Question: W2K - ok to use as web server?

[VB Programmer]

We have several W2K machines that we want to use as web servers (using ISM,
..NET web applications, etc...)

We prefer NOT to upgrade to W2K Server. There shouldn't be more than 10-20
users at any given time on the website.

1. Will W2K handle this? Can I use it as a web server?
2. If a user "connects" to get the webpage I realize this is a very quick
action. Does W2K "free up" the user slot as soon as the page is served up?

Thanks,
Robert

[VB Programmer]

May I ask what number that is?

Thanks,
Robert

"Kevin Spencer" <kevin@takempis.com> wrote in message
news:ubSt9R4TDHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

> Your only problems will be with the limitations of the number of

concurrent

> users and webs on the version of IIS that runs on W2K Pro.
> --
> HTH,
>
> Kevin Spencer
> Microsoft MVP
> .Net Developer
> [url]http://www.takempis.com[/url]
> Big things are made up of
> lots of little things.
>
> "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
> news:u2L4Os3TDHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

> > We have several W2K machines that we want to use as web servers (using

> ISM,

> > .NET web applications, etc...)
> >
> > We prefer NOT to upgrade to W2K Server. There shouldn't be more than

> 10-20

> > users at any given time on the website.
> >
> > 1. Will W2K handle this? Can I use it as a web server?
> > 2. If a user "connects" to get the webpage I realize this is a very

quick

> > action. Does W2K "free up" the user slot as soon as the page is served

> up?

> >
> > Thanks,
> > Robert
> >
> >

>
>

[VB Programmer]

So, I assume that a user is considered "concurrent" only for the split
instant when he requests the page from the server, then the server gives him
the page. At that time it's not considered a "concurrent" user anymore.
Right?

Thanks,
Robert

"Bob" <sbsp@bis.com> wrote in message
news:OEdURB5TDHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

> Win2K Pro permits a maximum of 10 concurrent IIS connections.
>
> --
> Elliot M. Rodriguez, MCSD
> *** It would take 227 cans of Mountain Dew to kill me***
>
>
>
> "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
> news:e1Rhfk4TDHA.1912@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

> > May I ask what number that is?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Robert
> >
> > "Kevin Spencer" <kevin@takempis.com> wrote in message
> > news:ubSt9R4TDHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

> > > Your only problems will be with the limitations of the number of

> > concurrent

> > > users and webs on the version of IIS that runs on W2K Pro.
> > > --
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Kevin Spencer
> > > Microsoft MVP
> > > .Net Developer
> > > [url]http://www.takempis.com[/url]
> > > Big things are made up of
> > > lots of little things.
> > >
> > > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
> > > news:u2L4Os3TDHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > We have several W2K machines that we want to use as web servers

(using

> > > ISM,
> > > > .NET web applications, etc...)
> > > >
> > > > We prefer NOT to upgrade to W2K Server. There shouldn't be more

than

> > > 10-20
> > > > users at any given time on the website.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Will W2K handle this? Can I use it as a web server?
> > > > 2. If a user "connects" to get the webpage I realize this is a very

> > quick

> > > > action. Does W2K "free up" the user slot as soon as the page is

> served

> > > up?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Robert
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>

[Elliot M. Rodriguez]

Not necessarily. A session and a user are also related. If you have 10
sessions active, the 11th user will not be able to gain access to the site
(I think it returns a server too busy message, but I forget)

--
Elliot M. Rodriguez, MCSD
*** It would take 227 cans of Mountain Dew to kill me***



"VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
news:ORo2Qs5TDHA.2460@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

> So, I assume that a user is considered "concurrent" only for the split
> instant when he requests the page from the server, then the server gives

him

> the page. At that time it's not considered a "concurrent" user anymore.
> Right?
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
>
> "Bob" <sbsp@bis.com> wrote in message
> news:OEdURB5TDHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

> > Win2K Pro permits a maximum of 10 concurrent IIS connections.
> >
> > --
> > Elliot M. Rodriguez, MCSD
> > *** It would take 227 cans of Mountain Dew to kill me***
> >
> >
> >
> > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
> > news:e1Rhfk4TDHA.1912@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

> > > May I ask what number that is?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Robert
> > >
> > > "Kevin Spencer" <kevin@takempis.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ubSt9R4TDHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > Your only problems will be with the limitations of the number of
> > > concurrent
> > > > users and webs on the version of IIS that runs on W2K Pro.
> > > > --
> > > > HTH,
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Spencer
> > > > Microsoft MVP
> > > > .Net Developer
> > > > [url]http://www.takempis.com[/url]
> > > > Big things are made up of
> > > > lots of little things.
> > > >
> > > > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:u2L4Os3TDHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > We have several W2K machines that we want to use as web servers

