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  1. #1

    Default regular expression question

    Hello,

    is it possible to make a regular expression match for the following
    situation:

    I have a string, looking like 'foobarbarbar'. I don't know what foo is,
    nor what bar is, the only thing I know is that I have a string X,
    concatenated an undefined number of times with a string Y. My goal is to
    find out how many times this string Y (bar) is repeted, without knowing
    what it exactly is.

    Something like ^.*(.*)*$ maybe?

    greetings,
    BBBart

    Bart Van Loon Guest

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  3. #2

    Default Re: regular expression question

    In article <UbNVa.749247$V9.63522550@amsnews02.chello.com>,
    Bart Van Loon <bbbart@kotnet.org> wrote:

    : I have a string, looking like 'foobarbarbar'. I don't know what foo
    : is, nor what bar is, the only thing I know is that I have a string X,
    : concatenated an undefined number of times with a string Y. My goal is
    : to find out how many times this string Y (bar) is repeted, without
    : knowing what it exactly is.

    % cat try
    #! /usr/local/bin/perl

    use warnings;
    use strict;

    my $X = 'foo';
    my $Y = 'bar';

    my $re = qr/^ $X ($Y)+ $/x;

    for (qw/ foo foobarbarbar foobar barbarfoo /) {
    if (/$re/) {
    print "Match for [$_]\n";
    }
    else {
    print "No match for [$_]\n";
    }
    }
    % ./try
    No match for [foo]
    Match for [foobarbarbar]
    Match for [foobar]
    No match for [barbarfoo]

    You may need to use quotemeta, depending on how you want to match.

    Hope this helps,
    Greg
    --
    I'm proud to be a taxpaying American, but I could be just as proud for
    half the money!
    -- Will Rogers
    Greg Bacon Guest

  4. #3

    Default Re: regular expression question

    On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:35:32 GMT, Bart Van Loon <bbbart@kotnet.org> wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > is it possible to make a regular expression match for the following
    > situation:
    >
    > I have a string, looking like 'foobarbarbar'. I don't know what foo is,
    > nor what bar is, the only thing I know is that I have a string X,
    > concatenated an undefined number of times with a string Y. My goal is to
    > find out how many times this string Y (bar) is repeted, without knowing
    > what it exactly is.
    >
    > Something like ^.*(.*)*$ maybe?
    What's the point of a regular expression which matches all
    strings (assumming /s is used)?

    And do you use (.*)* because you want some extra added slowness?

    My naive approach would be to use something like (assumming "undefined
    number" means 2 or more - since otherwise it doesn't make sense):

    $_='foobarbarbar';
    if (/^(.+?)((.+)\3+)$/s) {
    print "X is $1\n";
    print "Y is $3\n";
    print "There are " . length($2)/length($3) . " repetitions of Y\n";
    }

    But that fails to match. However, /^(foo)((.+)\3+)$/ matches (and is what
    I tested the code with).

    Since (.+?) can match "foo", I think the first regular expression should
    match (after a fair bit of backtracking - guess the second .+ might be
    more efficient as .+?, but that's beside the point).

    echo "foobarbarbar" | egrep '^(.+)((.+)\3+)$'

    outputs "foobarbarbar" (I realise that \1 will be "foobar" and \2 "barbar"
    so the match is slightly different), so it seems to do what I would expect.

    Is this a bug in perl? Or is my knowedge of regexes faulty?

    I suspect the second, but (other than embaressment) it can't hurt to ask.

    --
    Sam Holden

    Sam Holden Guest

  5. #4

    Default Re: regular expression question

    Bart Van Loon wrote at Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:35:32 +0000:
    > is it possible to make a regular expression match for the following
    > situation:
    >
    > I have a string, looking like 'foobarbarbar'. I don't know what foo is,
    > nor what bar is, the only thing I know is that I have a string X,
    > concatenated an undefined number of times with a string Y. My goal is to
    > find out how many times this string Y (bar) is repeted, without knowing
    > what it exactly is.
    >
    > Something like ^.*(.*)*$ maybe?
    perl -e '$_ = "foobarbarbar"; /((.*)\2+)$/; print length($1)/length($2)'


    Greetings,
    Janek
    Janek Schleicher Guest

  6. #5

    Default Re: regular expression question

    Janek Schleicher wrote:
    > perl -e '$_ = "foobarbarbar"; /((.*)\2+)$/; print length($1)/length($2)'
    perl -e '$_ = "foobarbarbarbar"; /((.*)\2+)$/; print length($1)/length($2)'
    returns 2 (barbar x 2)
    So it seems to work with odd number of concats only.

