insulted for trying to help out, it's a good thing you took it down.
How a bloke like you will ever make it in a business that requires you to
work with other people who may have an opinion and pass comment on your
work, well, you just won't survive! Leave it as a hobby pal.

>> And I got angry at you ronnie in the first place, becuase you didn't show

respect in your first post at all:



I said thank You for the resource - I only did that to set the tone as I was
afraid you might take what I had to say the wrong way - you did anyway,
childish.

>> It isn't really respectful, you cannot determine if I just started

coldfusion

by looking at 2 benchmarks.



I know you from other threads.

>> Cubinus, shouldn't you be on a ledge somewhere?

There you go -insulting people again. Mate, all you achieved is looking like
a prat. Which is quite sad as you no doubt started of very well
intentioned - moral of the story : Don't ask if you might not like the
answer!





"Supra LTD" <z3r0eff3ct@aol.com> wrote in message
news:d4lhcs$jdc$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> You guys are full of ****. Ronnie, I don't care what you did, and what you
> accomplished with your boring lonely life, you still haven't given me a

list of

> identitcal functions in coldfusion. Trying to avoid that eh? I guess you

aren't

> as good as you try to pretend you are.
>
> I'll be taking this blog down, since some of you here can't even

appreciate

> the benchmarks.
>
> I can see the confusion between cfsavecontent vs cfset, but this was not

to

> point out what to use, it was to point out the execution time of each of

these.

>
> And I got angry at you ronnie in the first place, becuase you didn't show
> respect in your first post at all:
>

> >>Have you only recently

> begun using coldfusion ?If so, hold off a while longer till you decide to
> give your advice on optimising techniques.
>
> No, I haven't recently started coldfusion, I started coldfusion when 5.0

was

> released.
>
> It isn't really respectful, you cannot determine if I just started

coldfusion

> by looking at 2 benchmarks.
>
> And some of you guys, like Cubinus, come here just add on to the load.
>
> Cubinus, shouldn't you be on a ledge somewhere?
>
>
>

[Tetley]

You genius - I gotta try that!

"Cubensis" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d4lce9$b58$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> I have to agree with Supra LTD here.
>
> I tried using cfset in my code, instead of using:
> <cfsavecontent variable="wiep">plop</cfsavecontent>
> I tried this: <cfset wiep = "plop">
> and it works great.
> I never thought this would be posible in coldfusion :D
>
> As for tips it is realy great to use cfoutput. You can actualy do things

like

> this:
> <cfoutput>#wiep#</cfoutput>
> And it displays 'plop' when I run the page, but only after I used that

cfset

> tag. If I do not define 'wiep' I do not get 'plop', but I get an error :D
>

[ayhanyildiz]

I read some threads of ronnie. He is the one who is saying that coldfusion is
dying, he is the one who doesn't have job and blaming coldfusion. ronnie is
full of s..t man.

Dear Supra, I really appreciate what you are doing. Please don't listen some
loser who doesn't know s..t about coldfusion. And some other mature geeks
responded also very weird. hey mature weirdos: some people are spitting,
throwing dirt to other one and you are telling spit more thow dirt more. why
don't you keep advises for yourself and leave people in peace. what a losers.

[Tetley]

Hey Supra - answering your own posts now - nice one.


"ayhanyildiz" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d4nc4n$93m$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> I read some threads of ronnie. He is the one who is saying that coldfusion

is

> dying, he is the one who doesn't have job and blaming coldfusion. ronnie

is

> full of s..t man.
>
> Dear Supra, I really appreciate what you are doing. Please don't listen

some

> loser who doesn't know s..t about coldfusion. And some other mature geeks
> responded also very weird. hey mature weirdos: some people are spitting,
> throwing dirt to other one and you are telling spit more thow dirt more.

why

> don't you keep advises for yourself and leave people in peace. what a

losers.