> (using

> > > > ISM,
> > > > > .NET web applications, etc...)
> > > > >
> > > > > We prefer NOT to upgrade to W2K Server. There shouldn't be more

> than

> > > > 10-20
> > > > > users at any given time on the website.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Will W2K handle this? Can I use it as a web server?
> > > > > 2. If a user "connects" to get the webpage I realize this is a

very

> > > quick
> > > > > action. Does W2K "free up" the user slot as soon as the page is

> > served

> > > > up?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Robert
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>

[VB Programmer]

If I were to buy Windows Server which version do you recommend and any sites
where I can get it for cheap?

Thanks.

"Ricardo M. Urbano - W2K/NT4 MVP" <rmu1@columbiaSPAM.SUCKSedu> wrote in
message news:3F1C4A11.8CF900C7@columbiaSPAM.SUCKSedu...

> Not only that, but you will be violating the End User License Agreement
> (EULA) if you try to finagle your way around technicalities such as
> that. In fact, the wording of the EULA specifies that while W2K
> Workstation will allow up to 10 concurrent connections, it does not
> allow you to use it as a bonified "server" even if your requirements are
> less than 10 concurrent connections.
>
> "Elliot M. Rodriguez" wrote:

> >
> > Not necessarily. A session and a user are also related. If you have 10
> > sessions active, the 11th user will not be able to gain access to the

site

> > (I think it returns a server too busy message, but I forget)
> >
> > --
> > Elliot M. Rodriguez, MCSD
> > *** It would take 227 cans of Mountain Dew to kill me***
> >
> > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
> > news:ORo2Qs5TDHA.2460@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

> > > So, I assume that a user is considered "concurrent" only for the split
> > > instant when he requests the page from the server, then the server

gives

> > him

> > > the page. At that time it's not considered a "concurrent" user

anymore.

> > > Right?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Robert
> > >
> > > "Bob" <sbsp@bis.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OEdURB5TDHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > Win2K Pro permits a maximum of 10 concurrent IIS connections.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Elliot M. Rodriguez, MCSD
> > > > *** It would take 227 cans of Mountain Dew to kill me***
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:e1Rhfk4TDHA.1912@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > May I ask what number that is?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Robert
> > > > >
> > > > > "Kevin Spencer" <kevin@takempis.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:ubSt9R4TDHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Your only problems will be with the limitations of the number of
> > > > > concurrent
> > > > > > users and webs on the version of IIS that runs on W2K Pro.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kevin Spencer
> > > > > > Microsoft MVP
> > > > > > .Net Developer
> > > > > > [url]http://www.takempis.com[/url]
> > > > > > Big things are made up of
> > > > > > lots of little things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:u2L4Os3TDHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > We have several W2K machines that we want to use as web

servers

> > > (using
> > > > > > ISM,
> > > > > > > .NET web applications, etc...)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We prefer NOT to upgrade to W2K Server. There shouldn't be

more

> > > than
> > > > > > 10-20
> > > > > > > users at any given time on the website.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. Will W2K handle this? Can I use it as a web server?
> > > > > > > 2. If a user "connects" to get the webpage I realize this is

a

> > very

> > > > > quick
> > > > > > > action. Does W2K "free up" the user slot as soon as the page

is

> > > > served
> > > > > > up?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Robert
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

>
> --
> Ricardo M. Urbano
> Microsoft Windows 2000/NT MVP

[Elliot M. Rodriguez]

A version of Server should suffice. No need for Advanced; definitely not
Datacenter (I think thats what its called)

anyway, as far as "cheap" - server is not something you can simply buy off
the shelf at Best Buy or Circuit City. You will have to shop around, and
make sure you get it from a reputable company so you dont have to worry
about piracy complications.

--
Elliot M. Rodriguez, MCSD
*** It would take 227 cans of Mountain Dew to kill me***



"VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
news:eGbKxh8TDHA.2088@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

> If I were to buy Windows Server which version do you recommend and any

sites

> where I can get it for cheap?
>
> Thanks.
>
> "Ricardo M. Urbano - W2K/NT4 MVP" <rmu1@columbiaSPAM.SUCKSedu> wrote in
> message news:3F1C4A11.8CF900C7@columbiaSPAM.SUCKSedu...

