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Subtle bug in Windows? Different profile directory as you roam... - Windows Server

I'd like to hear from anyone with deep thoughts about a situation that should not cause malfunctions, but does... ....namely the situation where a roaming user roams from one PC to another and gets his profile copied into a differently named directory on different PCs. Suppose we have user Smith in domain Dom. And there are two computers, PC1 and PC2. And PC2 also has a local user named Smith. Then when Smith roams to PC1, his profile goes into: c:\Doents and Settings\Smith but when he roams to PC2, his profile goes into: c:\Doents and Settings\Smith.Dom In general, to prevent ...

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    Default Subtle bug in Windows? Different profile directory as you roam...

    I'd like to hear from anyone with deep thoughts about a situation that
    should not cause malfunctions, but does...

    ....namely the situation where a roaming user roams from one PC to another
    and gets his profile copied into a differently named directory on different
    PCs.

    Suppose we have user Smith in domain Dom. And there are two computers, PC1
    and PC2. And PC2 also has a local user named Smith.

    Then when Smith roams to PC1, his profile goes into:
    c:\Doents and Settings\Smith
    but when he roams to PC2, his profile goes into:
    c:\Doents and Settings\Smith.Dom

    In general, to prevent conflicts with a pre-existing directory, Windows will
    add the domain name and then, if necessary, .001, .002, etc. to the end of
    the directory name.

    Conflicts can arise not only when there's a local user with the same name,
    but also when directories are left behind that should have been deleted but
    weren't, e.g. due to a crash.

    Well... In this situation Windows had trouble copying my desktop back and
    forth correctly, and my desktop wallpaper did not roam with me.

    It seems to me this should not have been a problem, because the operating
    system should have been looking at %userprofile% to find the profile, rather
    than trying to use a directory name stored from previous use.

    For more on this, including VBSCRIPT code to detect the situation, see:
    www.covingtoninnovations.com/michael/blog/0407/index.html#040721

    Thoughts, anyone?


    Michael Guest

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    Default Re: Subtle bug in Windows? Different profile directory as you roam...

    That's perfectly normal. Windows sees that there's already a smith profile
    folder (local, in this case) and hence creates a new one.

    Michael A. Covington wrote: 


    Lanwench Guest

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    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    <donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.at> wrote in message
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    Yes, but then Windows should not malfunction. On each PC it should have no
    trouble knowing where my profile is at the time, even if not the same.

    But Windows does have problems copying desktop attributes. That's why I
    asked to hear from people with more knowledge of this.


    Michael Guest

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    Default Re: Subtle bug in Windows? Different profile directory as you roam...

    Ah - sorry, I didn't read through carefully enough.

    Do you see userenv errors in your workstation logs?
    How big are your roaming profiles?
    Users have Full Control over their roaming profile folders on the server?

    Michael A. Covington wrote: 
    >
    > Yes, but then Windows should not malfunction. On each PC it should
    > have no trouble knowing where my profile is at the time, even if not
    > the same.
    >
    > But Windows does have problems copying desktop attributes. That's
    > why I asked to hear from people with more knowledge of this.[/ref]


    Lanwench Guest

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    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    <donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.at> wrote in message
    news:phx.gbl... 

    I will check all of those. What should I be looking for?


    Michael Guest

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    Default Re: Subtle bug in Windows? Different profile directory as you roam...

    The "bugs" you're seeing are almost certainly due to hard coded paths.

    You probably set your backdrop to c:\doents and settings\smith\my
    pictures\image.bmp or something. When you roam, that path is no longer valid
    and so Windows can't display it. The same thing often happens if Windows is
    installed on a drive other than C: You can often fix it by making sure the
    appropriate registry key/shortcut uses the environment variable.

    It is a bit annoying, though largely a non-issue as it is unusual for Domain
    computers to have local accounts.

    AndyC

    "Michael A. Covington" <uga.edu.for.address> wrote in message
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    different 
    PC1 
    will 
    but 
    rather 


    AndyC Guest

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    Default Re: Subtle bug in Windows? Different profile directory as you roam...

    What about the fact that I created a folder and some files on the desktop of
    one computer and it didn't roam to the other? *That* isn't just a matter of
    hard coded paths -- or if it is, it's still a Windows bug.

    "AndyC" <co.uk> wrote in message
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    valid 
    is 
    Domain [/ref]
    another 
    > different 
    > PC1 
    > will [/ref]
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    name, 
    > but [/ref]
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    Michael Guest

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    Default Re: Subtle bug in Windows? Different profile directory as you roam...

    Michael A. Covington wrote: 

    It's a matter of something being funky with your profile, or the roaming
    functionality thereof. Did you check your event logs for userenv errors as
    I'd asked before? [/ref][/ref]


    Lanwench Guest

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    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    <donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.at> wrote in message
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    >
    > It's a matter of something being funky with your profile, or the roaming
    > functionality thereof. Did you check your event logs for userenv errors as
    > I'd asked before?[/ref]

    I'm going to, I'm going to! I am not physically in the presence of that
    computer right now. Can you explain more of what I should be looking for?


    Michael Guest

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    > > > What about the fact that I created a folder and some files on the 
    > >
    > > It's a matter of something being funky with your profile, or the roaming
    > > functionality thereof. Did you check your event logs for userenv errors[/ref][/ref]
    as [/ref]

    Amazingly, there were none (in either the System or Application logs of
    either Client 1, Client 2, or the server).

    Client 1 is where I had the normal directory name (Doents and
    Settings\myname), and Client 2 is where I didn't (it was Doents and
    Settings\myname.Domain.002).

    On Client 2, the directories myname, myname.Domain, and myname.Domain.001
    were created long ago, probably in connection with crashes or group policy
    problems. Because they existed already, myname.Domain.002 was created to
    hold my profile.

    Well... When I created new files on the desktop of Client 1, they made it to
    the server but not to Client 2. Some things, such as desktop icon
    rearrangements, *did* roam successfully back and forth.

    That's why I think there's a bug in Windows. It should have either handled
    the situation correctly, or complained about it as an error. Neither
    happened.


    Michael Guest

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