OT: Mac issue - deleting Classic....

[Dan Vendel *GOF*]

Getting closer to the day when it's goodbye to Classic for good. But
have heard there are issue when deleting the Classic system folder. I
have both on same disc, same partition (I needed to and I wanted to),
but when running OSX and trying just to delete the Classic system folder
I get an alert saying that it belongs to the system.

Can anyone give an intelligent (or close to) guess how I would proceed?
Booting from external disc or what?

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[Bridgetown Ben webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Dan

Couple of question for you:

1. Do you have your drive(s) partitioned?

If so you might want to download this app [url]http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html[/url] - Carbon Copy Cloner and move all of your Mac OS 10.2.x files to another drive and leave Mac OS 9.2.x on its own drive.

2. Have you checked to make sure that ALL of your OS X apps do not require ANY OS 9.2.x interface?

There are a couple of weird ones out there though I can't remember which ones right off hand.

After you've moved your Jaguar to its own drive run it for several days/weeks and make sure you're not running into any problems.

If you don't want to go through all of that you can always use Terminal.app to delete any file you wish - though I can tell you that making a simple mistake (like I did) will render your machine inoperable.

Not a lot of fun re-installing all those apps & utilities - to say the least.

[Dan Vendel *GOF*]

"Bridgetown Ben" [email]webforumsuser@macromedia.com[/email] wrote:

>
>
> 1. Do you have your drive(s) partitioned?

Nope, same partition, same disc.

>
> 2. Have you checked to make sure that ALL of your OS X apps do not require ANY OS 9.2.x interface?

Yes.

I just took the plunge and deleted all files *inside* the Classic system
folder. OSX didn't object and the machine is still running after a
couple of reboots. So, the folder can stay there empty as a gravestone
over a great system, RIP.


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[Scott Fegette]

Good to hear things are working for you so far, Dan.
FWIW, I had a similar problem way back when I dumped Classic- I'd solved it
by:

a) copying my OS9 System Folder to another HD
b) selecting the new 'copy' as the startup system
c) restarting
d) trashing the original System Folder (while in OS9)
e) setting my OSX partition back as the startup system, restarting

Mileage may vary, of course. (note- I still have a copy of my ancient OS9
system folder backed up *just in case*) This was all done back in October
2002 and I've been using the same system since, with no Classic dependency
problems yet... knock wood.

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"Dan Vendel *GOF*" <see_my_signature_@_the_bottom_of_the_post.com> wrote in
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> "Bridgetown Ben" [email]webforumsuser@macromedia.com[/email] wrote:

> >
> >
> > 1. Do you have your drive(s) partitioned?

>
> Nope, same partition, same disc.
>

> >
> > 2. Have you checked to make sure that ALL of your OS X apps do not

require ANY OS 9.2.x interface?

>
> Yes.
>
> I just took the plunge and deleted all files *inside* the Classic system
> folder. OSX didn't object and the machine is still running after a
> couple of reboots. So, the folder can stay there empty as a gravestone
> over a great system, RIP.
>
>
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[Scott Fegette]

> I could have used that, but I'm on an ancient blue/white G3, the (only?)

> Mac that can't be booted from an external HD.

d'oh!
Yep, that does throw a wrinkle into things, esp. with a single-partition
boot drive. But great to hear that all's stable now apres-surgery.

> Anyway, all old system files, apps and the whole Classic shebang is gone
> and I feel both glad I finally did it, nervous it won't work, and a bit
> sad missing a great OS...<sniff>

Yeah, it certainly was a feeling of relief when I chucked Classic. I still
get OS9-nostalgic from time to time- but then remember that I haven't
restarted my Mac in weeks and quickly get over it. ;-)

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[WM - XYZ]

Dan Vendel *GOF* wrote:

> Can anyone give an intelligent (or close to) guess how I would proceed?

Can you move the OS9 folder to the trash?
If so, move it, restart in OSX (the OSX now should ignore any relations
to OS9) and try to empty the trash.
This worked for me - but I had OS9 on another partition.

In the case you need one day OS9 you could move/install it to/on a disk
image (use Disk Copy) together with OS9 apps, and mount it when needed.
You never know.

Besides, I think it is not a bad idea to keep OS9 in the very basic
(startup) installation ready to use. Again, you never know - once it
happend to me that OSX became corrupt and I couldn't repair it (probably
I experimented too much). I restarted in OS9 and fixed the problem.

BTW, you were interested in Fink and so on.
To get a general idea, read for example:

[url]http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/mac/2003/03/14/mac_evolution.html[/url]
[url]http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/mac/2003/03/14/install_x11.html[/url]
[url]http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/mac/2003/02/07/x11.html[/url]

[url]http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/index.php[/url]

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(Wojciech Miskiewicz)

[Dan Vendel *GOF*]

WM - XYZ wrote:

> Dan Vendel *GOF* wrote:
>

>> Can anyone give an intelligent (or close to) guess how I would proceed?

>
>
> Can you move the OS9 folder to the trash?
> If so, move it, restart in OSX (the OSX now should ignore any relations
> to OS9) and try to empty the trash.
> This worked for me - but I had OS9 on another partition.
>
> In the case you need one day OS9 you could move/install it to/on a disk
> image (use Disk Copy) together with OS9 apps, and mount it when needed.
> You never know.
>
> Besides, I think it is not a bad idea to keep OS9 in the very basic
> (startup) installation ready to use. Again, you never know - once it
> happend to me that OSX became corrupt and I couldn't repair it (probably
> I experimented too much). I restarted in OS9 and fixed the problem.
>
> BTW, you were interested in Fink and so on.
> To get a general idea, read for example:
>
> [url]http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/mac/2003/03/14/mac_evolution.html[/url]
> [url]http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/mac/2003/03/14/install_x11.html[/url]
> [url]http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/mac/2003/02/07/x11.html[/url]
>
> [url]http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/index.php[/url]
>
> --
> wm
> (Wojciech Miskiewicz)
>

Woj,

The problem was that the OS9 system folder couldn't be moved. But by
first deleting all it's content, re-booting and then trashing the actual
(now empty) folder, it worked.

Thanks for tips about a disc image! I hope I won't have to use it, but
very good to know.

Yes, I have installed X11 window system, the Fink Commander and the Pan
newsreader, but I'm not all that impressed. Will keep it, though, since
there are lots of apps avaiable that I might have use for in the future.
Thanks for the links!

Cheers,


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