> > Not only that, but you will be violating the End User License Agreement
> > (EULA) if you try to finagle your way around technicalities such as
> > that. In fact, the wording of the EULA specifies that while W2K
> > Workstation will allow up to 10 concurrent connections, it does not
> > allow you to use it as a bonified "server" even if your requirements are
> > less than 10 concurrent connections.
> >
> > "Elliot M. Rodriguez" wrote:

> > >
> > > Not necessarily. A session and a user are also related. If you have 10
> > > sessions active, the 11th user will not be able to gain access to the

> site

> > > (I think it returns a server too busy message, but I forget)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Elliot M. Rodriguez, MCSD
> > > *** It would take 227 cans of Mountain Dew to kill me***
> > >
> > > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ORo2Qs5TDHA.2460@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > So, I assume that a user is considered "concurrent" only for the

split

> > > > instant when he requests the page from the server, then the server

> gives

> > > him
> > > > the page. At that time it's not considered a "concurrent" user

> anymore.

> > > > Right?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Robert
> > > >
> > > > "Bob" <sbsp@bis.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:OEdURB5TDHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Win2K Pro permits a maximum of 10 concurrent IIS connections.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Elliot M. Rodriguez, MCSD
> > > > > *** It would take 227 cans of Mountain Dew to kill me***
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:e1Rhfk4TDHA.1912@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > May I ask what number that is?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Robert
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Kevin Spencer" <kevin@takempis.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:ubSt9R4TDHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > Your only problems will be with the limitations of the number

of

> > > > > > concurrent
> > > > > > > users and webs on the version of IIS that runs on W2K Pro.
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kevin Spencer
> > > > > > > Microsoft MVP
> > > > > > > .Net Developer
> > > > > > > [url]http://www.takempis.com[/url]
> > > > > > > Big things are made up of
> > > > > > > lots of little things.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:u2L4Os3TDHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > We have several W2K machines that we want to use as web

> servers

> > > > (using
> > > > > > > ISM,
> > > > > > > > .NET web applications, etc...)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We prefer NOT to upgrade to W2K Server. There shouldn't be

> more

> > > > than
> > > > > > > 10-20
> > > > > > > > users at any given time on the website.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. Will W2K handle this? Can I use it as a web server?
> > > > > > > > 2. If a user "connects" to get the webpage I realize this

is

> a

> > > very
> > > > > > quick
> > > > > > > > action. Does W2K "free up" the user slot as soon as the

page

> is

> > > > > served
> > > > > > > up?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > Robert
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> >
> > --
> > Ricardo M. Urbano
> > Microsoft Windows 2000/NT MVP

>
>

[VB Programmer]

I know Windows 2000 allows 10 concurrent users. I've seen "Windows 2000
SERVER (5-client)" for sale for like $900. Am I right that this means it
has LESS concurrent users allowed (only 5)? Why would I pay more for 1/2 of
the users?

Is this the cheapest, legit way of running a web server? Doesn't make
sense.

>

"Elliot M. Rodriguez" <sbsp@bis.com> wrote in message
news:uT98ju8TDHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

> A version of Server should suffice. No need for Advanced; definitely not
> Datacenter (I think thats what its called)
>
> anyway, as far as "cheap" - server is not something you can simply buy off
> the shelf at Best Buy or Circuit City. You will have to shop around, and
> make sure you get it from a reputable company so you dont have to worry
> about piracy complications.
>
> --
> Elliot M. Rodriguez, MCSD
> *** It would take 227 cans of Mountain Dew to kill me***
>
>
>
> "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
> news:eGbKxh8TDHA.2088@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

> > If I were to buy Windows Server which version do you recommend and any

> sites

> > where I can get it for cheap?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > "Ricardo M. Urbano - W2K/NT4 MVP" <rmu1@columbiaSPAM.SUCKSedu> wrote in
> > message news:3F1C4A11.8CF900C7@columbiaSPAM.SUCKSedu...

> > > Not only that, but you will be violating the End User License

Agreement

> > > (EULA) if you try to finagle your way around technicalities such as
> > > that. In fact, the wording of the EULA specifies that while W2K
> > > Workstation will allow up to 10 concurrent connections, it does not
> > > allow you to use it as a bonified "server" even if your requirements

are

> > > less than 10 concurrent connections.
> > >
> > > "Elliot M. Rodriguez" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Not necessarily. A session and a user are also related. If you have

10

> > > > sessions active, the 11th user will not be able to gain access to

the

> > site

> > > > (I think it returns a server too busy message, but I forget)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Elliot M. Rodriguez, MCSD
> > > > *** It would take 227 cans of Mountain Dew to kill me***
> > > >
> > > > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ORo2Qs5TDHA.2460@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > So, I assume that a user is considered "concurrent" only for the

> split

> > > > > instant when he requests the page from the server, then the server

> > gives

> > > > him
> > > > > the page. At that time it's not considered a "concurrent" user

> > anymore.

