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FYI Here is the list of changes: <http://forum.pixmantec.com/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1410/an/0/page/0#1410> The free update is available from: http://www.pixmantec.com/index2.html Bart...

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    FYI

    Here is the list of changes:
    <http://forum.pixmantec.com/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1410/an/0/page/0#1410>

    The free update is available from:
    http://www.pixmantec.com/index2.html

    Bart

    Bart Guest

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    "Bart van der Wolf" <spam> wrote in message
    news:42323f58$0$28976$xs4all.nl... 
    I'm very curious about this 'romance' you have with picmantec, Bart. Do you
    favour this program because it has no automation, putting the end results in
    your hands alone or is there some other reason? I downloaded it at your
    suggestion and came to the conclusion it is not a photographers tool but a
    computerists one.

    As a photographer, I prefer not to dwell on post processing any more than I
    have to. I do shoot RAW but for me, the work afterwards is a right royal
    pain. I much prefer DxO because it addresses the faults in my lenses and
    makes a very nice conversion of the data to an image file. The subtlety of
    pastel colours is often lost in today's saturated images.

    Sure some of the files could do with a touch-up in Photoshop after
    conversion but on the whole, it is the closest I have come to the days when
    I shot film, sent it to a lab and ordered prints from the proofs. It seems
    to me that far too many programs exist now that demand so much extra
    learning or personal input after the shoot as to make the art of photography
    far too complicated.

    Your reply is eagerly awaited.

    It's actually Ryadia here.
    My PC is being upgraded so I'm using daughters until it comes back.


    one Guest

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    I wonder when they will support Fuji finepix?

    Any ideas

    John D


    John Guest

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    As a "photographer" I assume that you never did any post processing in the
    dark room, just printed the negatives.


    Arthur Guest

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    "Arthur Small" <rr.com> wrote in message
    news:SBEYd.89171$nyroc.rr.com... 
    I hardly think you could have read the post properly, Arthur. Having a lab
    process the film and provide proofs from which to order prints from
    ....carries with it the hint of a suggestion that maybe the "Photographer" is
    a Photographer and not a lab technician.

    Somehow I can't see sitting in front of a computer making adjustments and
    corrections to a photo which on film would have required the shot to have
    been made correctly in the first place, as being a Photographer. In the days
    before Digital SLRs, Photographers lived or died (professionally speaking)
    by their ability to get it right in the camera.

    Even today, Photographers have the ability film shooters don't have to see
    the results of the shot instantly and re-shoot it if it's wrong. Film
    shooters had to use quite expensive Polaroids to get this opportunity.
    Photoshop is a less than good photographer's way out of a lot of problems
    they should never have gotten into in the first place.

    D


    Douglas Guest

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    It has a nice sharpening algorithm but I'm completely unimpressed with the
    accuracy of the RAW colorization.
    Bubbabob Guest

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    In article <168.3.30>,
    Bubbabob <net> wrote: 


    I'd love to be able to try it. But unfortunately I'm one of those
    folks that has been unable to persuade the program to get beyond the
    registration screen.

    It pops up a dialog box asking for my name, address, and email.
    I click "OK", and it obviously goes out and talks to the pixmantec
    servers, because I get an email almost immediately.

    But that's it. Nothing else - the program just hangs, not responding.

    Can anyone who has succesfully installed it tell me what is supposed
    to happen next?

    John Guest

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    Bart van der Wolf wrote:
     

    To those who have installed this software:
    have you thoroughly checked it for spyware?
    Has anyone found any spyware issues?
    Free software usually comes with a catch.

    Roger
    Roger Guest

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    In message <d10mpa$sjr$panix.com>,
    com (John Francis) wrote:
     
    >
    >
    >I'd love to be able to try it. But unfortunately I'm one of those
    >folks that has been unable to persuade the program to get beyond the
    >registration screen.
    >
    >It pops up a dialog box asking for my name, address, and email.
    >I click "OK", and it obviously goes out and talks to the pixmantec
    >servers, because I get an email almost immediately.
    >
    >But that's it. Nothing else - the program just hangs, not responding.
    >
    >Can anyone who has succesfully installed it tell me what is supposed
    >to happen next?[/ref]

    This happened to me, also. I got the wrong e-mail, though. Rather than
    a "thanks for registering" message, I got the initial invitation to
    download the program again, with a link. The program seemed to be
    unresponsive, so i killed it. I did this twice, and finally, the third
    time, I just let the program sit for about 20 minutes with its
    hourglass, and finally a message popped up saying registration was
    unsuccessful, and when I clicked "OK", the program opened up. I haven't
    closed the program yet, so I don't know what happens next.

    I don't think that they have their server worked out right, just yet.
    When I originally requested the program from the website, I got no
    e-mail back until regular business hours the next day, as if the e-mail
    was sent by a human (or a human rebooting or powering up a computer).
    --

    <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<>
    John P Sheehy <komm> 
    JPS@no.komm Guest

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    Nothing found with my usual anti-virus and spyware kit. I don't think there
    is a catch with this software as such. I rather think the author is letting
    it go free for a while, hopeing that folks like ourselves report back with
    bugs, ie beta testing. Already, from this thread alone, there are a number
    of issues that need to be sorted before they can reasonably ask money for
    it.

    John D


    John Guest

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    Are you using XP SP2? I found that after upgrading my machine to SP2, I
    found all sorts of problems including similar instances like yours. I went
    back to XP SP1 and everything returned to normal. I also wonder if your copy
    was corrupted in the download, have you tried to download again?

