pop-ups in frames

[Peter Knox webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Hi all,

I've set up a pop-up navigation menu where the pop-ups are displayed in a different frame than the triggering element (as per the fireworks technote 16648). The basic set-up is that I have a 'menu' frame sitting above a content frame. The menu buttons are displayed horizontally. Some of the buttons have pop-up behaviour and some don't. When a button is "OnMouseOver"d the pop-up items are displayed in the content frame, below the relevant button.

The pop-ups work well but there is a small problem with the OnMouseOut behaviour in the triggering element:

When I "MouseOver" a triggering element, the pop-up appears as expected. However if I "MouseOut" from that element onto a button that doesn't have pop-up behaviour the pop-up continues to be displayed. (until I mouseover another button that has pop-up behaviour.)

The OnMouseOut works OK in the content frame; i.e. if I Mouseover a button then move the pointer down onto the pop-up items and then across or down onto the actual content, the pop-up menu closes.

I assume that what I have to do is make the OnMouseOut events on the menu page clear the pop-ups in the content page, however I'm having a lot of trouble getting my head around the JavaScipt functions that do this. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,

Peter
Wombat@work

[Murray *TMM*]

Peter:

It is true. Your choices are limited now -

1. DUMP THE FRAMES - you would not be having this problem in a non-framed
site.
2. Redesign your menus so that they do not need to span a frame boundary.
3. Redesign the frameset so that you leave enough room for the largest
popup.
4. Move the layer code for the popups from the page in the navigation frame
to each page in the content frame.
5. DUMP THE FRAMES - you would not be having this problem in a non-framed
site.

I recommend either #1 or #5, depending on what your needs are. You just
have no idea the horrors that await you if you continue with the frames.....
8)

Furthermore, as long as you need to reconsider things, reconsider the
pop-ups too.

The DW/FW pop-ups will add at least 35K of code overhead to the first page
using them, as well as a large dynamic write to *each* page containing the
menus.

You should also know that they link to your files using document relative
links that are hardcoded in your javacript - not only are these links
invisible to the DW link management routines (i.e., when you move a page in
the site, you break the link), but worse, they are also invisible to the
search engine spiders, and accessability (508) requirements. The only way to
solve the second problem is to make sure that your pages have alternate,
HTML-based navigation links on them.

I am not fond of these menus (as you have no doubt guessed) and feel that it
is important to know what you are getting into before you may devote much
time to them.

There are some excellent alternatives to these pop-ups that have none of
these problems. Here are two methods that are very simple -

[url]http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/menuing/mcloser/index.htm[/url]

or

[url]http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/auto_hide/index.htm[/url]

Here is a method that is more 'hands on' but very slick and equally trouble
free -

[url]http://www.youngpup.net/?request=/components/ypSlideOutMenus.xml[/url]



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"Peter Knox" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:bms59d$cri$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> Hi all,
>
> I've set up a pop-up navigation menu where the pop-ups are displayed in a

different frame than the triggering element (as per the fireworks technote
16648). The basic set-up is that I have a 'menu' frame sitting above a
content frame. The menu buttons are displayed horizontally. Some of the
buttons have pop-up behaviour and some don't. When a button is
"OnMouseOver"d the pop-up items are displayed in the content frame, below
the relevant button.

>
> The pop-ups work well but there is a small problem with the OnMouseOut

behaviour in the triggering element:

>
> When I "MouseOver" a triggering element, the pop-up appears as expected.

However if I "MouseOut" from that element onto a button that doesn't have
pop-up behaviour the pop-up continues to be displayed. (until I mouseover
another button that has pop-up behaviour.)

>
> The OnMouseOut works OK in the content frame; i.e. if I Mouseover a button

then move the pointer down onto the pop-up items and then across or down
onto the actual content, the pop-up menu closes.

>
> I assume that what I have to do is make the OnMouseOut events on the menu

page clear the pop-ups in the content page, however I'm having a lot of
trouble getting my head around the JavaScipt functions that do this. Any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

>
> thanks,
>
> Peter
> Wombat@work
>
>
>