prints not centered with epson 825

[marlo fann]

I have been going though trial and error, trying to get my 8x10 photos to print. Without having ps7 blowing up the image larger than the paper size, this results to unwanted clipping. I have reduced the size to 97.75% and shifted the image a little, in the print preview. but has to be an easier way, than trial and error. Or am I wrong?

thanks in advance
marlo

[marlo fann]

That is what I am saying, I have to make the image smaller than 8x10 in-order for it to fit on the page. Also if I use the center feature, it prints shifted to the left side.

[YrbkMgr]

I don't know if you're printing in landscape or portrait orientation, but I'm betting landscape based on the shift to the left side.

If that's the case here's the story. Your printer has defined margins past which it cannot (usually) print. You will see the page margins when you File|Print with Preview and click the Page Setup. Those are physical limitations of your printer since the printer must push paper under the print heads - at some point you run out of paper to "push" under the heads, resulting in a 'back end' margin that is greater than the others.

On my old Epsons, that 'back end' margin was 0.556 inches, or little more than half an inch. So an 8 x 10 would print fine in portrait, but in landscape, one side would be "off".

There are two things you can do. Create a custom paper for your printer that is slightly larger (not recommended), or reduce your image size slightly.

Peace,
Tony

[marlo fann]

That is what I am saying, I have to make the image smaller than 8x10 in-order for it to fit on the page. Also if I use the center feature, it prints shifted to the left side.

[barry gray]

Try this: Increase your canvas size to your paper size, 8.5 x 11?> center your print > Page setup click max. print area . dismiss/ingnor the "some clipping may , etc" dialog > print.

[marlo fann]

thanks Tony,
But, let me ask you. If you are printing borderless, shouldn't that negate the use of margins and why would photoshop send an image to the print driver, that is larger than the desired paper size; if I set the scale to 100%?

marlo

[marlo fann]

hello Barry,
I have tried that and the paper size is 8x10 borderless paper.
marlo

[YrbkMgr]

Marlo,

If you are printing borderless, shouldn't that negate the use of margins




Yes, borderless should negate it. I never do borderless so I can't say.

why would photoshop send an image to the print driver, that is larger
than the desired paper size;




Because you told it to, really. Unlike other applications, PS is not a page layout program so you do not define page sizes, you define image sizes. Your printer driver defines the paper size (from printer properties). Photoshop just does you the courtesy of letting you see how your image will print with what you have defined as your paper size.

That's one question we didn't address - your source paper (what you're loading into the printer) is 8 x 10? If that's the case, have you defined that in your printer settings (I want borderless on 8 x 10 paper)?

Peace,
Tony

[marlo fann]

hello Colin,
I a feeling it was something like that. I guess I am stuck with the trial and error

thanks marlo

[marlo fann]

hello Tony,
It is 8x10 borderless paper. both photoshop and the epson print drivers have the same paper size.

marlo

[YrbkMgr]

both photoshop and the epson print drivers have the same paper size.




That's what I don't understand. Remember, you want to define the size of the image in photoshop, not the paper, per se.

Photoshop is reading your paper size settings from the printer driver. If it wants to shrink the image to fit, then you have a margin issue with your paper definition.

Here's what you should do to check. File|Print with Preview (v7) File|Print Options (v6). Click Page Setup button. Click the Printer Properties Button. Set your dpi, color settings, etc., and then make sure Paper is 8x10, and "borderless" is checked - I have the 1280 so I don't know exactly what settings you have in your model but it should be reasonably the same.

After you Okay the printer settings, you're brought back to the Page Setup dialog. Look at the margins - are there numbers there other than 0? If so, that's why you're not getting what you expect.

Photoshop knows what your margins are, based on the printer driver.

When you get back to the Print with Preview dialog, you should have Center Image checked, and look at the grayed out margins at the top. They should be non-negative numbers. If they're not, then you have a printer driver issue that you must resolve - specifically your page size v. physical limitations of the printer.

Peace,
Tony

Oh, and by the way, avoid using your Back button in the browser - it causes double posts every time you read the thread. Use the forum links instead.

[marlo fann]

hello Tony,
It is 8x10 borderless paper. both photoshop and the epson print drivers have the same paper size.

marlo

[YrbkMgr]

my point exactly.

[Colin Walls]

But is this printer supposed to do borderless? Only very recent ones [like 1290?] can do this.

[YrbkMgr]

Yes Colin, it does borderless.

[marlo fann]

Hello Tony,
Sorry about the double posts, I didn't know.

To start off the image size is 8x10.
The print drivers are set to 8x10 borderless sheetfeed.

When I set the "scaled print size" to 100% and use center image. The left position is "-0.026 inches". I print; the clipping message comes up; hit okay; epson print preview shows that the image has been clipped about 3/16 on all four sides. Which is how it printed.

I try again, same settingas as before but this time I change the scale to 97%. the postion changes to: top 0.151 inches, left 0.096 inches. In the preview window it does indeed look centered. I print again, this time no clipping message. Now here is when it happens, in the epson print preview the image is no longer centered. The image has shifted down showing a thin uncovered area at the top of the page and clipping the bottom of the image off. Also the image has shifted more to the left, clipping that side. Bear in mind the image is still larger that the paper size. even though I reduced its size.

But what I don't know is where the problem lies.

marlo