    Jay
    Jay Flaherty Guest

  7. #6

    Default Re: regular expression question

    Jay Flaherty wrote at Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:14:50 -0400:
    > Janek Schleicher wrote:
    >
    >> perl -e '$_ = "foobarbarbar"; /((.*)\2+)$/; print length($1)/length($2)'
    >
    > perl -e '$_ = "foobarbarbarbar"; /((.*)\2+)$/; print length($1)/length($2)'
    > returns 2 (barbar x 2)
    > So it seems to work with odd number of concats only.
    No, it only returns prime numbers.
    In fact "barbarbarbar" is "barbar" x 2.
    And only prime number occurences can't be divided:

    But if it is meant that the shortest repeating part should be counted,
    you can use instead the non greedy version:

    perl -e '$_ = "foobarbarbarbar"; /((.*?)\2+)$/; print length($1)/length($2)'
    ^

    Greetings,
    Janek
    Janek Schleicher Guest

  8. #7

    Default Regular expression question

    So I want to grab the attributes out of an HTML element. The following
    works, except in the case that the attribute's value includes the character
    ">":

    if (preg_match_all("/<tag([^>]*)>/i", $subject, $matches))
    print_r($matches);

    A $subject of "<tag attr=\"value\">" gives:

    Array
    (
    [0] => Array
    (
    [0] =>
    )

    [1] => Array
    (
    [0] => attr="value"
    )

    )

    A $subject of "<tag attr=\">\">" gives:

    Array
    (
    [0] => Array
    (
    [0] =>

    Thanks for any help,
    -Dan

    Dan Phiffer Guest

  9. #8

    Default Re: Regular Expression Question

    Awrigh01 wrote:
    > I have been working with regular expressions and was wondering if
    > anyone can help me tackle this problem.
    >
    > I was wondering if anyone could help me with a regular expression to
    > strip the following two text patterns:
    >
    > Bob Jones Comm'n College, Inc.,
    > Tufts University,
    >
    > I believe that this pattern should strip words that begin with capital
    > letters:
    > [A-Z]\w*(\s+[A-Z]\w*)*
    >
    > Could someone help me with a pattern than would get both words that
    > begin with capital letters or a non-word character like a "," or "."
    I think it would help if you were to refine the question a litle more.

    Do I understand correctly that you want to strip away lines that begin
    with text like:

    Bob Jones Comm'n College, Inc.,
    Tufts University,

    Put more generally, do you want to strip away lines that contain
    words that always begin with uppercase letters?

    Do these kind of lines occur at the same place in each file?

    What kind of data do you *not* want to strip away?

    Hope this helps,

    Look forward to seeing your follow up.

    Simon Taylor

    Simon Taylor Guest

  10. #9

    Default Re: Regular Expression Question

    Sorry about not being clear. I appreciate the help so far. I am
    searching through a text file read through line by line.

    I want to be able to identify word patterns that occur consecutively
    in the same line, such as: A Man Walks Down The Street. (including the
    spaces)

    This regular expression identifies this pattern:
    [A-Z]\w*(\s+[A-Z]\w*)*.

    However, there is another twist, sometimes the pattern will include a
    comma, dash, hyphen, an "&", or a period, such as Johnson & Johnson
    CauLife Ins. Co.

    I can't figure out how to generally identify both "A Man Walks Down
    The Street" and "Johnson & Johnson CauLife Ins. Co." in one regular
    expression.

    I hope this is clearer, and thanks again for any help.

    Thanks.

    Simon Taylor <simon@unisolve.com.au> wrote in message news:<bhsl32$ni6$1@otis.netspace.net.au>...
    > Awrigh01 wrote:
    >
    > > I have been working with regular expressions and was wondering if
    > > anyone can help me tackle this problem.
    > >
    > > I was wondering if anyone could help me with a regular expression to
    > > strip the following two text patterns:
    > >
    > > Bob Jones Comm'n College, Inc.,
    > > Tufts University,
    > >
    > > I believe that this pattern should strip words that begin with capital
    > > letters:
    > > [A-Z]\w*(\s+[A-Z]\w*)*
    > >
    > > Could someone help me with a pattern than would get both words that
    > > begin with capital letters or a non-word character like a "," or "."
    >
    > I think it would help if you were to refine the question a litle more.
    >
    > Do I understand correctly that you want to strip away lines that begin
    > with text like:
    >
    > Bob Jones Comm'n College, Inc.,
    > Tufts University,
    >
    > Put more generally, do you want to strip away lines that contain
    > words that always begin with uppercase letters?
    >
    > Do these kind of lines occur at the same place in each file?
    >
    > What kind of data do you *not* want to strip away?
    >
    > Hope this helps,
    >
    > Look forward to seeing your follow up.
    >
    > Simon Taylor
    Awrigh01 Guest

