small horizontal Popup Menu

[raschwa webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

My horizontal popup menu looks like this:

car (emty place ...........) |bike (emty place ...........) |all the other vehicles|

( All points have the same length)

instead of

car | bike | all the other vehicles |

Is it possible to generate the menu, that all points need only as small place as possible?

Thanks for answer

R. Schwarz

[Coen Naninck]

Yes it is possible Raschwa.
Take a look at the file I made for you. Load it into Fireworks and press
F12 to preview it. Roll over the buttons for the rollover effect.
You can download it at the supplied location.

Let me know if this is what you need and/or if you want to know how it
was done.

Download the file from here: [url]http://www.wetworks.nl/forum/raschwa.png[/url]

Cheers!

"raschwa" [email]webforumsuser@macromedia.com[/email] wrote:

> My horizontal popup menu looks like this:
>
> car (emty place ...........) |bike (emty place ...........) |all the other vehicles|
>
> ( All points have the same length)
>
> instead of
>
> car | bike | all the other vehicles |
>
> Is it possible to generate the menu, that all points need only as small place as possible?
>
> Thanks for answer
>
> R. Schwarz
>
>
>
>
>

--
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[benzinadesign webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

hi there!
I have the same problem right now! Unfortunally the link that you posted it isn't working.. :(
Can you put it online again'

Thanks

[benzinadesign webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

I downloaded your file, COEN. It's a simple rollover effect. How can i use it on a pop-up menu?
For instance, your example works in "mouseover" but in when i "mouseout" the menu disapears.. (sorry for the bad english..) because in my case the button and the pop-up menu are not next to each other.
If you want i can send you what i am talking about


Any sugestions appreciated..

Filipe Dinis

[ra_schwa webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Hi

I have made an example to show the problem. Please look at

[url]http://www.raschwa.de/test/popup_test.htm[/url] and go with the mouse to "Journey with ..."

The appearing popup-menu is too large, because I don´t know, how to bring the appearing points more together!

I´m sorry, because my English is so bad!

Thanks for answer

R. Schwarz

[Coen Naninck]

I need the original PNG file. Please send to [email]ccnk@home.nl[/email]

"ra_schwa" [email]webforumsuser@macromedia.com[/email] wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have made an example to show the problem. Please look at
>
> [url]http://www.raschwa.de/test/popup_test.htm[/url] and go with the mouse to "Journey with ..."
>
> The appearing popup-menu is too large, because I don´t know, how to bring the appearing points more together!
>
> I´m sorry, because my English is so bad!
>
> Thanks for answer
>
> R. Schwarz
>
>
>
>

--
Good luck!

Coen Naninck
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[Coen Naninck]

This menu was not done with the use of a popupmenu. You used Show/Hide
Layers right?

"benzinadesign" [email]webforumsuser@macromedia.com[/email] wrote:

> Yes i want that the menu stays visible in a mouseout, just like doing standard pop-up menu.
> I'll send the file to you.
>
> thanks for replying
>
> Filipe Dinis
>
>
>

--
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[Coen Naninck]

I see what went wrong now. You are using Slices. I can't help you with
this, this is too comlex for me.
I will ask help for you via E-mail. Keep checking this thread for
answers later on.

Coen

"benzinadesign" [email]webforumsuser@macromedia.com[/email] wrote:

> Yes i want that the menu stays visible in a mouseout, just like doing standard pop-up menu.
> I'll send the file to you.
>
> thanks for replying
>
> Filipe Dinis
>
>
>

--
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[benzinadesign webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Yes, i used slices to show/hide the submenu. All works fine except the fact that i can't make the submenu visible when i try to select one of the topics. I tried to enlarge the active area of the "benzina" button with no sucess :( I assume that what i want to do isn't so difficult. I'm missing something.. and i'm trying to find it out..

Thanks again

Filipe Dinis

[Coen Naninck]

You are better off doing this with Layers Filipe. Show/Hide Layers in
Dreamweaver. If you don't have Dreamweaver, download a trial. Try it, if
you can't figure out how it works come back here and i'll help you.