>

[ayhanyildiz]

Tetley I don't get what you people are trying to do? Ronnie and you are
speading bullsh.t in this forum. nobody needs your low esteem opinions. what
have done coldfusion to you people? just let you know that; never coldfusion
gave lots jobs. if you knew about coldfusion you would know where coldfusion
is going. who told you to stick with coldfusion. I know asp, asp.net with C#
and PHP and that doesn't make me to say bad things about codfusion. i learned
those too because we have some many customers who are using many different
languages. I can not force them to buy coldfusion or throw former work. if you
were smart enough you would build yourself. if it learning new languages is
problem than that means you are phony and full of sh.t.

this is one of your bullsh.ts:

Read the posts by Ronnie and quite a few others in this forum - a heck of a
lot of person think that cold fusion will be defunct and no longer a viable
technology. There is a pretty strong movement away from cold fusion in the
professional web development world and from what I can see it is because the
industry has a abandoned it so jobs are quite rare and nobody is being very
serious about cold fusion any longer.



Lots of people have dropped it when the Allaire company was bought out, and
recently and even more since this buyout. Look for the 'good bye' threads a
few people have left and look at the reasons the persons have given.



I have the website to do for a while but after this I will be learning ASP
or PHP as I do not want to get left behind with few people left using cold
fusion!



Make sure no advice is taken from people who are bias cold fusion like
volunteers, authors and macromedia staff - they give bad advice and not
interested in your career!



Good luck.

[Tetley]

>>if you knew about coldfusion you would know where coldfusion
is going

I know all about coldfusion and I know it HAS gone! Stragglers don't count.

A lot o fthese guys are full on correct when they say CF is on its last
legs - it not about 'low esteem' (what the heck gave you a weird idea a low
esteem and an opinion on cf - sounds like something the nutty Supra would
say - oh, hang on, you are supra!)



"ayhanyildiz" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d4necv$bus$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> Tetley I don't get what you people are trying to do? Ronnie and you are
> speading bullsh.t in this forum. nobody needs your low esteem opinions.

what

> have done coldfusion to you people? just let you know that; never

coldfusion

> gave lots jobs. if you knew about coldfusion you would know where

coldfusion

> is going. who told you to stick with coldfusion. I know asp, asp.net with

C#

> and PHP and that doesn't make me to say bad things about codfusion. i

learned

> those too because we have some many customers who are using many different
> languages. I can not force them to buy coldfusion or throw former work.

if you

> were smart enough you would build yourself. if it learning new languages

is

> problem than that means you are phony and full of sh.t.
>
> this is one of your bullsh.ts:
>
> Read the posts by Ronnie and quite a few others in this forum - a heck of

a

> lot of person think that cold fusion will be defunct and no longer a

viable

> technology. There is a pretty strong movement away from cold fusion in

the

> professional web development world and from what I can see it is because

the

> industry has a abandoned it so jobs are quite rare and nobody is being

very

> serious about cold fusion any longer.
>
>
>
> Lots of people have dropped it when the Allaire company was bought out,

and

> recently and even more since this buyout. Look for the 'good bye' threads

a

> few people have left and look at the reasons the persons have given.
>
>
>
> I have the website to do for a while but after this I will be learning

ASP

> or PHP as I do not want to get left behind with few people left using

cold

> fusion!
>
>
>
> Make sure no advice is taken from people who are bias cold fusion like
> volunteers, authors and macromedia staff - they give bad advice and not
> interested in your career!
>
>
>
> Good luck.
>
>

[Ronnie]

re;
I know asp, asp.net with C#
and PHP and that doesn't make me to say bad things about codfusion

Exactly -people don't just bad thing becuase they are now doing something
else. So why do you assume that is what others are doing if you have
yourself made the point - people don't just say negative things because they
have learned something else - they usually say it becuase it's true.

