Publisher 2003 - publishing to web

[Sherrie S]

I am ready to cry - really cry- I mean my eyes are watering as I type. I have made my Publisher website through the template (easy) and have tried to save it and publish it but I really don't know what I'm doing and have been trying this for 4 days now. My baby has had an extended wet diaper, crackers for lunch and my daughter has had no help with homework. I have a 4 page website and am using netfirms as a host. Please someone help me to go through this step-by-step as I am too technically stupid to understand any of the instructions. The help menu did not help and the MS technical assistance put me on hold for 70 minutes. I will be very grateful, assuredly. Thank you.

[David Bartosik - MS MVP]

refer to
[url]http://www.davidbartosik.com/download/howtopublish_version2003.pdf[/url]

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"Sherrie S" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:35DAD02D-E7E8-4D27-8FBA-61E2CD9A0A5A@microsoft.com...

> I am ready to cry - really cry- I mean my eyes are watering as I type. I

have made my Publisher website through the template (easy) and have tried to
save it and publish it but I really don't know what I'm doing and have been
trying this for 4 days now. My baby has had an extended wet diaper,
crackers for lunch and my daughter has had no help with homework. I have a
4 page website and am using netfirms as a host. Please someone help me to
go through this step-by-step as I am too technically stupid to understand
any of the instructions. The help menu did not help and the MS technical
assistance put me on hold for 70 minutes. I will be very grateful,
assuredly. Thank you.

I also can not upload and have netfirms. It has been
trying for me as well. I am thinking of buying another
software for website creation. Netfirms has not been very
helpful to me. Please let me know how things resolve for
you. Lucie1970(NOSPAM)@yahoo.com

>-----Original Message-----
>I am ready to cry - really cry- I mean my eyes are

watering as I type. I have made my Publisher website
through the template (easy) and have tried to save it and
publish it but I really don't know what I'm doing and have
been trying this for 4 days now. My baby has had an
extended wet diaper, crackers for lunch and my daughter has
had no help with homework. I have a 4 page website and am
using netfirms as a host. Please someone help me to go
through this step-by-step as I am too technically stupid to
understand any of the instructions. The help menu did not
help and the MS technical assistance put me on hold for 70
minutes. I will be very grateful, assuredly. Thank you.

>.
>

[David Bartosik - MS MVP]

about your issue, I believe (I'd have to test an upload to your server) the
issue is due to the file sizes in your site and the time needed to upload
them accordingly. You have some huge image files (more on this in a
moment) - for example the image of the couple on page 14 is a whopping 2 mb.
I believe what is happening to you is that your connection times out. Either
the ISP drops it or perhaps the web server host closes the connection. As in
your upload takes more time than they allow for.

Your web pages load slow in the browser as well due to the file sizes.

The solution to all this is time-consuming. Right now you are inserting full
size and full resolution images on the pub page. You then scale the picture
frame to the size you want on the page. Problem with that is that Publisher
uploads that full size image. (previous versions of Pub made a copy of the
image in the scaled down size). What happens is that the browser then needs
to download and resize the image onto the page.

What you want to do is make web versions of your images before you design a
page. In the photo/graphics editor of your choice (Digital Image ships with
Pub 2003 deluxe, Picture Mgr ships with Office 2003) size the image to about
the size you want to use on the web page and also save it in a web
resolution (i.e.: 96 dpi) versus a photo resolution (i.e.: 300 dpi). Your
web versions of your images will probably be more in the size range of 10-30
kb each rather than the 600 - 1000 kb you have now. Insert these web copies
on the publisher page. (you can still make little sizing adjustments).

--
David Bartosik - MS MVP
for Publisher help:
[url]www.davidbartosik.com[/url]
enter to win Pub 2003:
[url]www.davidbartosik.com/giveaway.aspx[/url]


<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7af401c402dc$ee71c2b0$a001280a@phx.gbl...