"benzinadesign" [email]webforumsuser@macromedia.com[/email] wrote:

> Yes, i used slices to show/hide the submenu. All works fine except the fact that i can't make the submenu visible when i try to select one of the topics. I tried to enlarge the active area of the "benzina" button with no sucess :( I assume that what i want to do isn't so difficult. I'm missing something.. and i'm trying to find it out..
>
> Thanks again
>
> Filipe Dinis
>
>
>
>
>

--
Good luck!

Coen Naninck
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[Coen Naninck]

This is standard Fireworks behaviour for all that I know. You cannot
change this.
I am sorry.

"ra_schwa" [email]webforumsuser@macromedia.com[/email] wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have made an example to show the problem. Please look at
>
> [url]http://www.raschwa.de/test/popup_test.htm[/url] and go with the mouse to "Journey with ..."
>
> The appearing popup-menu is too large, because I don´t know, how to bring the appearing points more together!
>
> I´m sorry, because my English is so bad!
>
> Thanks for answer
>
> R. Schwarz
>
>
>
>

--
Good luck!

Coen Naninck
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Thank you.

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Corporate: [url]http://www.wetworks.nl[/url]

[Murray *TMM*]

Folks:

It seems to me that the problem here is the button saying "All the other
vehicles I like" which is driving the width of that pop-up. Try changing
that option to "Other" and see what happens?

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"Coen Naninck" <ccnk@home.nl> wrote in message
news:3F230389.6030907@home.nl...

> This is standard Fireworks behaviour for all that I know. You cannot
> change this.
> I am sorry.
>
> "ra_schwa" [email]webforumsuser@macromedia.com[/email] wrote:

> > Hi
> >
> > I have made an example to show the problem. Please look at
> >
> > [url]http://www.raschwa.de/test/popup_test.htm[/url] and go with the mouse to

"Journey with ..."

> >
> > The appearing popup-menu is too large, because I don´t know, how to

bring the appearing points more together!

> >
> > I´m sorry, because my English is so bad!
> >
> > Thanks for answer
> >
> > R. Schwarz
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
>
> --
> Good luck!
>
> Coen Naninck
> _______________________________
>
> Please do not E-mail me with questions about Fireworks issues. Post them
> on the Forum instead. All the time I have left to spend in this Forum
> can't be contributed to also answering questions outside the Forum. It
> just takes too much time and it doesn't help the rest of the world.
>
> Thank you.
>
> E-mail & MSN: [email]ccnk@home.nl[/email]
> Corporate: [url]http://www.wetworks.nl[/url]
>

[Coen Naninck]

Thank you for repluing this thread Murray. I see you made it back from
your little trip!

That PNG was something I had never seen before. Way too complicated for me.

I do have a file from a thread of some weeks ago that behaves very odd.
This user create Symbols and merged them with a popup menu and something
went wrong. I will send you the file later on. Maybe it is a bug that MM
should know about.

Murray *TMM* wrote:

> Folks:
>
> It seems to me that the problem here is the button saying "All the other
> vehicles I like" which is driving the width of that pop-up. Try changing
> that option to "Other" and see what happens?
>

--
Good luck!

Coen Naninck
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Thank you.

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Corporate: [url]http://www.wetworks.nl[/url]

[Murray *TMM*]

Ralf:

Well, using the FW pop-ups (and without some manual hacks to the code), I
believe that you are required to use a constant width for each of the
horizontal "cells" reserved for your menu choices. This width will be
determined by the width of the longest menu option, which in your case is
"All the other ...."

