problems with older iBook

[J Cravens]

I have an iBook, bought in February 2000 (it's lime green)
It runs 9.0.4 (Mac OS ROM 5.3.1)
It has 64 MB of built-in memory
Disk cache: 2048 K

About a year ago, I started to have lots of screen freezes. Then my computer
stopped sleeping -- I had to leave it running or shut it down completely.
Then, about four months ago, I got hit with a
systems error that did not allow me to boot up; mostly, the system error I
got was 41. I ended up having to re-install all of my systems software,
which took forever to restore all my most-used application preferences and
Internet settings.

Now, once again, screen freezes are happening more frequently, and the other
day, the iBook refused to shut down.

My questions:

-- I took the iBook into the local shop (Gravis, in Bonn, Germany) and they
said that the machine couldn't handle Mac X; they said the memory couldn't
be increased either. Has anyone out there with an iBook like mine upgraded
to Mac X, and what has been your experience?

-- My battery barely lasts three hours. Is it relatively easy to find a new
battery for my iBook?

[Donald Smith]

Le 11/08/03 10:27, dans bh7k6q$uh04u$1@ID-139614.news.uni-berlin.de, «*J
Cravens*» <seesig4address@unvolunteers.org> a écrit*:

> I have an iBook, bought in February 2000 (it's lime green)
> It runs 9.0.4 (Mac OS ROM 5.3.1)
> It has 64 MB of built-in memory
> Disk cache: 2048 K
>
> About a year ago, I started to have lots of screen freezes. Then my computer
> stopped sleeping -- I had to leave it running or shut it down completely.
> Then, about four months ago, I got hit with a
> systems error that did not allow me to boot up; mostly, the system error I
> got was 41. I ended up having to re-install all of my systems software,
> which took forever to restore all my most-used application preferences and
> Internet settings.
>
> Now, once again, screen freezes are happening more frequently, and the other
> day, the iBook refused to shut down.
>
> My questions:
>
> -- I took the iBook into the local shop (Gravis, in Bonn, Germany) and they
> said that the machine couldn't handle Mac X; they said the memory couldn't
> be increased either. Has anyone out there with an iBook like mine upgraded
> to Mac X, and what has been your experience?
>
> -- My battery barely lasts three hours. Is it relatively easy to find a new
> battery for my iBook?
>
>

my wife has the ibook special edition, original ibook only difference to
yours I believe is the 366mgh processor

she is running the latest X on it, it is fast and very stable, I did not
install 9 (classic) on this machine, I suggest you do the same if you do not
need 9, if you do, you can install it...

I installed 576 megs of ram, you can buy ram cheaply do some searches on
macintouch.com I think they have sth. called Ram watch, you should be able
to fin a good price in germany if you hunt around

so your local dealer does not know what he is talking about, probably wants
you to buy a new machine!!!!

as well, the forthecoming Panther will run on this machine...

[Barry Twycross]

In article <bh7k6q$uh04u$1@ID-139614.news.uni-berlin.de>, J Cravens
<seesig4address@unvolunteers.org> wrote:

> I have an iBook, bought in February 2000 (it's lime green)
> It runs 9.0.4 (Mac OS ROM 5.3.1)
> It has 64 MB of built-in memory

> -- I took the iBook into the local shop (Gravis, in Bonn, Germany) and they
> said that the machine couldn't handle Mac X; they said the memory couldn't
> be increased either. Has anyone out there with an iBook like mine upgraded
> to Mac X, and what has been your experience?

You should find a better shop. It can run X, and the memory can be
upgraded.

My wife's iBook is older and slower it runs OS X quite happily and its
got 576MB in it, you can drop a 512MB stick into it (that's cost about
$90 here), its quite simple to do it yourself.

OS X on an iBook that old is not exactly zippy, but it does work.

> -- My battery barely lasts three hours. Is it relatively easy to find a new
> battery for my iBook?

3 hours isn't bad. I got a new battery from my local Apple shop. They
stock a 3rd party battery from "BTi". I'd expect any decent Mac shop or
mail order place to have them. They should be easy to find as its about
now all the old iBook batteries are flaking out.

There's an interesting hack involving getting into open firmware which
can revive a flagging battery. The battery may be good, but the Mac
thinks it isn't, if the memory is cleared out the battery will get
better.