> I also can not upload and have netfirms. It has been
> trying for me as well. I am thinking of buying another
> software for website creation. Netfirms has not been very
> helpful to me. Please let me know how things resolve for
> you. Lucie1970(NOSPAM)@yahoo.com

> >-----Original Message-----
> >I am ready to cry - really cry- I mean my eyes are

> watering as I type. I have made my Publisher website
> through the template (easy) and have tried to save it and
> publish it but I really don't know what I'm doing and have
> been trying this for 4 days now. My baby has had an
> extended wet diaper, crackers for lunch and my daughter has
> had no help with homework. I have a 4 page website and am
> using netfirms as a host. Please someone help me to go
> through this step-by-step as I am too technically stupid to
> understand any of the instructions. The help menu did not
> help and the MS technical assistance put me on hold for 70
> minutes. I will be very grateful, assuredly. Thank you.

> >.
> >

[Sherrie S]

Thank you so much Mr. Bartosik. I loaded it up and it had been loading all along, but had evidently timed out. Psychically, you answered the question that I was going to ask next. How to adjust the photos so that they load faster. I will definitely do that and when my site is up and running, I will give you the address and a copy of the pub file for your research. Thank you again so much.

[analog@logwell.com]

Why in gawds name did they decide to change the convention and upload the
full-sized image in 2003?


On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 18:38:37 -0600, "David Bartosik - MS MVP"
<dbartosik@mvps.org> wrote:

>about your issue, I believe (I'd have to test an upload to your server) the
>issue is due to the file sizes in your site and the time needed to upload
>them accordingly. You have some huge image files (more on this in a
>moment) - for example the image of the couple on page 14 is a whopping 2 mb.
>I believe what is happening to you is that your connection times out. Either
>the ISP drops it or perhaps the web server host closes the connection. As in
>your upload takes more time than they allow for.
>
>Your web pages load slow in the browser as well due to the file sizes.
>
>The solution to all this is time-consuming. Right now you are inserting full
>size and full resolution images on the pub page. You then scale the picture
>frame to the size you want on the page. Problem with that is that Publisher
>uploads that full size image. (previous versions of Pub made a copy of the
>image in the scaled down size). What happens is that the browser then needs
>to download and resize the image onto the page.
>
>What you want to do is make web versions of your images before you design a
>page. In the photo/graphics editor of your choice (Digital Image ships with
>Pub 2003 deluxe, Picture Mgr ships with Office 2003) size the image to about
>the size you want to use on the web page and also save it in a web
>resolution (i.e.: 96 dpi) versus a photo resolution (i.e.: 300 dpi). Your
>web versions of your images will probably be more in the size range of 10-30
>kb each rather than the 600 - 1000 kb you have now. Insert these web copies
>on the publisher page. (you can still make little sizing adjustments).

[RJT]

To convert your publisher (2003?) publication to a web site, set up
folder called "index_file". Using the "publish to web" button, sav
your publication to that folder. In the "index_file" folder, you wil
find a subfolder folder called "index_file" and a file called "index
(has an IE icon attached). Use an ftp program to upload the info t
your web site provider. You MUST upload BOTH the index_file folder an
the index file. I use a free ftp program called "ftp Commander". I
extremely simple and works like a damn


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[David Bartosik MSFT MVP]

Use of the support folder is not a requirement. It can be turned off under web options. This is pointed out in my upload tutorial at [url]www.davidbartosik.com/ppt.htm[/url]

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[url]www.davidbartosik.com[/url]
enter to win Pub 2003:
[url]www.davidbartosik.com/giveaway.aspx[/url]



"RJT" wrote:

>
> To convert your publisher (2003?) publication to a web site, set up a
> folder called "index_file". Using the "publish to web" button, save
> your publication to that folder. In the "index_file" folder, you will
> find a subfolder folder called "index_file" and a file called "index"
> (has an IE icon attached). Use an ftp program to upload the info to
> your web site provider. You MUST upload BOTH the index_file folder and
> the index file. I use a free ftp program called "ftp Commander". Is
> extremely simple and works like a damn.
>
>
>
> --
> RJT
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[RJT]

David,

I bow to your absolute knowledge about the publisher programs, but I
spent hours with my ISP as my site would just not upload properly, as I
was just uploading the support files and the index.htm file. His
suggestion was to upload the support folder as well to see what
happens. Bingo. The site came up perfectly. My question at that time
was what does the folder contain except the files I uploaded? He didn't
know, and I certainly didn't know. But the outcome fit my expections. So
now, I upload the support folder along with the index.htm file and get
exactly what I want every time.

