Problem with exporting PDF's from AiCS

"I then masked the art to fit in a 8.5x11 page"

Yes I did that originally. Even if I hadn't created a mask, it should NEVER change the page size. Never. Plus, it never did that before - page size was sacrosanct, as it should be.

jigsaw,

I'll bet that you saved the PDF without AI editing enabled. The PDF will have to expand the fills and since they extend beyond the page, you will get everything.

Larry

Larry,

Gave that a whirl and it was a negative. New page size: 18.5x11 (again).

Dee did not recommend masking. She recommended Crop Marks.

jigsaw-- the page size may seem sacrosanct to you, but consider the problems. If all you had to do was save your AI artwork as a pdf and it would automatically crop your artwork to the print page size you would be unable to edit anything outside of your page area. This would be an enormous inconvenience, to say the least.

Saving as pdf gives you the large page size because it's keeping all your data intact, including the parts of the art that are outside of the masking area. If you don't want that data available anymore, just reset your document size to 8.5x11. Anything outside the document area should be cropping on the pdf, though it should still be available if you open from AI.

Doug,

Drrr - all I read was "crop." Thanks. But yes, I had/have crop marks on. Even if I didn't, it really shouldn't matter. Page size should never, ever change - talk about the type of monkeywrench that throws into the printing process...

jonf,

"...crop your artwork to the print page size you would be unable to edit anything outside of your page area."

Sorry to disagree, but I just did a lot of pdf tests with AI's 9, 10 and CS with 3 different files. All 3 had images and art larger than the 8.5x11 page size cropped to view within the page. Only CS made it's own new page size. All opened again in AI's 9 and 10 with the images, lines, art (and even a box I placed off to the side of the document to test) there to be edited to your hearts content. I even saved with "AI editing" off (1mb file went down to 400k, 270k file went down to 64k) and they all still opened in Illustrator with everything still intact (even layers without anything on them).

I make a lot of multiple page pdf presentations (logos and other single page illustrations which I stitch together in Acrobat) and I make many pages with cropped images that bleed off of the page - cropped of course - and to have the app change page sizes is simply unacceptable. It worked before, why not now?!

And to top it off, I just found a new CS "bonus" feature: I can no longer paste a new name into the file name box on a "Save As". A constant re-typing of things I used to paste, thanks Adobe.

merge

There has been some discussion in the past regarding this.

See this link and also the link this one contains. <http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?128@@.2cd0964b>

There have been morre threads discussing this, but you will need to search them out.