Perl vs TCL

[Selwyn Leeke]

Hi,

I'm thinking about writing a script in either Perl or TCL, but before
I start, I thought it would be a good idea to find out how they
compare to each other, so I can decide which is best for me.

Does anyone have any experience/opinions of TCL or Perl's Maths
functionality? Do you need to install extra modules to make it useful?

What about text manipulation? Is Perl better than TCL? Are there any
modules that improve on the core distribution?

Thanks in advance -
Selwyn

PS. Just out of interest... A lot of modules for perl seem to be
ported from TCL (tk, for example) - are there any that have gone the
other way?

[Abigail]

Selwyn Leeke (selwyn.leeke@camcon.co.uk) wrote on MMMDCLXI September
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:f6ba12d3.0309090456.3a61f60e@posting.goo gle.com>:
][ Hi,
][
][ I'm thinking about writing a script in either Perl or TCL, but before
][ I start, I thought it would be a good idea to find out how they
][ compare to each other, so I can decide which is best for me.
][
][ Does anyone have any experience/opinions of TCL or Perl's Maths
][ functionality? Do you need to install extra modules to make it useful?
][
][ What about text manipulation? Is Perl better than TCL? Are there any
][ modules that improve on the core distribution?

TCL is far, far better in al aspects. That's why every Unix vendor
supplies TCL, and have you let install Perl yourself.

Furthermore, TCL programmers are in high demand. Noone ever hires a
Perl programmer.

][ Thanks in advance -
][ Selwyn
][
][ PS. Just out of interest... A lot of modules for perl seem to be
][ ported from TCL (tk, for example) - are there any that have gone the
][ other way?


No. Almost anything found on CPAN or the Perl standard library was
borrowed, copied or stolen from TCL. The Perl communitie doesn't
create anything itself, so no porting to TCL was ever done.


Abigail
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[Matija Papec]

X-Ftn-To: Abigail

Abigail <abigail@abigail.nl> wrote:

>][ modules that improve on the core distribution?
>
>TCL is far, far better in al aspects. That's why every Unix vendor
>supplies TCL, and have you let install Perl yourself.
>
>Furthermore, TCL programmers are in high demand. Noone ever hires a
>Perl programmer.
>
>][ Thanks in advance -
>][ Selwyn
>][
>][ PS. Just out of interest... A lot of modules for perl seem to be
>][ ported from TCL (tk, for example) - are there any that have gone the
>][ other way?
>
>
>No. Almost anything found on CPAN or the Perl standard library was
>borrowed, copied or stolen from TCL. The Perl communitie doesn't
>create anything itself, so no porting to TCL was ever done.

Very, very cruel, I must say. :)



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Matija

[James Willmore]

On 9 Sep 2003 05:56:24 -0700
[email]selwyn.leeke@camcon.co.uk[/email] (Selwyn Leeke) wrote:

> I'm thinking about writing a script in either Perl or TCL, but
> before I start, I thought it would be a good idea to find out how
> they compare to each other, so I can decide which is best for me.
>
> Does anyone have any experience/opinions of TCL or Perl's Maths
> functionality? Do you need to install extra modules to make it
> useful?
>
> What about text manipulation? Is Perl better than TCL? Are there any
> modules that improve on the core distribution?
>
> Thanks in advance -
> Selwyn
>
> PS. Just out of interest... A lot of modules for perl seem to be
> ported from TCL (tk, for example) - are there any that have gone the
> other way?

<sigh>
I could compare COBOL with Perl, BASIC with Perl, C++ with Perl, etc.,
etc

Each language has its strengths and its weaknesses.

My advise is ... learn both, then create an application in both.
Which ever you feel most comfortable with, use.

This type of question has been asked and answered many times. Try
Google. The result is always the same - "my language is better than
your language" threads that take up bandwidth.

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[Eric J. Roode]

James Willmore <jwillmore@cyberia.com> wrote in
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>
> Each language has its strengths and its weaknesses.
>

What are Befunge's strengths? ;-)

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[Abigail]

Eric J. Roode (REMOVEsdnCAPS@comcast.net) wrote on MMMDCLXI September
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:Xns93F1A965361Bsdn.comcast@206.127.4.25> :
`` James Willmore <jwillmore@cyberia.com> wrote in
`` news:20030909123749.0cfa013b.jwillmore@cyberia.com :
``
`` >
`` > Each language has its strengths and its weaknesses.
`` >
``
`` What are Befunge's strengths? ;-)


It's terse and small.



Abigail
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[Tad McClellan]

Eric J. Roode <REMOVEsdnCAPS@comcast.net> wrote:

> James Willmore <jwillmore@cyberia.com> wrote in
> news:20030909123749.0cfa013b.jwillmore@cyberia.com :
>

>>
>> Each language has its strengths and its weaknesses.
>>

>
> What are Befunge's strengths? ;-)

Why, its cool name of course.


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[email]tadmc@augustmail.com[/email] Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas

[James Willmore]

On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 15:38:16 -0500
"Eric J. Roode" <REMOVEsdnCAPS@comcast.net> wrote:

> James Willmore <jwillmore@cyberia.com> wrote in
> news:20030909123749.0cfa013b.jwillmore@cyberia.com :

> > Each language has its strengths and its weaknesses.

> What are Befunge's strengths? ;-)

Well, I had to Google for this one. And after I did, I can now say I
stand corrected. I got a headache after one example.

HTH

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"Eric J. Roode" <REMOVEsdnCAPS@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> What are Befunge's strengths? ;-)

Job security.


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[Chris Marshall]

"Eric J. Roode" <REMOVEsdnCAPS@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<Xns93F1A965361Bsdn.comcast@206.127.4.25>...

> James Willmore <jwillmore@cyberia.com> wrote in
> news:20030909123749.0cfa013b.jwillmore@cyberia.com :
>

> >
> > Each language has its strengths and its weaknesses.
> >

>
> What are Befunge's strengths? ;-)

How about ZT ?
[url]http://www.winterbergs.de/software/zt.txt[/url]

which I found here: [url]http://www.kraml.at/stupid/languages.html[/url]

[James Willmore]

[email]c_j_marshall@hotmail.com[/email] (Chris Marshall) wrote in message news:<cb9c7b76.0309100407.558d427f@posting.google. com>...

> "Eric J. Roode" <REMOVEsdnCAPS@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<Xns93F1A965361Bsdn.comcast@206.127.4.25>...

> > James Willmore <jwillmore@cyberia.com> wrote in
> > news:20030909123749.0cfa013b.jwillmore@cyberia.com :
> >

> > >
> > > Each language has its strengths and its weaknesses.
> > >

> >
> > What are Befunge's strengths? ;-)

>
>
> How about ZT ?
> [url]http://www.winterbergs.de/software/zt.txt[/url]
>
> which I found here: [url]http://www.kraml.at/stupid/languages.html[/url]

Okay ... when I made the statement "Each language has its strengths
and its weaknesses", I meant langauges that are mainstream ... like
C++, Perl, TCL, PHP, Assembler, Java, etc.

And I'm now thinking, with the crowd here, I have to define
"mainstream" ;-)

Program in good health :-)

Jim