  11. #10

    Default Re: Regular Expression Question

    Awrigh01 wrote:
    > Sorry about not being clear. I appreciate the help so far. I am
    > searching through a text file read through line by line.
    >
    > I want to be able to identify word patterns that occur consecutively
    > in the same line, such as: A Man Walks Down The Street. (including the
    > spaces)
    >
    > This regular expression identifies this pattern:
    > [A-Z]\w*(\s+[A-Z]\w*)*.
    >
    > However, there is another twist, sometimes the pattern will include a
    > comma, dash, hyphen, an "&", or a period, such as Johnson & Johnson
    > CauLife Ins. Co.
    >
    > I can't figure out how to generally identify both "A Man Walks Down
    > The Street" and "Johnson & Johnson CauLife Ins. Co." in one regular
    > expression.
    Here is a snippet of code that matches lines in a file that contain only
    words that start with an upper-case character, as well the other cases
    you've mentioned.

    #!/usr/bin/perl -w
    use strict;

    while (<>) {
    print " line: $_";
    print "matched: $_" if ($_ =~ m/^([A-Z&]\S*\s*)+$/);
    }

    and here is the sample data file I used:

    Cats
    Cats And Dogs
    Ignore this line?
    A Man Walks Down The Street
    Johnson & Johnson CauLife Ins. Co.
    johnson & johnson CauLife Ins. Co. - Gets Ignored
    Ignore this line, also?
    Should, See This Line
    Should-see This Line

    It works as I think you intend.

    However, I can't help but wondering whether we are building a regular
    expression that is in danger of being too-specific and therefore a bit
    fragile.

    Sometimes it pays to think negatively with RE's. Identify the stuff that
    you don't want to match and do away with it first. This often results in
    code that runs faster and the analysis that it forces you to do helps
    clear up what it is you're really after.

    Hope this helps.

    Also check out

    perldoc perlre

    Regards,

    Simon Taylor





    Simon Taylor Guest

  12. #11

    Default Re: Regular Expression Question

    Simon Taylor wrote:
    > Awrigh01 wrote:
    (snipped)
    > > I want to be able to identify word patterns that occur consecutively
    > > in the same line, such as: A Man Walks Down The Street. (including the
    > > spaces)
    > > This regular expression identifies this pattern:
    > > [A-Z]\w*(\s+[A-Z]\w*)*.
    > > However, there is another twist, sometimes the pattern will include a
    > > comma, dash, hyphen, an "&", or a period, such as Johnson & Johnson
    > > CauLife Ins. Co.
    > Here is a snippet of code
    > while (<>) {
    > print " line: $_";
    > print "matched: $_" if ($_ =~ m/^([A-Z&]\S*\s*)+$/);
    > }
    > However, I can't help but wondering whether we are building a regular
    > expression that is in danger of being too-specific and therefore a bit
    > fragile.

    Yours is a rather robust regex within parameters stated.
    I really had to grasp at straws to find a code breaker,
    at least reasonably within parameters. Nice regex is yours.

    Beneath my signature is a "thinking outside the box" model
    which is klunky and certainly less efficient than yours.
    Mine is a mathematical model.

    This counting method would be much easier if Perl's /regex/
    match function could return a count instead of a match.

    My method will fail if leading or trailing spaces are present,
    or if multiple spaces are present. Within parameters, it does
    ok but is not very efficient.

    You will note I changed your data around a bit. Your method
    and my method return slightly different results. Nonetheless,
    your regex is a preferred method along with being easy-to-read.


    Purl Gurl
    --

    #!perl

    while (<DATA>)
    {
    if (($_ =~ /^[A-Z]/) && ($_ =~ tr/ // == (() = $_ =~ / [^a-z]/g)))
    { print $_; }
    }

    __DATA__
    Cats
    Cats AND Dogs
    Cats - Dogs
    Cats-Dogs
    Ignore this line?
    A Man Walks Down The Street
    Johnson & Johnson CauLife Ins. Co.
    johnson & johnson CauLife Ins. Co. - Gets Ignored
    Ignore this Line, also?
    Should, See This Line
    Should-see This Line
    Purl Gurl Guest

  13. #12

    Default Regular expression question

    I'm sure this is trivial, but I don't have my Mastering Regular Expressions handy (and I haven't put sufficient effort into getting through it!).

