The ASP.NET FAQ

[Juan T. Llibre]

Welcome to the ASP.NET FAQ.
The online version of this FAQ is at [url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]

Thank you for reading this FAQ!
Use it to improve your online experience.

The Microsoft Public Newsgroups allow users of Microsoft products to exchange technical
information and expertise. Please avoid personal attacks, slurs and profanity in your
posts.

A FAQ is a list of Frequently Answered Questions;
This is a guide to using this newsgroup intelligently in order to find answers to your
ASP.NET questions.

The kind of answer you get to your questions depends on the way
you ask the questions as well as on the difficulty of writing the answer.

This FAQ will show you how to ask questions in a way that is likely to get you the answer
you want to get : the right answer.

You have to do your part, too, if this is going to work out in such a way
that you *learn* what you need to learn, instead of getting ready-made answers
which you will promptly forget and need to ask for them again.

With that in mind, the first FAQ recommendation is that you use search engines
to find out if the question you intend to ask has been already answered in newsgroups.

Use resources like :

Google Groups Advanced Search ( [url]http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search[/url] )
MSN Search ( [url]http://www.msn.com/[/url] )

to search for the text of the problem which is stumping you,
and save everybody the waste of time that asking a FAQ entails.

Remember : thousands of programmers will read your post. Be considerate of their time.

1. General ASP.NET Questions

1.1 What is ASP.NET?

ASP.NET is a technology for creating dynamic Web pages which uses the .Net Framework.

You can author applications in any .NET compatible language, including Visual Basic .NET,
C#, and JScript .NET, and many others listed at
[url]http://www.dotnetpowered.com/languages.aspx[/url] .

1.2 Where can I get ASP.NET?

You can get ASP.NET by installing the Microsoft .NET Framework on a computer which has IIS
installed.
The .NET Framework is available in either a redistributable or SDK format.

ASP.NET 2.0, currently in Beta, will be released the first week in November, 2005.

1.3 I've installed the .NET Framework, but ASP.NET doesn't seem to work.
What can I do to fix it?

You must install IIS before you install the .NET Framework.

If you install IIS after you install the .NET Framework,
you must then register the ASP.NET extensions with IIS.

You can do this by running the aspnet_regiis executable from:
%windows root directory%\Microsoft.NET\Framework\%version of the .NET
Framework%\aspnet_regiis -i

Where %windows root directory% is the directory Windows is installed to
(normally c:\windows or c:\winnt) and %version of the .NET Framework%
is the version of the .NET Framework you have installed.

The directory for .NET 1.0 is v1.0.3705 ; for 1.1 it's v1.1.4322 and for Beta 2, it's
v2.0.50215.

It's always a good idea to try to find the answer to your question by reading the
documentation.
Yes, Read The Manual! The ASP.NET Quickstarts have many answers and samples.

You can install a local copy of the QuickStarts by installing the ASP.NET SDK.

The ASP.NET 1.1 SDK is available at :
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9b3a2ca6-3647-4070-9f41-a333c6b9181d&displaylang=en[/url]

The ASP.NET 2.0 SDK comes with the VS.NET Beta :
[url]http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/[/url]

If you can't install local copies of the ASP.NET QuickStart,

the ASP.NET 1.1 QuickStart is available online at :
[url]http://www.asp.net/Tutorials/quickstart.aspx[/url]

The ASP.NET 1.1 Starter Kits are available at :
[url]http://www.asp.net/Default.aspx?tabindex=8&tabid=47[/url]

The ASP.NET 2.0 QuickStart is available online at :
[url]http://beta.asp.net/quickstart/aspnet/Default.aspx[/url]

The ASP.NET Beta 2 Starter Kits are available at :
[url]http://www.asp.net/vwd/starterkits.aspx?tabIndex=4&tabId=46[/url]

Always try to find an answer by experimenting with the code.
The .NET Framework Class Browser is of great assistance to help you do this.

The .NET Framework 1.1 Class Browser is available at :
[url]http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/samples/classbrowser/CS/ClassBrowser.aspx[/url]
and also at :
[url]http://www.csharpfriends.com/quickstart/aspplus/samples/classbrowser/vb/classbrowser.aspx[/url]

The .NET Framework 2.0 Class Browser is available at :
[url]http://beta.asp.net/quickstart/util/classbrowser.aspx[/url]

MSDN has all the ASP.NET documentation and Knowledge Base articles online.

Search MSDN for ASP.NET and .Net Framework questions at:
[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframework/[/url]

Search the MSDN Beta 2 documentation at: [url]http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/default.aspx[/url]

Major changes to ASP.NET and VS.NET going from Beta 2 --> RTM :
[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/beta2/beta2rtmchanges/default.aspx[/url]

2. Newsgroup Questions

2.1 What subjects are appropriate in this newsgroup?

Any subject which relates to programming, installing or configuring ASP.NET.
Please don't post questions unrelated to ASP.NET.

