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Hello, I have another question. Have Pantone CMYK equivalent values changed in the last 5 years? The reason I asked is I have a job to print and the fellow used Freehand MX to design it (using PMS colors) and the job is printed in CMYK. The specific color is PMS 1817. In Freehand MX the values are 0%C,90%M,100%Y,66%K. These values are also exactly the same in Indesign CS. In Freehand 10 the values are 0%C,72%M,83%Y,76%. Freehand 10 cmyk equivalents match Pagemaker 7. As you can see the first color will give a red and the 2nd color will give ...

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    Hello,

    I have another question. Have Pantone CMYK equivalent values changed in the last 5 years? The reason I asked is I have a job to print and the fellow used Freehand MX to design it (using PMS colors) and the job is printed in CMYK.

    The specific color is PMS 1817. In Freehand MX the values are 0%C,90%M,100%Y,66%K. These values are also exactly the same in Indesign CS.

    In Freehand 10 the values are 0%C,72%M,83%Y,76%. Freehand 10 cmyk equivalents match Pagemaker 7. As you can see the first color will give a red and the 2nd color will give a brown. But, with 2 different values match by 2 apps each I can't imagine this could be a mistake with Adobe or Freehands products. Is there an explanation?

    Thanks,
    Bryce
    Bryce_Steiner@adobeforums.com Guest

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    Yes, those specs do change occassionally which is why I always advise
    not to use spot colors when printing process.

    Bob

    Robert_Levine@adobeforums.com Guest

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    Is there a way to find out CMYK equivalent version numbers? I do agree with you that one should never use Pantone values for CMYK jobs unless the person understands that they more than likely won't match.

    Bryce
    Bryce_Steiner@adobeforums.com Guest

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    I don't know. Why not visit [url]www.pantone.com[/url] and check there?

    Bob

    Robert_Levine@adobeforums.com Guest

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    While you might not wish to use CMYK inks to simulate Pantone on press (although, I have been known to do that), you have no choice but to use the CMYK mix for on-screen presentation of the colors when working in InDesign. That's what it uses. Similarly, if you send a PDF for proofing, the color in the PDF corresponds to the CMYK mix that InDesign's Pantone library contains.

    So, the mix certainly affects us.

    Elsewhere on the boards, you'll find people have substituted Photoshop's LAB based library for use with InDesign. This allegedly gives better on-screen simulation of the Pantone colors, but means that if you were to then decide to simulate a Pantone ink with CMYK, you'd not get the autorized Pantone CMYK mix for said color.

    Dave
    Dave_Saunders@adobeforums.com Guest

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    According to:

    Pantone Guide To Communicating With Color by Leatrice Eiseman the match for
    PMS 1817 is:

    C0 M90 Y100 K66


    <Bryce_Steineradobeforums.com> wrote in message
    news:3bb3f3ae.1webx.la2eafNXanI...
    > Is there a way to find out CMYK equivalent version numbers? I do agree
    with you that one should never use Pantone values for CMYK jobs unless the
    person understands that they more than likely won't match.
    >
    > Bryce

    iforte Guest

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