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[Marc Heusser]

In article <120820032151211224%barry@netbox.com>,
Barry Twycross <barry@netbox.com> wrote:

> In article <bh7k6q$uh04u$1@ID-139614.news.uni-berlin.de>, J Cravens
> <seesig4address@unvolunteers.org> wrote:

> > I have an iBook, bought in February 2000 (it's lime green)
> > It runs 9.0.4 (Mac OS ROM 5.3.1)
> > It has 64 MB of built-in memory

>

> > -- I took the iBook into the local shop (Gravis, in Bonn, Germany) and they
> > said that the machine couldn't handle Mac X; they said the memory couldn't
> > be increased either. Has anyone out there with an iBook like mine upgraded
> > to Mac X, and what has been your experience?

I run Mac OSX 10.2.6 on a Pismo PB (G3/500 MHz, 384 MB RAM) and it works
well. No hacks required whatsoever.

Get 512 MB RAM in it, and it will work well.

HTH

Marc

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[J Cravens]

Thanks so much to everyone for the advice. Between this group and another
group where I posted this, I think I have the details I need to get this
machine upgraded.

"J Cravens" <seesig4address@unvolunteers.org> wrote in message
news:bh7k6q$uh04u$1@ID-139614.news.uni-berlin.de...

> I have an iBook, bought in February 2000 (it's lime green)
> It runs 9.0.4 (Mac OS ROM 5.3.1)
> It has 64 MB of built-in memory
> Disk cache: 2048 K
>
> About a year ago, I started to have lots of screen freezes. Then my

computer

> stopped sleeping -- I had to leave it running or shut it down completely.
> Then, about four months ago, I got hit with a
> systems error that did not allow me to boot up; mostly, the system error I
> got was 41. I ended up having to re-install all of my systems software,
> which took forever to restore all my most-used application preferences and
> Internet settings.
>
> Now, once again, screen freezes are happening more frequently, and the

other

> day, the iBook refused to shut down.
>
> My questions:
>
> -- I took the iBook into the local shop (Gravis, in Bonn, Germany) and

they

> said that the machine couldn't handle Mac X; they said the memory couldn't
> be increased either. Has anyone out there with an iBook like mine upgraded
> to Mac X, and what has been your experience?
>
> -- My battery barely lasts three hours. Is it relatively easy to find a

new

> battery for my iBook?
>
>

[matt neuburg]

In <marc.heusser-C231FC.10093013082003@news.bluewin.ch> Marc Heusser
wrote:

> In article <120820032151211224%barry@netbox.com>,
> Barry Twycross <barry@netbox.com> wrote:
>

>> In article <bh7k6q$uh04u$1@ID-139614.news.uni-berlin.de>, J Cravens
>> <seesig4address@unvolunteers.org> wrote:

>> > I have an iBook, bought in February 2000 (it's lime green)
>> > It runs 9.0.4 (Mac OS ROM 5.3.1)
>> > It has 64 MB of built-in memory
>> > memory couldn't be increased either. Has anyone out there with an
>> > iBook like mine upgraded to Mac X

>
> I run Mac OSX 10.2.6 on a Pismo

So why are you answering? The OP wants to know about machines "like
mine". A Pismo is nothing like a lime-green iBook. m.


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[matt neuburg]

In <marc.heusser-7618F3.18113213082003@news.bluewin.ch> Marc Heusser
wrote:

> In article <20030813070242966-0700@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
> matt neuburg <matt@tidbits.com> wrote:
>
> ....

>> >> > memory couldn't be increased either. Has anyone out there with
>> >> > an iBook like mine upgraded to Mac X
>> >
>> > I run Mac OSX 10.2.6 on a Pismo

>>
>> So why are you answering? The OP wants to know about machines "like
>> mine". A Pismo is nothing like a lime-green iBook. m.

>
> Because is is not that different - bus a little slower, CPU a little
> slower but otherwise rather similar.

If a Pismo is like a lime-green iBook a rhinoceros is like a camel. The
only similarity I can see is that they both have four feet and neither
is a puma.

Lime-green iBook is 366-MHz G3, 256K level 2 cache, 66-MHz bus, and an
under-sized screen (800 x 600).

Pismo is 500-MHz G3, 1MB level 2 cache, 100-Mhz bus, and a full-size
screen.

Neither has QuartzExtreme, but all in all the experiences of running Mac
OS X on these two machines would clearly be very, very different. To say
that you have relevant "experience" with the iBook is just silly. m.

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[matt neuburg]

In <usenet-F46F17.05093416082003@quokka.wn.com.au> Particle Man wrote:

> The smaller iBook screen requires you to make the OSX interface
> elements smaller so that OSX doesn't simply take over the entire
> screen with the dock and other widgets but once that's done it's
> quite useable.

How do you make menu names smaller? I've got a 1024-pixel wide screen
and I still have apps with so many menus in the menu bar that they crowd
my clock off the right side of the menu bar. If you've solved this I'd
love to hear how. m.

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