ASP.NET is not the same as ASP. If you have questions relating to "Classic ASP",
post them in the ASP newsgroups, e.g. microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general.

We encourage the posting of links to free ASP.NET controls/assemblies you have developed,
but request that commercial product availabilities be sent to :

microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.announcem ents

Otherwise, your post will be deleted as SPAM.

2.2 How to write your post

a. Make the "Subject" a short, relevant summary of your problem

b. Make sure you describe your problem accurately.
Please post the exact code which is failing/generating your error.
That will help others find the solution to your problem.

c. Deal with one problem at a time.
If you have more than one problem, post it separately.

d. Make sure you include the version of ASP.NET and the
operating system you are using. This *really* helps others help you!

If the problem is a browser-related problem, include the relevant
browser identity and operating system information.

e. If you are getting an error message, include the error number and its text.

f. Tell us what you have already tried to do to solve the problem.

2.3 How not to write your post

a. Avoid cross-posting, unless your problem applies to more than one newsgroup.

b. Never post identical messages with different subjects.
This is a sure way to get your posts ignored.

c. Don't post your message in ALL CAPITALS. It's very hard to read.
This is another sure way to get your posts ignored.

d. Don't use unclear subject lines which don't summarize a problem, like these:

HEEEELLLLPPP!!!!!
Need help please.
Any experts here?

This is yet another sure way to get your posts ignored.

e. Don't ask for an email reply. The basis for peer-to-peer help newsgroups
like this one is for *everybody* to be helped by the answers provided.

f. Don't flame anyone, period. Nobody needs that in technical newsgroups.
If something, or someone, irks you, ignore the post.

Please treat all participants with respect, valuing divergent views and contrary
opinions.
Be polite. Share your perspectives to question ideas and stimulate interesting
discussions.

g. The ASP.NET newsgroups, like all Microsoft public ng's, are unmoderated.

From time to time, there will be totally off-topic posts from trolls, spammers,
pornographers, etc. Please don't reply to these posts, as it's a waste of time.

Instead, killfile the poster if the post bothers you.

Microsoft has an anti-spam program in effect, and spam messages
are eliminated by a community program, but it's difficult to detect
some SPAM messages. Have patience and don't reply to any SPAM message.

We will get to it, and delete it.

2.4 Dealing with replies to your post

a. Trim unnecessary text from the replies to your posts, leaving just enough to
get the context of the reply and the original problem. This is greatly
appreciated by the people who are trying to help you, since it saves them time.

b. Analyze the suggestion you were given, and test to see whether it solves the problem.

c. If the problem isn't solved by the suggestion, explain why in a follow-up reply.

2.5 After you get your answer...

a. Confirm whether the proposed solution worked or not.

b. Thank the poster who gave you the answer to your question.

For people who spend their free time, unpaid, helping others in
peer-to-peer newsgroups, there's nothing better than to get a "Thank you".

Your "Thank you" is also helpful to others reading about your problem
because they see that the solution sent to you *did* work.

ASP.NET links :

Learning ASP.NET : [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/learn/[/url]

ASP.NET Developer Center : [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/[/url]

ASP.NET Developer Center Archive : [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/archive/default.aspx[/url]

ASP.NET Forums : [url]http://forums.asp.net/[/url] ( Online ASP.NET Forum )

ASP.NET 1.1 Support Center : [url]http://support.microsoft.com/ph/6351[/url]

ASP.NET Security Practices :
[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnpag2/html/PAGPractices0001.asp[/url]

ASP.NET Security How Tos :
[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnpag2/html/SecurityHowTosIndex.asp[/url]

ADO.NET Support Center : [url]http://support.microsoft.com/adonet[/url]

SQL Server Developer Center : [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/SQL/[/url]

IIS Tips and Hints : [url]http://www.asp.net/Default.aspx?tabindex=9&tabid=48[/url]

Please ask VS2005 questions at [url]http://forums.microsoft.com/msdn/[/url] , and not in this ASP.NET
newsgroup.

ASP.NET 2.0 questions can be posted either here or at :
[url]http://forums.asp.net/default.aspx?ForumGroupID=26[/url]

Official FAQs and Developer Resources :

ASP.NET Beta 2 FAQ : [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/beta2/faq/default.aspx[/url]

..NEt Framework Developer Center : [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframework/[/url]

VB Developer Center : [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/[/url]

C# Developer Center : [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/vcsharp/[/url]

J# Developer Center : [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/vjsharp/[/url]

New ASP.NET Developer? See : [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/learn/newtodevelopment/[/url]

Free Learning Courses from Microsoft : [url]http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/learning/[/url]

Selected MSDN Technical Articles on ASP.NET :
[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/articles/default.aspx[/url]

Full Index to MSDN ASP.NET articles :
[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/archive/default.aspx[/url]

Free Online Book : Improving .Net Application Performance and Scalability:
[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnpag/html/scalenet.asp[/url]

Dedicated ASP.NET newsgroups at msnews.microsoft.com ( Microsoft's public nntp server ):

microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.security
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.caching
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.webservic es
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.buildingc ontrols
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.webcontro ls
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.datagridc ontrol
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.announcem ents

The general .NET Framework newsgroup is : microsoft.public.dotnet.framework

The ADO.Net newsgroup is : microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet

The newsgroups for SQL Server and MSDE are :
microsoft.public.sqlserver.server and microsoft.public.sqlserver.msde

If you have a question which would fit better at one of the
above newsgroups, consider posting it in the appropiate one(s).