    I have a string that looks something like ...
    >>"Guido van Rossum", "Larry Wall", "Matz"<<
    (ie, it's the set of quoted strings between the markers). What I'd like to do is split the string up into an array containing the three quoted items (with or without the quote marks).

    At some point, I'd probably also like to use something like \" to represent a quote within a string.

    I'm sorry to say that I'm actually having to do this in Java (it's a work thing), so I'll have to do some mangling of whatever the "correct" regex is, but that's OK ... well, it's not, but I'll have to live with it :-).

    Cheers,

    H.



    Harry Ohlsen Guest

  14. #13

    Default Re: Regular expression question

    Typing straight from Mr Friedl, this is the java.util.regex version for
    CSV...

    Pattern pCSVMain = Pattern.compile(
    "\\G(?:^|,) \n"+
    "(?: \n"+
    " # Either a double-quoted field... \n"+
    " \" #field's opening quote \n"+
    " ( (?> [^\"]*+ ) (?> \"\" [^\"]*+ ) *+ ) \n"+
    " \" # field's closing quote \n"+
    " # ... or ... \n"+
    " | \n"+
    " # ... some non-quote/non-comma text ... \n"+
    " ( [^\",]*+ ) \n"+
    ") \n",
    Pattern.COMMENTS);

    I hope I haven't made any transcription errors; I'm not very
    Java-literate...

    While I love the book, I sometimes think some kind of "Regexp Cookbook"
    might be a big timesaver as I hunt for the thing I need, not being enough of
    a regular Regexp user or having enough brainpower to keep stuff in my head.

    HTH,

    Mike
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Harry Ohlsen [mailto:harryo@qiqsolutions.com]
    > Sent: 21 August 2003 08:54
    > To: [email]ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org[/email]
    > Subject: Regular expression question
    >
    >
    > I'm sure this is trivial, but I don't have my Mastering
    > Regular Expressions handy (and I haven't put sufficient
    > effort into getting through it!).
    >
    > I have a string that looks something like ...
    >
    > >>"Guido van Rossum", "Larry Wall", "Matz"<<
    >
    > (ie, it's the set of quoted strings between the markers).
    > What I'd like to do is split the string up into an array
    > containing the three quoted items (with or without the quote marks).
    >
    > At some point, I'd probably also like to use something like
    > \" to represent a quote within a string.
    >
    > I'm sorry to say that I'm actually having to do this in Java
    > (it's a work thing), so I'll have to do some mangling of
    > whatever the "correct" regex is, but that's OK ... well, it's
    > not, but I'll have to live with it :-).
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > H.
    >
    >
    >

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    Woodhouse, Mike (ANTS) Guest

  15. #14

    Default Re: Regular expression question

    On Thursday 21 August 2003 13:23, [email]dblack@superlink.net[/email] wrote:
    > Something like this (tweaked as needed) should work:
    >
    > irb(main):006:0> str
    > => "\"Guido van Rossum\", \"Larry Wall\", \"Matz\""
    > irb(main):007:0> str.scan(/".+?"/)
    > => ["\"Guido van Rossum\"", "\"Larry Wall\"", "\"Matz\""]
    Harry asked for support for \"s inside strings as well. For that a bit
    more of work is needed:

    test = '>>"Guido", "Larry", "Matz", "foo \"bar\""<<'
    puts test.scan(/"(?:\\.|[^"\\])*"/)

    gives

    "Guido"
    "Larry"
    "Matz"
    "foo \"bar\""

    A post-process of the result would unescape those \" easily if wanted.

    -- fxn


    Xavier Noria Guest

  16. #15

    Default Re: Regular expression question

    Woodhouse, Mike (ANTS) wrote:
    >Typing straight from Mr Friedl, this is the java.util.regex version for
    >CSV...
    >
    >Pattern pCSVMain = Pattern.compile(
    >"\\G(?:^|,) \n"+
    >"(?: \n"+
    >" # Either a double-quoted field... \n"+
    >" \" #field's opening quote \n"+
    >" ( (?> [^\"]*+ ) (?> \"\" [^\"]*+ ) *+ ) \n"+
    >" \" # field's closing quote \n"+
    >" # ... or ... \n"+
    >" | \n"+
    >" # ... some non-quote/non-comma text ... \n"+
    >" ( [^\",]*+ ) \n"+
    >") \n",
    >Pattern.COMMENTS);
    >
    >
    Thanks.

    Whew! I remember reading the (probably perl) equivalent of that when I
    made my first pass through the book, but had forgotten how tricky it was
    :-).

