Pop-up menu from text link instead of image?

[Klytus webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Does anyone know if it's possible to generate a pop-up menu off of a text link instead of off a button? If so, can either Fireworks MX or Fireworks MX 2004 handle it?

I would need it on the navigation buttons [url]http://www.morethangourmet.com/[/url].

Thanks,
Kirk Hiner

[Murray *TMM*]

Karl:

You can do this easily in DMX by making the text into a null link first. To
do this, select the text, and enter "javascript:;" (that's a colon
semicolon) in the link field of the property inspector -

<a href="javascript:;">Your selected text</a>

Then by clicking anywhere within this null link, you can apply the show
pop-up menu behavior.

I want you to think very hard about whether you want to use these menus in
light of the following -

They will add at least 35K of code overhead to the first page, as well as a
large dynamic write to each page containing the menus.

You should also know that they link to your files using document relative
links that are hardcoded in your javacript - not only are these links
invisible to the DW link management routines (i.e., when you move a page in
the site, you break the link), but worse, they are also invisible to the
search engine spiders, and accessability (508) requirements. You can solve
the
first of these link problems by converting your links to ROOT RELATIVE
links,
but you still have no link management capability through DW should you later
rename or move any linked file. The only way to solve the second problem is
to
make sure that your pages have alternate, HTML-based navigation links on
them.

I am not fond of these menus (as you have no doubt guessed) and feel that it
is important to know what you are getting into before you may devote much
time to them.

There are some excellent alternatives to these pop-ups that have none of
these problems. Here are two methods that are very simple -

[url]http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/menuing/mcloser/index.htm[/url]

or

[url]http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/auto_hide/index.htm[/url]

Here is a method that is more 'hands on' but very slick and equally trouble
free -

[url]http://www.youngpup.net/?request=/components/ypSlideOutMenus.xml[/url]

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"Klytus" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know if it's possible to generate a pop-up menu off of a text

link instead of off a button? If so, can either Fireworks MX or Fireworks MX
2004 handle it?

>
> I would need it on the navigation buttons [url]http://www.morethangourmet.com/[/url].
>
> Thanks,
> Kirk Hiner
>
>

[Linda Rathgeber]

You can do it in Dreamweaver with show/hide layers, but not in Fireworks.


Best regards,
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[Klytus webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Thanks for the tip. I agree with your concerns, actually. The irony is that the client wants us to pursue this option because they feel those 0.5K buttons are slowing down the page's load time.

Kirk

[Murray *TMM*]

Kirk:

If they feel that the 0.5K buttons are slowing down the page's load time,
how do they feel about the 31K javascript support file, or the 4-10K
embedded javascript for the menu customization, or the 15-25K dynamic write
to the page that the javascript triggers on EVERY page holding the menus?

Dump these menus and do the WHOLE thing in less than 7K of code.

Clients cannot make such decisions. They need your guidance. They have
faulty information and you have to help them understand - geddit?

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"Klytus" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the tip. I agree with your concerns, actually. The irony is

that the client wants us to pursue this option because they feel those 0.5K
buttons are slowing down the page's load time.

>
> Kirk
>
>

[Klytus webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

I'm with you, but this is one of these clients who thinks they know better than us, you know? Whenever we disagree with them, we have to compile loads of information on why we're right. A waste of time, yes, but they're our #1 client (money maker), so it's a neceesary evil. These forums have proven tremendously helpful each time we do this, so I thank you all.

Kirk

[Murray *TMM*]

Kirk:

Your client cannot make this decision for you since he/she has no way to
appreciate the impact of it. Surely they are also asking you for pages that
load briskly and that rank highly on search engines. Well, if they insist
on the pop-ups then they get neither of those.

In addition, your maintenance problems will be substantial down the road
when you rename or move any menu-linked file.

Educate your clients. Then take their money.

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"Klytus" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> I'm with you, but this is one of these clients who thinks they know better

than us, you know? Whenever we disagree with them, we have to compile loads
of information on why we're right. A waste of time, yes, but they're our #1
client (money maker), so it's a neceesary evil. These forums have proven
tremendously helpful each time we do this, so I thank you all.

>
> Kirk
>
>

[John T]

> Educate your clients.

Exactly! The last client I met with was very grateful that I educated him in
the most reasonable way of handling some of the things he wanted in a site.
"That makes sense" was one of the most often uttered phrases during that
consultation. :-)

John