You can also use the HTML interface to the Microsoft Discussion Groups :
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx[/url]

Other FAQs and Developer Resources :

Connection Strings : [url]http://www.connectionstrings.com/[/url]

SQL Server Forums : [url]http://www.sqlmonster.com/[/url]

DotNetJunkies : [url]http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/[/url]

ASP.NET at 4GuysFromRolla : [url]http://aspnet.4guysfromrolla.com/[/url]

ASP.NET at the ASP Alliance :
[url]http://aspalliance.com/articles/LearnASPNET.aspx[/url]
[url]http://aspalliance.com/articles/LearnControls.aspx[/url]

W3Schools ASP.NET Tutorial : [url]http://www.w3schools.com/aspnet/default.asp[/url]

Egghead Cafe : [url]http://www.eggheadcafe.com/default.asp[/url]

123aspx ASP.NET Directory : [url]http://www.123aspx.com/[/url]

411 ASP.NET Resource Directory : [url]http://www.411asp.net/[/url]

..NET 247 Assembly References and Discussions :
[url]http://www.dotnet247.com/247reference/default.aspx[/url]

..Net Framework FAQ : [url]http://www.andymcm.com/dotnetfaq.htm[/url]

Jon Skeet's C# FAQ and articles : [url]http://www.yoda.arachsys.com/csharp/[/url]

OdeToCode.com
Articles : [url]http://odetocode.com/Articles/default.aspx[/url]
Resources : [url]http://odetocode.com/Resources/default.aspx[/url]

Karl Seguin's ASP.NET articles : [url]http://www.openmymind.net/MyArticles.aspx[/url]

Steve Orr's list of free controls : [url]http://steveorr.net/freecontrols/[/url]

C# FAQ for C++ programmers : [url]http://www.andymcm.com/csharpfaq.htm[/url]

Free eBook : VB.NET Fundamentals, Sheriff and Getz :
[url]http://platform.innerworkings.com/public/vbrun/setup/VBNETFundamentals.msi[/url]

ASP.NET Version Switcher : [url]http://www.denisbauer.com/NETTools/ASPNETVersionSwitcher.aspx[/url]

We are working on a FAQ for specific programming questions.
When it's ready, we will include a link to it in this FAQ.

If you wish to submit a FAQ for inclusion in the ASP.NET FAQ,
please e-mail [email]j_llibre@hotmail.com[/email] or reply to this FAQ.

Don't forget to trim your reply ! :-)

This FAQ will be published every week in the Microsoft public newsgroups which have
*aspnet* in their name.

[Alan Silver]

>Welcome to the ASP.NET FAQ.

>The online version of this FAQ is at [url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]

I, like many others here welcome a FAQ very much, but I would like to
make a usability request. Please can you improve the interface of the
FAQ. By that I mean such things as a clearer font, a more attractive
colour scheme (yes it does make a difference when reading, it's not just
eye candy) and, most important, have some way of making the questions
stand out from the answers. This last one could be done (and would have
massive side-benefits) by having a list of questions, which are links to
the answers, rather than having a long page with everything on in one
block.

Ultimately, splitting it down into sections would be mighty useful as I
reckon this is going to grow and grow. I know it's a bit more work, but
it will save a lot of work later, and improve the usefulness of the FAQ
no end.

See [url]http://www.aspfaq.com/[/url] for a really well organised FAQ. I know this
has been going for a lot longer, but it's worth aiming at a high quality
resource. It's going to be hard enough to get people to read the FAQ
anyway, we don't want to put them off by making it hard.

Please note that this is *not* meant as criticism. I appreciate very
much the hard work that has gone in to making the FAQ so far. This is
meant as constructive comments to improve it even more.

Ta ra

--
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)

[Juan T. Llibre]

Thanks for your comments, Alan.

Strangely enough, when I go to [url]http://www.aspfaq.com/[/url] ,
using Firefox, IE and Maxthon, the page is blank.

Is there a problem with the site ?

As for your comments :

> Please can you improve the interface of the FAQ.

Sure. It's just plain vanilla right now.
There's sections, breaks and headers coming.

re:

> have some way of making the questions stand out from the answers. This last one could be
> done (and would have massive side-benefits) by having a list of questions, which are
> links to the answers, rather than having a long page with everything on in one block.

This will have to wait for the next version of the FAQ, which will include
the most-commonly asked ASP.NET questions with their answers.