    Thanks for that. I'll give it a go when I get to work this morning.
    >I hope I haven't made any transcription errors; I'm not very
    >Java-literate...
    >
    Not to worry, I'll hunt out my copy of the book over the weekend (it's
    in one of the many boxes of books in the garage since my last move).
    >While I love the book, I sometimes think some kind of "Regexp Cookbook"
    >might be a big timesaver as I hunt for the thing I need, not being enough of
    >a regular Regexp user or having enough brainpower to keep stuff in my head.
    >
    Yes, regexes are a classic case where a cookbook would probably be
    invaluable. I must admit, though, that generally I can get a regex for
    most things with minimal effort. It's just when you have things like
    this where the alternative is splitting the problem into a bunch of
    regexes that having a recipe like that would be very very handy.

    Cheers,

    Harry O.



    Harry Ohlsen Guest

  17. #16

    Default Re: Regular expression question

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    Xavier Noria wrote:
    >On Thursday 21 August 2003 13:23, [email]dblack@superlink.net[/email] wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>Something like this (tweaked as needed) should work:
    >>
    >> irb(main):006:0> str
    >> => "\"Guido van Rossum\", \"Larry Wall\", \"Matz\""
    >> irb(main):007:0> str.scan(/".+?"/)
    >> => ["\"Guido van Rossum\"", "\"Larry Wall\"", "\"Matz\""]
    >>
    >>
    >
    >Harry asked for support for \"s inside strings as well. For that a bit
    >more of work is needed:
    >
    > test = '>>"Guido", "Larry", "Matz", "foo \"bar\""<<'
    > puts test.scan(/"(?:\\.|[^"\\])*"/)
    >
    >gives
    >
    > "Guido"
    > "Larry"
    > "Matz"
    > "foo \"bar\""
    >
    >
    >
    Thanks to both of you. I like that a lot better than the long one from
    MRE that Mike posted, but I guess I'll have to try some complex cases to
    see that it works 100%.

    Cheers,

    Harry O.



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    Xavier Noria wrote:<br>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid200308211858.19963.fxn@hashref.com">
    <pre wrap="">On Thursday 21 August 2003 13:23, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dblack@superlink.net">dblack@superlin k.net</a> wrote:

    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">Something like this (tweaked as needed) should work:

    irb(main):006:0&gt; str
    =&gt; "\"Guido van Rossum\", \"Larry Wall\", \"Matz\""
    irb(main):007:0&gt; str.scan(/".+?"/)
    =&gt; ["\"Guido van Rossum\"", "\"Larry Wall\"", "\"Matz\""]
    </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap=""><!---->
    Harry asked for support for \"s inside strings as well. For that a bit
    more of work is needed:

    test = '&gt;&gt;"Guido", "Larry", "Matz", "foo \"bar\""&lt;&lt;'
    puts test.scan(/"(?:\\.|[^"\\])*"/)

    gives

    "Guido"
    "Larry"
    "Matz"
    "foo \"bar\""

    </pre>
    </blockquote>
    Thanks to both of you.&nbsp; I like that a lot better than the long one from
    MRE that Mike posted, but I guess I'll have to try some complex cases
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    Harry Ohlsen Guest

  18. #17

    Default Re: Regular Expression Question

    Mike Flannigan <mikeflan@earthlink.net> wrote:
    > Simon Taylor wrote:
    >
    >> print "matched: $_" if ($_ =~ m/^([A-Z&]\S*\s*)+$/);
    > I just have to ask, what is that '&' in [A-Z&] doing?

    Matching an ampersand character.

    The whole character class will match a single character, as long
    as it is one of those 27 characters.

    > Is it just matching anything that starts with '&' in addition
    > to A-Z? I suspect not - I suspect it's doing something else.

    No, the ampersand is not doing that.

    The ampersand and the character class and the anchor is doing that though.

    What a component of a regex does depends on the entire regex.


    --
    Tad McClellan SGML consulting
    [email]tadmc@augustmail.com[/email] Perl programming
    Fort Worth, Texas
    Tad McClellan Guest

  19. #18

    Default regular expression question

    In the following regular express
    $_="BCADeFGHIJKL";
    if (/\L[\w]\E/) { print "true"} else { print "false\n" };
    if (/\U[\w]\E/) { print "true"} else { print "false\n" };

    why the first one print true while the second one print false?
    Can someone explain \L \U?
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    Default Regular Expression Question

    Hello, I need to have my span tags on one line. I presently have something
    like this: <span class='whatever'> text1 text2 </span> when I'd like: <span
    class='whatever'>text1 text2</span> I'm using DW MX 2004. Thank you in
    advance, Ellen :)

    EllenM Guest

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