[PHP-DEV] PHP compiler

[Jeremy S. Johnstone]

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After seeing the conversation on the PHP archive idea (having a PHP
equivalent of a jar file), it reminded me of an idea I had a long time
ago. Has anyone ever thought of writing a PHP compiler which would
compile a PHP script into native machine code? If you have thought of
it, what stopped you from building it? I would be highly interested in
joining a team which wanted to push the limits of PHP by doing something
like this. I think this is the next logical step in the "PHP for
anything and everything" goal.

Jeremy

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[rblack@datavisibility.co.uk]

I would have thought the big thing against a compiler which produced native
machine code is that sooner or later differences between Operating Systems
and the library functions they provide would mean that the language would
no longer be machine independent. >Which for me (and a lot of other
developers) is one of the key features of PHP.

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"Jeremy S.
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06/08/2003 14:50






After seeing the conversation on the PHP archive idea (having a PHP
equivalent of a jar file), it reminded me of an idea I had a long time
ago. Has anyone ever thought of writing a PHP compiler which would
compile a PHP script into native machine code? If you have thought of
it, what stopped you from building it? I would be highly interested in
joining a team which wanted to push the limits of PHP by doing something
like this. I think this is the next logical step in the "PHP for
anything and everything" goal.

Jeremy






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[Per Lundberg]

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On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 15:50, Jeremy S. Johnstone wrote:

> After seeing the conversation on the PHP archive idea (having a PHP
> equivalent of a jar file), it reminded me of an idea I had a long time
> ago. Has anyone ever thought of writing a PHP compiler which would
> compile a PHP script into native machine code?

Not to discourage you or anything, but I doubt that would be a very good
idea. Because of the nature of PHP (being loosely typed and highly
dynamic), I think you would be disappointed with the speed result -- it
wouldn't be very much faster than the current PHP interpreter.

But then again, for distributing binary-only applications it would
perhaps be a good idea.
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[Andrey Hristov]

Even there is "bcompiler" in PEAR.


Andrey

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From: "Simeon Koptelov" <xi@newmail.ru>
To: <internals@lists.php.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP compiler

> Hello Jeremy,
>
> Wednesday, August 6, 2003, 7:50:57 PM, you wrote:
>
> JSJ> After seeing the conversation on the PHP archive idea (having a PHP
> JSJ> equivalent of a jar file), it reminded me of an idea I had a long

time

> JSJ> ago. Has anyone ever thought of writing a PHP compiler which would
> JSJ> compile a PHP script into native machine code? If you have thought of
> JSJ> it, what stopped you from building it? I would be highly interested

in

> JSJ> joining a team which wanted to push the limits of PHP by doing

something

> JSJ> like this. I think this is the next logical step in the "PHP for
> JSJ> anything and everything" goal.
>
> There are pruducts such as Zend Accelerator or Turck MMCache. Did you
> mean that type of compiling?
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Simeon mailto:xi@newmail.ru
>
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[Sebastian Bergmann]

Wez Furlong wrote:

> more technical issues actually related to the internals of PHP ? :-)

Like how to use the Streams API to implement the JAR-like functionality?

SCNR,
Sebastian

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[Andrey Hristov]

Sebastian,
accordint to this
[url]http://entwickler.com/itr/online_artikel/psecom,id,368,nodeid,114.html[/url]
article written by Wez :
[snip]
We have touched on all the key features of wrappers, and you should now be
capable of implementing your own protocol wrappers as PECL extensions. This
has a number of applications, ranging from just providing useful protocol
support, to using these features to implement your own storage for encrypted
or encoded PHP source files - remember that the Zend Engine is also tied
into the wrappers system, so you can include files via your own custom
wrappers.
[/snip]

Andrey

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From: "Sebastian Bergmann" <sebastian@php.net>
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> Wez Furlong wrote:

> > more technical issues actually related to the internals of PHP ? :-)

>
> Like how to use the Streams API to implement the JAR-like functionality?
>
> SCNR,
> Sebastian
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