This current effort is just a listing of things to do and things not to do
when posting + a list of good ASP.NET resources, with only a few,
very basic, Q & A items included ( 3, to be exact... ).

This week ( I'm posting it tomorrow ) I've added a list of ASP.NET blogs.

The next version will be similar to [url]http://www.aspnetfaq.com/[/url]
which is now not maintained, unfortunately.

*That* is what I refer to in the next-to-last item in the FAQ :

> We are working on a FAQ for specific programming questions. When it's ready, we will
> include a link to it in this FAQ.

In sum, I agree with you : there's usability improvements needed,
but they will need to be centered around the next version of the
ASP.NET FAQ, which will be dedicated to Questions and Answers.

btw, do you think a wiki-type FAQ would be a worthwhile effort ?




Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : [url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]
==========================

"Alan Silver" <alan-silver@nospam.thanx> wrote in message
news:gna+K6FuIFJDFwo4@nospamthankyou.spam...

> >Welcome to the ASP.NET FAQ.
>>The online version of this FAQ is at [url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]

>
> I, like many others here welcome a FAQ very much, but I would like to make a usability
> request. Please can you improve the interface of the FAQ. By that I mean such things as
> a clearer font, a more attractive colour scheme (yes it does make a difference when
> reading, it's not just eye candy) and, most important, have some way of making the
> questions stand out from the answers. This last one could be done (and would have
> massive side-benefits) by having a list of questions, which are links to the answers,
> rather than having a long page with everything on in one block.
>
> Ultimately, splitting it down into sections would be mighty useful as I reckon this is
> going to grow and grow. I know it's a bit more work, but it will save a lot of work
> later, and improve the usefulness of the FAQ no end.
>
> See [url]http://www.aspfaq.com/[/url] for a really well organised FAQ. I know this has been going
> for a lot longer, but it's worth aiming at a high quality resource. It's going to be
> hard enough to get people to read the FAQ anyway, we don't want to put them off by
> making it hard.
>
> Please note that this is *not* meant as criticism. I appreciate very much the hard work
> that has gone in to making the FAQ so far. This is meant as constructive comments to
> improve it even more.
>
> Ta ra
>
> --
> Alan Silver
> (anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)

[Alan Silver]

>Thanks for your comments, Alan.

>
>Strangely enough, when I go to [url]http://www.aspfaq.com/[/url] ,
>using Firefox, IE and Maxthon, the page is blank.
>
>Is there a problem with the site ?

Dunno, I just checked it in IE6 and it showed fine.

>As for your comments :
>

>> Please can you improve the interface of the FAQ.

>
>Sure. It's just plain vanilla right now.
>There's sections, breaks and headers coming.

Jolly good. I expected you'd say that, but I just thought I'd raise the
issue in case ;-)

>re:

<snip>

>The next version will be similar to [url]http://www.aspnetfaq.com/[/url]
>which is now not maintained, unfortunately.

That's exactly the sort of thing I meant (except for the rather garish
background colour!!). I didn't know about this site, shame it's been
left to wither, it could have been used as the basis for a great FAQ. Oh
well, as long as you are replacing it then all's well.

>*That* is what I refer to in the next-to-last item in the FAQ :
>

>> We are working on a FAQ for specific programming questions. When it's
>>ready, we will
>> include a link to it in this FAQ.

>
>In sum, I agree with you : there's usability improvements needed,
>but they will need to be centered around the next version of the
>ASP.NET FAQ, which will be dedicated to Questions and Answers.

Fine. I know it's early days. I think we all look forward to a more
complete version. I remember when I was big into ASP Classic, the FAQ
was very useful for obscure issues, as well as a quick pointer for
people asking FAQs in the n/groups.

>btw, do you think a wiki-type FAQ would be a worthwhile effort ?

Hmm, good question. The problem with a wiki is that anyone can change it
(obviously!!), which can be a detrimental factor in a FAQ. You really
need FAQ entries to be clear and concise. If someone has a comment on
the content of a FAQ, it is usually better directed to the FAQ author
who can decide if the suggested correction is fair. If you allow it to
be a free-for-all, I think the FAQ would end up being useless for its
main purpose.

Imagine if our latest troll had visited the wiki and filled up every FAQ
with his opinions of ASP.NET and how it can all be done better with
render functions!!

So after waffling, I think the answer (IMHO) is no. I would prefer to
see a normal FAQ, but with a feedback mechanism where people can make
comments, or request items to be included. These would all get send to
the FAQ maintainer who would decide what to do with them.

--
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)

[Juan T. Llibre]

Thanks!

Your comments help.



Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : [url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]
==========================

"Alan Silver" <alan-silver@nospam.thanx> wrote in message
news:SG3iSROYAGJDFwdQ@nospamthankyou.spam...

> >Thanks for your comments, Alan.
>>
>>Strangely enough, when I go to [url]http://www.aspfaq.com/[/url] ,
>>using Firefox, IE and Maxthon, the page is blank.
>>
>>Is there a problem with the site ?