The easiest way to do this kind of menu is to use DW to build it with a
layer that is shown and hidden via the DW interface, rather than one that is
built with dynamically written javascript as with the DW/FW pop-ups. The
advantages of doing this with static layers are several -

1. The code required to support the menu is about 15% the size of the code
required to support the DW/FW pop-ups, so there is a significant bandwidth
benefit
2. The code for the 'simple' menu is accessible to Search Engine spiders,
while the code dynamically written by the DW/FW pop-ups is not
3. The code for the 'simple' menu is accessible to screen readers, whereas
the code written dynamically is not
4. The code for the 'simple' menu is accessible to DW's site management
routines, whereas the code for the DW/FW pop-ups is not - you'll discover
this when you try to move an image, or save a page into a different folder
level and your menu breaks

Only the last of these issues is partially soluble by manually hacking the
menu code, but your skill level may give you an aversion even to that
solution.

In short, the simple approach is MUCH better in this case. You can do it
manually, or you can follow these tutorials, if you wish -

[url]http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/menuing/mcloser/index.htm[/url]

or

[url]http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/auto_hide/index.htm[/url]

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"ra_schwa" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> it´s only an example with "all the other vehicles". In real there are

names of 8 parts of our company and I cannot make the long names shorter!

>
> But on macromedia-homepage there appears a popup-menu (solutions) and the

points are in different length. Which program and which feature has been
used?

>
> Sincerely yours
>
> Ralf Schwarz
>
>

[Murray *TMM*]

Coen:

> Thank you for repluing this thread Murray. I see you made it back from
> your little trip!

You're welcome! Yes, I made it back indeed.

> That PNG was something I had never seen before. Way too complicated for

me.

Sorry - I'm not following this. Which PNG?

> I do have a file from a thread of some weeks ago that behaves very odd.
> This user create Symbols and merged them with a popup menu and something
> went wrong. I will send you the file later on. Maybe it is a bug that MM
> should know about.

Please - I'd love to see what you have here.

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"Coen Naninck" <ccnk@home.nl> wrote in message
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> Thank you for repluing this thread Murray. I see you made it back from
> your little trip!
>
> That PNG was something I had never seen before. Way too complicated for

me.

>
> I do have a file from a thread of some weeks ago that behaves very odd.
> This user create Symbols and merged them with a popup menu and something
> went wrong. I will send you the file later on. Maybe it is a bug that MM
> should know about.
>
> Murray *TMM* wrote:

> > Folks:
> >
> > It seems to me that the problem here is the button saying "All the other
> > vehicles I like" which is driving the width of that pop-up. Try

changing

> > that option to "Other" and see what happens?
> >

>
>
> --
> Good luck!
>
> Coen Naninck
> _______________________________
>
> Please do not E-mail me with questions about Fireworks issues. Post them
> on the Forum instead. All the time I have left to spend in this Forum
> can't be contributed to also answering questions outside the Forum. It
> just takes too much time and it doesn't help the rest of the world.
>
> Thank you.
>
> E-mail & MSN: [email]ccnk@home.nl[/email]
> Corporate: [url]http://www.wetworks.nl[/url]
>

[Coen Naninck]

> Sorry - I'm not following this. Which PNG?

The PNG Rashwa sent me. And of course you couldn't have known that.
Pretty dumb of me...

> Please - I'd love to see what you have here.

You can download it from this location:

[url]http://www.wetworks.nl/forum/bac_nav_test_MOD.png[/url]


Have fun with it.

Murray *TMM* wrote:

> Coen:
>
>

>>Thank you for repluing this thread Murray. I see you made it back from
>>your little trip!

>
>
> You're welcome! Yes, I made it back indeed.
>
>

>>That PNG was something I had never seen before. Way too complicated for

>
> me.
>
> Sorry - I'm not following this. Which PNG?
>
>

>>I do have a file from a thread of some weeks ago that behaves very odd.
>>This user create Symbols and merged them with a popup menu and something
>>went wrong. I will send you the file later on. Maybe it is a bug that MM
>>should know about.

>
>
> Please - I'd love to see what you have here.
>

--
Good luck!

Coen Naninck
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Thank you.

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[Murray *TMM*]

Coen:

Can you ZIP this file for me, please?

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"Coen Naninck" <ccnk@home.nl> wrote in message
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> > Sorry - I'm not following this. Which PNG?