I use Publisher 2003 with XP.

Bob

David Bartosik MSFT MVP wrote:

> *Use of the support folder is not a requirement. It can be turned off
> under web options. This is pointed out in my upload tutorial at
> [url]www.davidbartosik.com/ppt.htm[/url]
>
> --
> David Bartosik - MSFT MVP
> for Publisher help:
> [url]www.davidbartosik.com[/url]
> enter to win Pub 2003:
> [url]www.davidbartosik.com/giveaway.aspx[/url]
>
>
>
> "RJT" wrote:
>

> >
> > To convert your publisher (2003?) publication to a web site, set up

> a

> > folder called "index_file". Using the "publish to web" button,

> save

> > your publication to that folder. In the "index_file" folder, you

> will

> > find a subfolder folder called "index_file" and a file called

> "index"

> > (has an IE icon attached). Use an ftp program to upload the info

> to

> > your web site provider. You MUST upload BOTH the index_file folder

> and

> > the index file. I use a free ftp program called "ftp Commander".

> Is

> > extremely simple and works like a damn.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > RJT
> >

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I'll try this again.... ;-)

option A)
Use support folder is turned "on" under Tools, options.
Pub creates a subfolder named after the home page.
Every file BUT the home page is located in the subfolder.
Since the subfolder is being used it must be uploaded, else you get nothing
but the first page.

option B)
Use support folder is turned "off" under Tools, options.
Pub does not create a folder, all files are generated together without
separation.
Upload all files.

So if option A is confusing use option B.

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for Publisher help:
[url]www.davidbartosik.com[/url]
enter to win Pub 2003:
[url]www.davidbartosik.com/giveaway.aspx[/url]



"RJT" <RJT.17yuy5@mail.forum4designers.com> wrote in message
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>
> David,
>
> I bow to your absolute knowledge about the publisher programs, but I
> spent hours with my ISP as my site would just not upload properly, as I
> was just uploading the support files and the index.htm file. His
> suggestion was to upload the support folder as well to see what
> happens. Bingo. The site came up perfectly. My question at that time
> was what does the folder contain except the files I uploaded? He didn't
> know, and I certainly didn't know. But the outcome fit my expections. So
> now, I upload the support folder along with the index.htm file and get
> exactly what I want every time.
>
> I use Publisher 2003 with XP.
>
> Bob
>
> David Bartosik MSFT MVP wrote:

> > *Use of the support folder is not a requirement. It can be turned off
> > under web options. This is pointed out in my upload tutorial at
> > [url]www.davidbartosik.com/ppt.htm[/url]
> >
> > --
> > David Bartosik - MSFT MVP
> > for Publisher help:
> > [url]www.davidbartosik.com[/url]
> > enter to win Pub 2003:
> > [url]www.davidbartosik.com/giveaway.aspx[/url]
> >
> >
> >
> > "RJT" wrote:
> >

> > >
> > > To convert your publisher (2003?) publication to a web site, set up

> > a

> > > folder called "index_file". Using the "publish to web" button,

> > save

> > > your publication to that folder. In the "index_file" folder, you

> > will

> > > find a subfolder folder called "index_file" and a file called

> > "index"

> > > (has an IE icon attached). Use an ftp program to upload the info

> > to

> > > your web site provider. You MUST upload BOTH the index_file folder

> > and

> > > the index file. I use a free ftp program called "ftp Commander".

> > Is

> > > extremely simple and works like a damn.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > RJT
> > >

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>
>
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