>
> Dunno, I just checked it in IE6 and it showed fine.
>

>>As for your comments :
>>

>>> Please can you improve the interface of the FAQ.

>>
>>Sure. It's just plain vanilla right now.
>>There's sections, breaks and headers coming.

>
> Jolly good. I expected you'd say that, but I just thought I'd raise the issue in case
> ;-)
>

>>re:

> <snip>

>>The next version will be similar to [url]http://www.aspnetfaq.com/[/url]
>>which is now not maintained, unfortunately.

>
> That's exactly the sort of thing I meant (except for the rather garish background
> colour!!). I didn't know about this site, shame it's been left to wither, it could have
> been used as the basis for a great FAQ. Oh well, as long as you are replacing it then
> all's well.
>

>>*That* is what I refer to in the next-to-last item in the FAQ :
>>

>>> We are working on a FAQ for specific programming questions. When it's ready, we will
>>> include a link to it in this FAQ.

>>
>>In sum, I agree with you : there's usability improvements needed,
>>but they will need to be centered around the next version of the
>>ASP.NET FAQ, which will be dedicated to Questions and Answers.

>
> Fine. I know it's early days. I think we all look forward to a more complete version. I
> remember when I was big into ASP Classic, the FAQ was very useful for obscure issues, as
> well as a quick pointer for people asking FAQs in the n/groups.
>

>>btw, do you think a wiki-type FAQ would be a worthwhile effort ?

>
> Hmm, good question. The problem with a wiki is that anyone can change it (obviously!!),
> which can be a detrimental factor in a FAQ. You really need FAQ entries to be clear and
> concise. If someone has a comment on the content of a FAQ, it is usually better directed
> to the FAQ author who can decide if the suggested correction is fair. If you allow it to
> be a free-for-all, I think the FAQ would end up being useless for its main purpose.
>
> Imagine if our latest troll had visited the wiki and filled up every FAQ with his
> opinions of ASP.NET and how it can all be done better with render functions!!
>
> So after waffling, I think the answer (IMHO) is no. I would prefer to see a normal FAQ,
> but with a feedback mechanism where people can make comments, or request items to be
> included. These would all get send to the FAQ maintainer who would decide what to do
> with them.
>
> --
> Alan Silver
> (anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)

[Juan T. Llibre]

See if you like the interface better now, Alan.

[url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]

;-)



Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : [url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]
==========================

"Alan Silver" <alan-silver@nospam.thanx> wrote in message
news:SG3iSROYAGJDFwdQ@nospamthankyou.spam...

> Please can you improve the interface of the FAQ.

[Alan Silver]

>See if you like the interface better now, Alan.

>
>[url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]
>
>;-)

That's fantastic!! It's amazing how much more usable it is with a nice
design.

One more comment - the general ASP.NET info questions section would
still benefit from having all the questions as links at the top. That
way you could scan them and see if your question is answered. The links
would just point further down the page where the questions and answers
would be shown exactly as you have them now.

As this section of the FAQ grows (I presume this is where the questions
that are actually asked frequently in the n/g would go), this could be
split into subpages, each with the same format.

An excellent resource. Please keep up the good work. I suggest a call to
all users of the group to contribute what they feel are good candidates
for the FAQ. That will save you a lot of work as you won't have to write
them all, and it will hopefully fill up the FAQ with the sorts of
questions that actually do get asked here regularly. That way, when they
get asked, we can just provide an URL that points to the answer. If
people post their suggestions in the group, we can all discuss them
before they put in the FAQ. We did this in another group I was in years
ago, and we built a great FAQ very quickly thanks to a joint effort by
the regulars.

Thanks again for your efforts. Ta ra
alan

P.S. Just noticed - the blogs page has a list of names, but no
explanation of who they are or why people might be interested in their
blogs. Maybe a short line or two would help here? Just like to keep you
busy!!

--
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)

[Alvin Bruney - ASP.NET MVP]

that's an excellent suggestion

--
Regards,
Alvin Bruney [MVP ASP.NET]

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"Alan Silver" <alan-silver@nospam.thanx> wrote in message
news:LMsEg3F2guJDFwe6@nospamthankyou.spam...