>
> The PNG Rashwa sent me. And of course you couldn't have known that.
> Pretty dumb of me...
>

> > Please - I'd love to see what you have here.

>
> You can download it from this location:
>
> [url]http://www.wetworks.nl/forum/bac_nav_test_MOD.png[/url]
>
>
> Have fun with it.
>
> Murray *TMM* wrote:

> > Coen:
> >
> >

> >>Thank you for repluing this thread Murray. I see you made it back from
> >>your little trip!

> >
> >
> > You're welcome! Yes, I made it back indeed.
> >
> >

> >>That PNG was something I had never seen before. Way too complicated for

> >
> > me.
> >
> > Sorry - I'm not following this. Which PNG?
> >
> >

> >>I do have a file from a thread of some weeks ago that behaves very odd.
> >>This user create Symbols and merged them with a popup menu and something
> >>went wrong. I will send you the file later on. Maybe it is a bug that MM
> >>should know about.

> >
> >
> > Please - I'd love to see what you have here.
> >

>
>
> --
> Good luck!
>
> Coen Naninck
> _______________________________
>
> Please do not E-mail me with questions about Fireworks issues. Post them
> on the Forum instead. All the time I have left to spend in this Forum
> can't be contributed to also answering questions outside the Forum. It
> just takes too much time and it doesn't help the rest of the world.
>
> Thank you.
>
> E-mail & MSN: [email]ccnk@home.nl[/email]
> Corporate: [url]http://www.wetworks.nl[/url]
>

[Murray *TMM*]

Coen:

I got it. Now what's the problem here? It looks like a normal FW PNG with
pop-up behaviors already applied and all things as expected.

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"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> Coen:
>
> Can you ZIP this file for me, please?
>
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> "Coen Naninck" <ccnk@home.nl> wrote in message
> news:3F25971C.6000704@home.nl...

> > > Sorry - I'm not following this. Which PNG?

> >
> > The PNG Rashwa sent me. And of course you couldn't have known that.
> > Pretty dumb of me...
> >

> > > Please - I'd love to see what you have here.

> >
> > You can download it from this location:
> >
> > [url]http://www.wetworks.nl/forum/bac_nav_test_MOD.png[/url]
> >
> >
> > Have fun with it.
> >
> > Murray *TMM* wrote:

> > > Coen:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Thank you for repluing this thread Murray. I see you made it back from
> > >>your little trip!
> > >
> > >
> > > You're welcome! Yes, I made it back indeed.
> > >
> > >
> > >>That PNG was something I had never seen before. Way too complicated

for

> > >
> > > me.
> > >
> > > Sorry - I'm not following this. Which PNG?
> > >
> > >
> > >>I do have a file from a thread of some weeks ago that behaves very

odd.

> > >>This user create Symbols and merged them with a popup menu and

something

> > >>went wrong. I will send you the file later on. Maybe it is a bug that

MM

> > >>should know about.
> > >
> > >
> > > Please - I'd love to see what you have here.
> > >

> >
> >
> > --
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Coen Naninck
> > _______________________________
> >
> > Please do not E-mail me with questions about Fireworks issues. Post them
> > on the Forum instead. All the time I have left to spend in this Forum
> > can't be contributed to also answering questions outside the Forum. It
> > just takes too much time and it doesn't help the rest of the world.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > E-mail & MSN: [email]ccnk@home.nl[/email]
> > Corporate: [url]http://www.wetworks.nl[/url]
> >

>
>

[Coen Naninck]

It's the MOD I made. I need the original and I lost it.
I will write the person who passed it along to me tomorrow. My Email box
is a mess, need to sort that out first, then get back to you here.

Murray *TMM* wrote:

> Coen:
>
> I got it. Now what's the problem here? It looks like a normal FW PNG with
> pop-up behaviors already applied and all things as expected.
>

--
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_______________________________

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just takes too much time and it doesn't help the rest of the world.

Thank you.

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[ra_schwa webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Murray:

Thanks for Your tipps, I´ll try it as soon as possible!

Bye

Ralf