> > > > > Right?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Robert
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bob" <sbsp@bis.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:OEdURB5TDHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Win2K Pro permits a maximum of 10 concurrent IIS connections.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Elliot M. Rodriguez, MCSD
> > > > > > *** It would take 227 cans of Mountain Dew to kill me***
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:e1Rhfk4TDHA.1912@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > May I ask what number that is?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Robert
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kevin Spencer" <kevin@takempis.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:ubSt9R4TDHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > Your only problems will be with the limitations of the

number

> of

> > > > > > > concurrent
> > > > > > > > users and webs on the version of IIS that runs on W2K Pro.
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kevin Spencer
> > > > > > > > Microsoft MVP
> > > > > > > > .Net Developer
> > > > > > > > [url]http://www.takempis.com[/url]
> > > > > > > > Big things are made up of
> > > > > > > > lots of little things.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:u2L4Os3TDHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > We have several W2K machines that we want to use as web

> > servers

> > > > > (using
> > > > > > > > ISM,
> > > > > > > > > .NET web applications, etc...)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We prefer NOT to upgrade to W2K Server. There shouldn't

be

> > more

> > > > > than
> > > > > > > > 10-20
> > > > > > > > > users at any given time on the website.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. Will W2K handle this? Can I use it as a web server?
> > > > > > > > > 2. If a user "connects" to get the webpage I realize this

> is

> > a

> > > > very
> > > > > > > quick
> > > > > > > > > action. Does W2K "free up" the user slot as soon as the

> page

> > is

> > > > > > served
> > > > > > > > up?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > Robert
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ricardo M. Urbano
> > > Microsoft Windows 2000/NT MVP

> >
> >

>
>

[PL]

> But Windows Server 2003 Web Edition seems to go for around $400.

Isn't Web the most limited ? You are not even allowed to run SQL on it.
I'd be careful with that version, get Standard instead.

PL.

[Chris Barnes]

VB Programmer <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote:

> Is this the cheapest, legit way of running a web server? Doesn't make
> sense.

Quite honestly, if you just want to run a webserver, using Linux/Apache
is not only the cheapest, it's likely the best performing (for the type
of computer architecture you're talking about).

And for the record, I am NOT some sort of anti-MS basher. I simply
believe in using the right tool for the job.

--

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[email]chris@txbarnes.com[/email] Yahoo IM: chrisnbarnes

[VB Programmer]

And these webservers don't have trouble running .NET web applications and
serving up aspx pages, etc...?

"Chris Barnes" <chris-barnes@tamu.edu> wrote in message
news:uIUAdCIUDHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

> VB Programmer <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote:

> > Is this the cheapest, legit way of running a web server? Doesn't make
> > sense.

>
> Quite honestly, if you just want to run a webserver, using Linux/Apache
> is not only the cheapest, it's likely the best performing (for the type
> of computer architecture you're talking about).
>
> And for the record, I am NOT some sort of anti-MS basher. I simply
> believe in using the right tool for the job.
>
> --
>
> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
> Chris Barnes AOL IM: CNBarnes
> [email]chris@txbarnes.com[/email] Yahoo IM: chrisnbarnes
>
>

[Robert]

In article <OGbD99GUDHA.2088@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>, [email]pblse@yahoo.se[/email] says...

> > But Windows Server 2003 Web Edition seems to go for around $400.

>
> Isn't Web the most limited ? You are not even allowed to run SQL on it.
> I'd be careful with that version, get Standard instead.

Cheapest and most limited, yes. It's just just to be a... well, a web server.

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[Chris Barnes]

VB Programmer <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote:

> And these webservers don't have trouble running .NET web applications
> and serving up aspx pages, etc...?

Those were not mentioned in his list of requirements.


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[VB Programmer]

I did mention that (I originated this thread): "We have several W2K machines
that we want to use as web servers (using ISM,
..NET web applications, etc...)"

Any ideas if these programs can process/serve up .NET web applications?

Thanks.

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> VB Programmer <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote:

> > And these webservers don't have trouble running .NET web applications
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[PL]

> .... Just got an answer

There is currently no software that runs ASP.NET or webservices
on any other platform than Windows.

The Chilisoft ASP is just classic ASP and bad at that as well.

PL.