> >See if you like the interface better now, Alan.
> >
> >[url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]
> >
> >;-)

>
> That's fantastic!! It's amazing how much more usable it is with a nice
> design.
>
> One more comment - the general ASP.NET info questions section would
> still benefit from having all the questions as links at the top. That
> way you could scan them and see if your question is answered. The links
> would just point further down the page where the questions and answers
> would be shown exactly as you have them now.
>
> As this section of the FAQ grows (I presume this is where the questions
> that are actually asked frequently in the n/g would go), this could be
> split into subpages, each with the same format.
>
> An excellent resource. Please keep up the good work. I suggest a call to
> all users of the group to contribute what they feel are good candidates
> for the FAQ. That will save you a lot of work as you won't have to write
> them all, and it will hopefully fill up the FAQ with the sorts of
> questions that actually do get asked here regularly. That way, when they
> get asked, we can just provide an URL that points to the answer. If
> people post their suggestions in the group, we can all discuss them
> before they put in the FAQ. We did this in another group I was in years
> ago, and we built a great FAQ very quickly thanks to a joint effort by
> the regulars.
>
> Thanks again for your efforts. Ta ra
> alan
>
> P.S. Just noticed - the blogs page has a list of names, but no
> explanation of who they are or why people might be interested in their
> blogs. Maybe a short line or two would help here? Just like to keep you
> busy!!
>
> --
> Alan Silver
> (anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)

[Alan Silver]

>that's an excellent suggestion

<blush>
Why thanks!!
</blush>

Actually, I can't really take credit for it. We did it in another
newsgroup and it worked really well. I think some of my ramblings are
still in that FAQ!!

--
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)

[Juan T. Llibre]

re:

> One more comment - the general ASP.NET info questions section would still benefit from
> having all the questions as links at the top.

That *will* happen...in V2 of the FAQ.
The next step is to add a "Q & A" section.

That will entail, however, designing a database structure to host the info,
so it will be some time before it's ready. How much time ? I don't know.

Hopefully, I will be able to do it soon.

re:

> As this section of the FAQ grows (I presume this is where the questions that are
> actually asked frequently in the n/g would go),

Right, but as part of the ASP.NET Q & A section of the FAQ.

The "Basic Info" page will stay as it is.

I want the info for beginners to be easily locatable,
and having a dedicated page for "Basic Info" is good,
so that the absolute beginner knows exactly where to go

re:

> this could be split into subpages, each with the same format.

I did one for "Classic ASP", and am working on porting it to ASP.NET.

It had a "drill-down" model, with the basic categories in a dropdown list,
which would display a list of questions for each category, but also had
a keyword search capability.

One thing which I think is important is to have demos of each Q&A,
and source code views ( for the FAQs which require sample code ).

That is, potentially, the most time-consuming part.

re:

> An excellent resource. Please keep up the good work.

Thanks. I hope it fulfills a good function for the ASP.NET community.

re:

> I suggest a call to all users of the group to contribute what they feel are good
> candidates for the FAQ.

If the contributions come in, it will make the FAQ more useful.

I wish everybody would get involved, as this is, potentially,
a strong resource. There's some online FAQs, but they are
not as complete as what I think they should be.

My intent is to have an ad-free site for as long as I can,
so I hope to get the necessary collaboration to make it
as complete -and as fast-loading (no ads) - as possible.

re:

> That way, when they get asked, we can just provide an URL that points to the answer.

That's the way it will work.

re:

> P.S. Just noticed - the blogs page has a list of names, but no explanation of who they
> are or why people might be interested in their blogs. Maybe a short line or two would
> help here?

Hey, if they're there...they are important ! :-)
I have to leave some incentive to click the blog links and find out why!

Thanks for your comments, Alan!



Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : [url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]
==========================

"Alan Silver" <alan-silver@nospam.thanx> wrote in message
news:LMsEg3F2guJDFwe6@nospamthankyou.spam...

> >See if you like the interface better now, Alan.
>>
>>[url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]
>>
>>;-)

>
> That's fantastic!! It's amazing how much more usable it is with a nice design.
>
> One more comment - the general ASP.NET info questions section would still benefit from
> having all the questions as links at the top. That way you could scan them and see if
> your question is answered. The links would just point further down the page where the
> questions and answers would be shown exactly as you have them now.
>
> As this section of the FAQ grows (I presume this is where the questions that are
> actually asked frequently in the n/g would go), this could be split into subpages, each
> with the same format.
>
> An excellent resource. Please keep up the good work. I suggest a call to all users of
> the group to contribute what they feel are good candidates for the FAQ. That will save
> you a lot of work as you won't have to write them all, and it will hopefully fill up the
> FAQ with the sorts of questions that actually do get asked here regularly. That way,
> when they get asked, we can just provide an URL that points to the answer. If people
> post their suggestions in the group, we can all discuss them before they put in the FAQ.
> We did this in another group I was in years ago, and we built a great FAQ very quickly
> thanks to a joint effort by the regulars.
>
> Thanks again for your efforts. Ta ra
> alan
>
> P.S. Just noticed - the blogs page has a list of names, but no explanation of who they
> are or why people might be interested in their blogs. Maybe a short line or two would
> help here? Just like to keep you busy!!
>
> --
> Alan Silver
> (anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)

[Alan Silver]

Juan,

Thanks for the reply. Just a few more comments...

>> this could be split into subpages, each with the same format.

>
>I did one for "Classic ASP", and am working on porting it to ASP.NET.
>
>It had a "drill-down" model, with the basic categories in a dropdown list,
>which would display a list of questions for each category, but also had
>a keyword search capability.

Excellent.

