9.2.2 installer. 2. The 9.2.1 and 9.2.2 installers will only run without trickery on Macs that shipped with at least a G3 processor. It's not that the installers won't recognize your 8500 has been upgraded, it's that they won't recognize an 8500, period. [ref] > Accordingly, the installer will refuse to upgrade 9.1 to 9.2.2. However, > the shareware app you mention (for which I will naturally pay the > shareware fee) will cause the 9.2.2 installer to think that this is a G3 > machine, for the purposes of upgrading the OS.[/ref] It'll cause the installers to run on an 8500, whether or not it's been upgraded to a G3. [ref] > Once 9.2.2 is installed, it would be reasonable to expect the machine to > be about as stable as it was under 9.1.[/ref] Yes, but do be sure to back up your System folder before upgrading, because of course there are no guarantees. [ref] > The first possible gotcha that springs to mind is that the native SCSI > storage has been replaced with a big ATA drive, and an ATA PCI card. > Possible problems with that?[/ref] This shouldn't be a problem. [ref] > The routine drivers (printer, modem, USB card, etc.) will continue to > function normally under 9.2.2?[/ref] The USB card drivers will be updated as part of the 9.2.2 upgrade. You'll have to check with the manufacturers about printer, etc., drivers. -- Mike Rosenberg Macintosh consulting services for NE Florida Tribute to Humphrey Bogart [allowsmilie] => 1 [showsignature] => 0 [ipaddress] => [iconid] => 0 [visible] => 1 [attach] => 0 [infraction] => 0 [reportthreadid] => 0 [isusenetpost] => 1 [msgid] => <1g0yj2u.1svri7014r19rgN%mike@POSTTOGROUP.invalid> [ref] => <3F5BBBC9.6000800@nospam.com> <1g0xjul.6xi1jr1dsha1rN%mike@POSTTOGROUP.invalid> <1g0xkb2.1caeba0qsdy1gN%mike@POSTTOGROUP.invalid> <3F5BFD97.5060303@nospam.com> [htmlstate] => on_nl2br [postusername] => Mike [ip] => mike@POSTTOGROU [isdeleted] => 0 [usergroupid] => [membergroupids] => [displaygroupid] => [password] => [passworddate] => [email] => [styleid] => [parentemail] => [homepage] => [icq] => [aim] => [yahoo] => [msn] => [skype] => [showvbcode] => [showbirthday] => [usertitle] => [customtitle] => [joindate] => [daysprune] => [lastvisit] => [lastactivity] => [lastpost] => [lastpostid] => [posts] => [reputation] => [reputationlevelid] => [timezoneoffset] => [pmpopup] => [avatarid] => [avatarrevision] => [profilepicrevision] => [sigpicrevision] => [options] => [akvbghsfs_optionsfield] => [birthday] => [birthday_search] => [maxposts] => [startofweek] => [referrerid] => [languageid] => [emailstamp] => [threadedmode] => [autosubscribe] => [pmtotal] => [pmunread] => [salt] => [ipoints] => [infractions] => [warnings] => [infractiongroupids] => [infractiongroupid] => [adminoptions] => [profilevisits] => [friendcount] => [friendreqcount] => [vmunreadcount] => [vmmoderatedcount] => [socgroupinvitecount] => [socgroupreqcount] => [pcunreadcount] => [pcmoderatedcount] => [gmmoderatedcount] => [assetposthash] => [fbuserid] => [fbjoindate] => [fbname] => [logintype] => [fbaccesstoken] => [newrepcount] => [vbseo_likes_in] => [vbseo_likes_out] => [vbseo_likes_unread] => [temp] => [field1] => [field2] => [field3] => [field4] => [field5] => [subfolders] => [pmfolders] => [buddylist] => [ignorelist] => [signature] => [searchprefs] => [rank] => [icontitle] => [iconpath] => [avatarpath] => [hascustomavatar] => 0 [avatardateline] => [avwidth] => [avheight] => [edit_userid] => [edit_username] => [edit_dateline] => [edit_reason] => [hashistory] => [pagetext_html] => [hasimages] => [signatureparsed] => [sighasimages] => [sigpic] => [sigpicdateline] => [sigpicwidth] => [sigpicheight] => [postcount] => 5 [islastshown] => [isfirstshown] => [attachments] => [allattachments] => ) --> OS 9.2.2 vs. Upgraded 8500 - Mac Applications & Software

OS 9.2.2 vs. Upgraded 8500 - Mac Applications & Software

Greetings, My bank wants me to upgrade to Quicken 2003 or 2004 but the docs say I've gotta have OS 9.2.2 or higher. I'm using OS 9.1 on my 8500 upgraded to a G3. It's pretty stable so I've been reluctant to bother with an upgrade to OS 9.2.2. I also can't remember if OS 9.2.2 works properly on this machine. Anybody know? Can I "cheat" by sticking with OS 9.1 and swapping in a couple of parts from OS 9.2.2, like CarbonLib or something? I have 9.2.2 on another machine. Thanks in advance, Tim Miller...

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    Default OS 9.2.2 vs. Upgraded 8500

    Greetings,

    My bank wants me to upgrade to Quicken 2003 or 2004 but the docs say
    I've gotta have OS 9.2.2 or higher.

    I'm using OS 9.1 on my 8500 upgraded to a G3. It's pretty stable so I've
    been reluctant to bother with an upgrade to OS 9.2.2. I also can't
    remember if OS 9.2.2 works properly on this machine. Anybody know?