I have to say at this pint that you assume a hell of a lot about people you
know nothing about -you think I have no work and that is why I am negative
about CF? Such a fool to assume - if anything, I am negative to cf becuase
there is so much work, but NONE of it in CF. My only CF work in the last 2
years was publishing and mainatining a medium sized govt site - they dumped
cf asthere were no cf developers. (rather, they began to realis ethat th
eonly cf developers around were pretty much all basically web designers with
scripting skills - there were absolutely no cf trained programmers to be
found. this is nearly always the cse with cf adn a contributory reason to
its whole demise.)

re; I can not force them to buy coldfusion or throw former work.

I wish I could force people to use coldfusion - pure heaven if it were a cf
world as far as I am concerned. But its not - cf is gone. Quit living in the
past, man.



"ayhanyildiz" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d4necv$bus$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> Tetley I don't get what you people are trying to do? Ronnie and you are
> speading bullsh.t in this forum. nobody needs your low esteem opinions.
> what
> have done coldfusion to you people? just let you know that; never
> coldfusion
> gave lots jobs. if you knew about coldfusion you would know where
> coldfusion
> is going. who told you to stick with coldfusion. I know asp, asp.net with
> C#
> and PHP and that doesn't make me to say bad things about codfusion. i
> learned
> those too because we have some many customers who are using many different
> languages. I can not force them to buy coldfusion or throw former work.
> if you
> were smart enough you would build yourself. if it learning new languages
> is
> problem than that means you are phony and full of sh.t.
>
> this is one of your bullsh.ts:
>
> Read the posts by Ronnie and quite a few others in this forum - a heck of
> a
> lot of person think that cold fusion will be defunct and no longer a
> viable
> technology. There is a pretty strong movement away from cold fusion in the
> professional web development world and from what I can see it is because
> the
> industry has a abandoned it so jobs are quite rare and nobody is being
> very
> serious about cold fusion any longer.
>
>
>
> Lots of people have dropped it when the Allaire company was bought out,
> and
> recently and even more since this buyout. Look for the 'good bye' threads
> a
> few people have left and look at the reasons the persons have given.
>
>
>
> I have the website to do for a while but after this I will be learning ASP
> or PHP as I do not want to get left behind with few people left using cold
> fusion!
>
>
>
> Make sure no advice is taken from people who are bias cold fusion like
> volunteers, authors and macromedia staff - they give bad advice and not
> interested in your career!
>
>
>
> Good luck.
>
>

[Cubensis]

And some of you guys, like Cubinus, come here just add on to the load.

Cubinus, shouldn't you be on a ledge somewhere?



Hey pal, it is not very funny.
My coding tip actualy works!

As I am so proud of it (and a little bit full of myself) I will post it again:
<cfset wiep="plop">
<cfoutput>#wiep#</cfoutput>

[Steve Grosz]

Kinda a ass aren't ya.... hmmm. Well, if you don't like the answer,
don't ask the question!

Supra LTD wrote:

> You guys are full of ****. Ronnie, I don't care what you did, and what you
> accomplished with your boring lonely life, you still haven't given me a list of
> identitcal functions in coldfusion. Trying to avoid that eh? I guess you aren't
> as good as you try to pretend you are.
>
> I'll be taking this blog down, since some of you here can't even appreciate
> the benchmarks.
>
> I can see the confusion between cfsavecontent vs cfset, but this was not to
> point out what to use, it was to point out the execution time of each of these.
>
> And I got angry at you ronnie in the first place, becuase you didn't show
> respect in your first post at all:
>

> >>Have you only recently

> begun using coldfusion ?If so, hold off a while longer till you decide to
> give your advice on optimising techniques.
>
> No, I haven't recently started coldfusion, I started coldfusion when 5.0 was
> released.
>
> It isn't really respectful, you cannot determine if I just started coldfusion
> by looking at 2 benchmarks.
>
> And some of you guys, like Cubinus, come here just add on to the load.
>
> Cubinus, shouldn't you be on a ledge somewhere?
>
>
>