    John D
     


    John Guest

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    >Roger Clark writes ... 

    I checked it with Spybot and with the McAfee programs and saw no
    problems. You have to give it permission to transmit to the mother
    ship to register (meaning giving it permission via the Firewall), but
    after registration you can remove it from the approved list and restore
    the Firewall.
     

    The main programmer wrote the basic code for Capture One before going
    off on his own, I think he's trying to capture market share quickly and
    also getting the benefit of thousands of free beta software users'
    inputs. Looks like he'll offer a more fully featured version for $$
    later (probably with interpolation, rotation, CMYK support, custom
    profiling etc, similar to Capture One's $500 Pro version). This free
    version of RSE looks a lot like the $99 Capture One LE program, with a
    similar feature set but just enough subtle improvements to make it very
    enticing. There is little question that he's going after Capture One's
    customers (and doing a good job of it so far).

    Also he's in partnership with Corel and supplying this converter in a
    deal with Corel Paint Shop Pro, so this isn't your typical hobbyist
    offering a half-baked freebie.

    Bill

    Bill Guest

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    In rec.photo.digital Douglas <com> wrote:
     [/ref]
     
     

    A good digital camera has a Dmax of something like 3.5, corresponding
    to a dynamic range of a bit more than 10 stops. The Dmax of a colour
    print is maybe 1.5 on a good day. So, somehow you have to compress
    the dynamic range of the real world into somthing that can actually be
    printed, and that's where the printer's expertise comes in.

    In the days before Digital SLRs, this adjustment was done by the
    scanner operator.

    Andrew.
    andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid Guest

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    In article <d11paa$qge$svr.pol.co.uk>,
    John DH <co.uknospamm> wrote: 

    No - SP1 (plus several security updates).
    It fails the same way with the initial (1.0) download,
    and with the new (1.1) version.
     
    >
    >[/ref]


    John Guest

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    "Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark)" <net>
    wrote in message news:net... 
    >
    > To those who have installed this software:
    > have you thoroughly checked it for spyware?[/ref]

    Yes, checked and found to be clean.
     

    None.
     

    Yes, the catch is that is isn't going to be full featured, the payware
    version will be. It is a product made by former Phase One staff, which
    may also be the reason for the delays Phase One suffered adding
    Windows support for their v3.6 update of Capture One (I already heard
    a rumor a long time ago that they had to recode part of C1 due to a
    programmer quitting).

    Bart

    Bart Guest

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    <invalid> wrote in message
    news:supernews.com...
     

    Actually Andrew...
    In the days before Digital, this adjustment was not possible without making
    a negative 'mask' for a transparency and it was all done in a chemical
    environment. A contact print of the trannie made on mono film and then
    printed through an optical enlarger. Not something many photographers
    actually did because it was a specialised process and just as time consuming
    as taking the photo in the first place.

    Douglas


    Douglas Guest

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    "John Francis" <com> wrote in message
    news:d1213r$3a$panix.com... 
    >
    > No - SP1 (plus several security updates).
    > It fails the same way with the initial (1.0) download,
    > and with the new (1.1) version.[/ref]

    I'd assume it's something particular about your setup (firewall
    prevents installation time validation?), or perhaps it assumes XP SP2.
    After downloading you should just fill in your registration details
    and click next for each default choice presented. Send them a message
    to their support forum, they'd probably want to solve it.

    Bart

    Bart Guest

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    In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Douglas <com> wrote:
     
     [/ref]
     
     

    Well, that's what happens if a wet print is your target, but okay.
     

    So, you know that making adjustments is necessary, and you know that
    it was necessary long before the advent of digital. Then why did you
    say
     [/ref]

    Are we just quibbling about the definition of the word "Photographer"
    meaning someone who only shoots? So that when someone is making a
    print they aren't being a Photographer?

    Andrew.
    andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid Guest

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    "Douglas" <com> wrote in message
    news:net... 

    When I was a lad, I did this kind of thing in a darkroom... I thought of
    myself as a photographer then...

    In my Photo club, there are a bunch of ogue photographers who don't
    shoot slide... They send in their film and let the machine return it
    properly colour balanced to neutral grey.... I allow that they are
    photographers, but they need to learn how to expose an image so that the
    machines do a decent job of it.

    The Pinnacle of achievement is of course slide film, where the range of
    latitude after the shot to fix things is less... (unless you know how and
    are part of an elite bunch.. )

    But how is someone stacking filters onto the front of a camera lens more of
    a "photograper" than someone who does it after the fact... regardless of how
    he does it?

    If you want to join a club where only images shot a certain way, and
    developed a certain way, and printed a certain way are considered
    acceptable, then you need to start one with a complicated title me
    thinks.... Perhaps "Real Photographers who manipulate their images in the
    Camera" would do for a start.

    Maybe there's a call for camera manufacturers to start an image security
    standard so that people strutting around with the "no digital manipulation"
    (while using a digital camera... <snicker> =) mantra can have "proof" that
    they didn't do anything to the image but print it from the camera...

    Honestly... what a bunch of crap. The best digital photographers out there
    IMHO know how to use the camera, understand depth of field, exposure and
    composition.... and aren't afraid to finish the job on the computer... If
    we all want to start little clubs where this process is sanctioned, but
    "that one" is not... then we will all belong to a lot of tiny clubs of
    one...

    Al...


    Alan Guest

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