>One thing which I think is important is to have demos of each Q&A,
>and source code views ( for the FAQs which require sample code ).

That's a very good idea, I hadn't thought of that.

>That is, potentially, the most time-consuming part.

Yup, but the one where you could most benefit from everyone here
chipping in.

>re:

>> I suggest a call to all users of the group to contribute what they
>>feel are good
>> candidates for the FAQ.

>
>If the contributions come in, it will make the FAQ more useful.

If I were you, I would post a new message asking people for suggestions.
Once they are posted publicly, others could comment and you would see
what people feel are the most useful questions.

>I wish everybody would get involved, as this is, potentially,
>a strong resource. There's some online FAQs, but they are
>not as complete as what I think they should be.

I'm sure they will, given the encouragement!!

>re:

>> P.S. Just noticed - the blogs page has a list of names, but no
>>explanation of who they
>> are or why people might be interested in their blogs. Maybe a short
>>line or two would
>> help here?

>
>Hey, if they're there...they are important ! :-)

Important, yup, unexplained, yup!!

Seriously, just listing the names will mean nothing to a newbie. They
won't have time to start reading through each one to find out who they
are and why their blog is worth reading. I've been at this a while and I
still don't know. I recognise names, but wouldn't know where to look if
I wanted info on some particular aspect.

>I have to leave some incentive to click the blog links and find out why!

Unfortunately, I reckon most people either wouldn't bother, or would
only get as far as the first or (possibly) second.

>Thanks for your comments, Alan!

Pleasure. Thanks again for your efforts.
a

--
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)

[Alvin Bruney - ASP.NET MVP]

How much time ? I don't know.

>
> Hopefully, I will be able to do it soon.

awww, c'mon. give a time frame - make a committment

--
Regards,
Alvin Bruney [MVP ASP.NET]

[Shameless Author plug]
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Now Available @ [url]www.lulu.com/owc[/url]
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"Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:OqWo48HuFHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

> re:

> > One more comment - the general ASP.NET info questions section would

still benefit from

> > having all the questions as links at the top.

>
> That *will* happen...in V2 of the FAQ.
> The next step is to add a "Q & A" section.
>
> That will entail, however, designing a database structure to host the

info,

> so it will be some time before it's ready. How much time ? I don't know.
>
> Hopefully, I will be able to do it soon.
>
> re:

> > As this section of the FAQ grows (I presume this is where the questions

that are

> > actually asked frequently in the n/g would go),

>
> Right, but as part of the ASP.NET Q & A section of the FAQ.
>
> The "Basic Info" page will stay as it is.
>
> I want the info for beginners to be easily locatable,
> and having a dedicated page for "Basic Info" is good,
> so that the absolute beginner knows exactly where to go
>
> re:

> > this could be split into subpages, each with the same format.

>
> I did one for "Classic ASP", and am working on porting it to ASP.NET.
>
> It had a "drill-down" model, with the basic categories in a dropdown list,
> which would display a list of questions for each category, but also had
> a keyword search capability.
>
> One thing which I think is important is to have demos of each Q&A,
> and source code views ( for the FAQs which require sample code ).
>
> That is, potentially, the most time-consuming part.
>
> re:

> > An excellent resource. Please keep up the good work.

>
> Thanks. I hope it fulfills a good function for the ASP.NET community.
>
> re:

> > I suggest a call to all users of the group to contribute what they feel

are good

> > candidates for the FAQ.

>
> If the contributions come in, it will make the FAQ more useful.
>
> I wish everybody would get involved, as this is, potentially,
> a strong resource. There's some online FAQs, but they are
> not as complete as what I think they should be.
>
> My intent is to have an ad-free site for as long as I can,
> so I hope to get the necessary collaboration to make it
> as complete -and as fast-loading (no ads) - as possible.
>
> re:

> > That way, when they get asked, we can just provide an URL that points to

the answer.

>
> That's the way it will work.
>
> re:

> > P.S. Just noticed - the blogs page has a list of names, but no

explanation of who they

> > are or why people might be interested in their blogs. Maybe a short

line or two would

> > help here?

>
> Hey, if they're there...they are important ! :-)
> I have to leave some incentive to click the blog links and find out why!
>
> Thanks for your comments, Alan!
>
>
>
> Juan T. Llibre
> ASP.NET MVP
> ASP.NET FAQ : [url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]
> ==========================
>
> "Alan Silver" <alan-silver@nospam.thanx> wrote in message
> news:LMsEg3F2guJDFwe6@nospamthankyou.spam...

> > >See if you like the interface better now, Alan.
> >>
> >>[url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]
> >>
> >>;-)

> >
> > That's fantastic!! It's amazing how much more usable it is with a nice

design.

