SSI newbie questions

[Css Lover]

I never knew about SSI, but it seems pretty easy stuff and too simple in some
ways.

I've tested it out and it works well, but I wonder is there really a need to
alter all my file extensions to shtml? I've already done so in a test web site
but read a few things online in which some methods are offered to use normal
extensions. No official forums carry this advice.

My other concern is that perhaps not every computer can view websites with
ssi, it seems fine on my systems and browsers, but how many people here use
ssi as a matter of course building web sites? It seems like everyone ought to
use it. Am I wrong to think this way?

Furthermore, I must add that it is a great releif to just copy that long list
menu and not have to worry about altering the web site at a later date by
coding all pages by hand.

SSI seems to be a great thing.

Has anyone had any negative experience with it?

Any SSI nightmares out there that I ought to know about?

What precautions would a man, or woman, need to take or be aware of when
embarking upon this path?

[Murray *ACE*]

> alter all my file extensions to shtml?

You can ask your host to enable server parsing for your current *.htm or
*.html extension - that way, all files will be parsed. Some hosts will do
this and some will not.

> My other concern is that perhaps not every computer can view websites with
> ssi, it seems fine on my systems and browsers, but how many people here
> use
> ssi as a matter of course building web sites?

I do. Since the include file is inserted on the SERVER (that's why it's
called 'server-side include') the client computer is unaware that anything
has been done. As far as the client is concerned they requested and were
given an ordinary HTML page. So the answer to this question is - it doesn't
matter what the client computer is using. There is no compatibilty issue
here.

> It seems like everyone ought to
> use it. Am I wrong to think this way?

No.

> What precautions would a man, or woman, need to take or be aware of when
> embarking upon this path?

Fully understanding the technology is a good start.

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"Css Lover" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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>I never knew about SSI, but it seems pretty easy stuff and too simple in
>some
> ways.
>
> I've tested it out and it works well, but I wonder is there really a need
> to
> alter all my file extensions to shtml? I've already done so in a test web
> site
> but read a few things online in which some methods are offered to use
> normal
> extensions. No official forums carry this advice.
>
> My other concern is that perhaps not every computer can view websites with
> ssi, it seems fine on my systems and browsers, but how many people here
> use
> ssi as a matter of course building web sites? It seems like everyone ought
> to
> use it. Am I wrong to think this way?
>
> Furthermore, I must add that it is a great releif to just copy that long
> list
> menu and not have to worry about altering the web site at a later date by
> coding all pages by hand.
>
> SSI seems to be a great thing.
>
> Has anyone had any negative experience with it?
>
> Any SSI nightmares out there that I ought to know about?
>
> What precautions would a man, or woman, need to take or be aware of when
> embarking upon this path?
>
>

[Css Lover]

Thanks for the advice, that's all I need for now.

I'm using SSI in its most basic form, but it is a big web site and without
this I would have a nightmare if any link went down or we needed to add
another. I've also built up a nice looking artistic list with divs and
suchlike, so having this as the ssi is a good thing.

I use 1&1 and think you can just do your own .htaccess 'thing', and upload it
to parse the pages, that would make it easier, but I've already just copied an
xhtml site and used that to experiment with ssi and changed all the pages to
shtml.

I guess I ought to change them back as it is just extra work to no good
purpose.

Knowing now that ssi is compatible with all systems is good to know, I guess
this is for the medium to large sized websites, but someone here stated that
they use it to allow a client to upload files. This is actually something that
interests me.

Having just found the DW link checker, I have saved hours of laborious work as
I used to check links manually.

I am now at the stage of 10 days to go with my trial version. I feel my pocket
is about to become lighter. I'm going for the teacher/student edition and
cannot wait to use them.

These are powerful tools Murray, but in the hands of the unskilled, there
could be tears!

I might look for a course near me, or use Open University, which is free for
me at least. There are advantages to being poor, one of which is the
opportunity to educate yourself.

There is no excuse for ignorance but a million opportunities to wallow in it.

God willing, Adobe CS2 will come my way also.

[Murray *ACE*]

> I'm going for the teacher/student edition and

> cannot wait to use them.

Be aware that you cannot use this version for commercial sites, i.e., you
cannot get paid for them, and they cannot sell things. Also, you cannot
upgrade the academic version when a new version is released.

> but someone here stated that
> they use it to allow a client to upload files. This is actually something
> that
> interests me.

The client would make changes to a text file and upload it to the site. The
page references that text file as an include file. It's not very functional
in that to style any of the content, the client would have to enter the
selectors and the tags into the text they are adding/editing.

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"Css Lover" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thanks for the advice, that's all I need for now.
>
> I'm using SSI in its most basic form, but it is a big web site and without
> this I would have a nightmare if any link went down or we needed to add
> another. I've also built up a nice looking artistic list with divs and
> suchlike, so having this as the ssi is a good thing.
>
> I use 1&1 and think you can just do your own .htaccess 'thing', and upload
> it
> to parse the pages, that would make it easier, but I've already just
> copied an
> xhtml site and used that to experiment with ssi and changed all the pages
> to
> shtml.
>
> I guess I ought to change them back as it is just extra work to no good
> purpose.
>
> Knowing now that ssi is compatible with all systems is good to know, I
> guess
> this is for the medium to large sized websites, but someone here stated
> that
> they use it to allow a client to upload files. This is actually something
> that
> interests me.
>
> Having just found the DW link checker, I have saved hours of laborious
> work as
> I used to check links manually.
>
> I am now at the stage of 10 days to go with my trial version. I feel my
> pocket
> is about to become lighter. I'm going for the teacher/student edition and
> cannot wait to use them.
>
> These are powerful tools Murray, but in the hands of the unskilled, there
> could be tears!
>
> I might look for a course near me, or use Open University, which is free
> for
> me at least. There are advantages to being poor, one of which is the
> opportunity to educate yourself.
>
> There is no excuse for ignorance but a million opportunities to wallow in
> it.
>
> God willing, Adobe CS2 will come my way also.
>
>

[Css Lover]

Originally posted by: Newsgroup User

> I'm going for the teacher/student edition and
> cannot wait to use them.

Be aware that you cannot use this version for commercial sites, i.e., you
cannot get paid for them, and they cannot sell things. Also, you cannot
upgrade the academic version when a new version is released.


I'll only need the Academic version for a few months.

I'm not building a web site for cash money or any material gain and its not a
business web site and comes under charitable status.

What I need is some competition to enter, I'm hoping for some prize set up
involving Macromedias Full Web design kit , Adobe PS CS2 and a nice pen tablet,
the A4 size. A Wacom of course.

What prizes are there on offer here in the UK?