    Can I "cheat" by sticking with OS 9.1 and swapping in a couple of parts
    from OS 9.2.2, like CarbonLib or something? I have 9.2.2 on another machine.


    Thanks in advance,


    Tim Miller

    Timothy Guest

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    Default Re: OS 9.2.2 vs. Upgraded 8500

    Timothy Miller <com> wrote:
     

    You can't simply upgrade past 9.1 at all on a pre-G3 Power Mac, because
    the 9.2.1 upgrade installer will refuse to run on those machines.
    However, you can go up to 9.2.2 on many of those Macs using the
    shareware OS9 Helper:

    http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/16906

    It's likely your 8500 would run properly with 9.2.2, but you can always
    go back to the backup of 9.1 you'll of course make before upgrading.
     

    I don't believe the Quicken installer will run at all with anything
    other than 9.2.2 or OS X.

    --
    Mike Rosenberg

    <http://www.macconsult.com> Macintosh consulting services for NE Florida
    <http://bogart-tribute.net> Tribute to Humphrey Bogart
    Mike Guest

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    Default Re: OS 9.2.2 vs. Upgraded 8500

    Mike Rosenberg <invalid> wrote:
     

    It's actually freeware, not shareware. VersionTracker had it listed
    incorrectly. It costs $10 to use the support forum at Other World
    Computing, though.

    --
    Mike Rosenberg

    <http://www.macconsult.com> Macintosh consulting services for NE Florida
    <http://bogart-tribute.net> Tribute to Humphrey Bogart
    Mike Guest

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    Default Re: OS 9.2.2 vs. Upgraded 8500

    Mike Rosenberg wrote: 
    >[/ref]

    Thanks, Mike. We're almost home.

    If I understand you correctly, the OS 9.2.2 installer will not realize
    that this 8500 has been upgraded to a G3. Accordingly, the installer
    will refuse to upgrade 9.1 to 9.2.2. However, the shareware app you
    mention (for which I will naturally pay the shareware fee) will cause
    the 9.2.2 installer to think that this is a G3 machine, for the purposes
    of upgrading the OS.

    Once 9.2.2 is installed, it would be reasonable to expect the machine to
    be about as stable as it was under 9.1.

    Did I make the right inferences?

    Any gotchas?

    The first possible gotcha that springs to mind is that the native SCSI
    storage has been replaced with a big ATA drive, and an ATA PCI card.
    Possible problems with that?

    The routine drivers (printer, modem, USB card, etc.) will continue to
    function normally under 9.2.2?

    (A small SCSI drive remains, and I suppose it would work as a boot
    drive, if needed, for as long as it lasts.)



    Thanks,


    Tim Miller

    Timothy Guest

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    Default Re: OS 9.2.2 vs. Upgraded 8500

    Timothy Miller <com> wrote:
     

    You're close, but:

    1. You have to upgrade in two steps, first to 9.2.1 and then to 9.2.2,
    as Apple never made a direct 9.1-->9.2.2 installer.

    2. The 9.2.1 and 9.2.2 installers will only run without trickery on Macs
    that shipped with at least a G3 processor. It's not that the installers
    won't recognize your 8500 has been upgraded, it's that they won't
    recognize an 8500, period.
     

    It'll cause the installers to run on an 8500, whether or not it's been
    upgraded to a G3.
     

    Yes, but do be sure to back up your System folder before upgrading,
    because of course there are no guarantees.
     

    This shouldn't be a problem.
     

    The USB card drivers will be updated as part of the 9.2.2 upgrade.
    You'll have to check with the manufacturers about printer, etc.,
    drivers.

    --
    Mike Rosenberg

    <http://www.macconsult.com> Macintosh consulting services for NE Florida
    <http://bogart-tribute.net> Tribute to Humphrey Bogart
    Mike Guest

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    Mike Rosenberg wrote: 
    >[/ref]


    --big snip--


    Thanks, Mike.

    Now, I'm curious. What's macconsult.com?


    Cheers,


    Tim Miller

    Timothy Guest

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    Default Re: OS 9.2.2 vs. Upgraded 8500

    Timothy Miller <com> wrote:
     

    It's a domain name I own and use for my consulting business in
    Jacksonville, Fl.

    --
    Mike Rosenberg

    <http://www.macconsult.com> Macintosh consulting services for NE Florida
    <http://bogart-tribute.net> Tribute to Humphrey Bogart
    Mike Guest

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    Default Re: OS 9.2.2 vs. Upgraded 8500

    I have just upgraded my 7300 to OS 9.2.2, and after some fiddling it is working just fine - nice
    and snappy, and it seems most apps and the net work faster. Had an intitial prob where I
    couldn't control the sound volume but overcame that OK.

    The 7300 is fitted with a G4/400 upgrade card, a, IDE 60 gig HD, SCUSI 4 gig IBM drive, and a
    USB card.

    All things work well - I keep an OS on the 4 gig drive just in case, and use it to run Nortons
    Speed Disk etc to keep the big HD in fine fettle. Also, both drives carry a full range of disk
    utilities so I always have a working disk with repair utilities installed. Nice insurance.

    Having 2 drives, both with bootable a OS is a great idea - when I was upgrading to 9.2.2 I just
    upgraded the 4 gig drive one step at a time - testing it each step to make sure my PCI cards and
    major apps still worked BEFORE I took the big step of upgrading the 60 gig IDE drive

    Hope this helps

    DAvid
    David Guest

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