> >
> > One more comment - the general ASP.NET info questions section would

still benefit from

> > having all the questions as links at the top. That way you could scan

them and see if

> > your question is answered. The links would just point further down the

page where the

> > questions and answers would be shown exactly as you have them now.
> >
> > As this section of the FAQ grows (I presume this is where the questions

that are

> > actually asked frequently in the n/g would go), this could be split into

subpages, each

> > with the same format.
> >
> > An excellent resource. Please keep up the good work. I suggest a call to

all users of

> > the group to contribute what they feel are good candidates for the FAQ.

That will save

> > you a lot of work as you won't have to write them all, and it will

hopefully fill up the

> > FAQ with the sorts of questions that actually do get asked here

regularly. That way,

> > when they get asked, we can just provide an URL that points to the

answer. If people

> > post their suggestions in the group, we can all discuss them before they

put in the FAQ.

> > We did this in another group I was in years ago, and we built a great

FAQ very quickly

> > thanks to a joint effort by the regulars.
> >
> > Thanks again for your efforts. Ta ra
> > alan
> >
> > P.S. Just noticed - the blogs page has a list of names, but no

explanation of who they

> > are or why people might be interested in their blogs. Maybe a short line

or two would

> > help here? Just like to keep you busy!!
> >
> > --
> > Alan Silver
> > (anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)

>
>

[Juan T. Llibre]

:-)



Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : [url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]
==========================

"Alvin Bruney - ASP.NET MVP" <www.lulu.com/owc> wrote in message
news:eSCLoYIuFHA.2880@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

> How much time ? I don't know.

>>
>> Hopefully, I will be able to do it soon.

> awww, c'mon. give a time frame - make a committment
>
> --
> Regards,
> Alvin Bruney [MVP ASP.NET]

> "Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:OqWo48HuFHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

>> re:

>> > One more comment - the general ASP.NET info questions section would

> still benefit from

>> > having all the questions as links at the top.

>>
>> That *will* happen...in V2 of the FAQ.
>> The next step is to add a "Q & A" section.
>>
>> That will entail, however, designing a database structure to host the

> info,

>> so it will be some time before it's ready. How much time ? I don't know.
>>
>> Hopefully, I will be able to do it soon.
>>
>> re:

>> > As this section of the FAQ grows (I presume this is where the questions

> that are

>> > actually asked frequently in the n/g would go),

>>
>> Right, but as part of the ASP.NET Q & A section of the FAQ.
>>
>> The "Basic Info" page will stay as it is.
>>
>> I want the info for beginners to be easily locatable,
>> and having a dedicated page for "Basic Info" is good,
>> so that the absolute beginner knows exactly where to go
>>
>> re:

>> > this could be split into subpages, each with the same format.

>>
>> I did one for "Classic ASP", and am working on porting it to ASP.NET.
>>
>> It had a "drill-down" model, with the basic categories in a dropdown list,
>> which would display a list of questions for each category, but also had
>> a keyword search capability.
>>
>> One thing which I think is important is to have demos of each Q&A,
>> and source code views ( for the FAQs which require sample code ).
>>
>> That is, potentially, the most time-consuming part.
>>
>> re:

>> > An excellent resource. Please keep up the good work.

>>
>> Thanks. I hope it fulfills a good function for the ASP.NET community.
>>
>> re:

>> > I suggest a call to all users of the group to contribute what they feel

> are good

>> > candidates for the FAQ.

>>
>> If the contributions come in, it will make the FAQ more useful.
>>
>> I wish everybody would get involved, as this is, potentially,
>> a strong resource. There's some online FAQs, but they are
>> not as complete as what I think they should be.
>>
>> My intent is to have an ad-free site for as long as I can,
>> so I hope to get the necessary collaboration to make it
>> as complete -and as fast-loading (no ads) - as possible.
>>
>> re:

>> > That way, when they get asked, we can just provide an URL that points to

> the answer.

>>
>> That's the way it will work.
>>
>> re:

>> > P.S. Just noticed - the blogs page has a list of names, but no

> explanation of who they

>> > are or why people might be interested in their blogs. Maybe a short

> line or two would

>> > help here?

>>
>> Hey, if they're there...they are important ! :-)
>> I have to leave some incentive to click the blog links and find out why!
>>
>> Thanks for your comments, Alan!
>>
>>
>>
>> Juan T. Llibre
>> ASP.NET MVP
>> ASP.NET FAQ : [url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]
>> ==========================
>>
>> "Alan Silver" <alan-silver@nospam.thanx> wrote in message
>> news:LMsEg3F2guJDFwe6@nospamthankyou.spam...

>> > >See if you like the interface better now, Alan.
>> >>
>> >>[url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]
>> >>
>> >>;-)
>> >
>> > That's fantastic!! It's amazing how much more usable it is with a nice

> design.

>> >
>> > One more comment - the general ASP.NET info questions section would

> still benefit from

>> > having all the questions as links at the top. That way you could scan

> them and see if

>> > your question is answered. The links would just point further down the

> page where the

>> > questions and answers would be shown exactly as you have them now.
>> >
>> > As this section of the FAQ grows (I presume this is where the questions

> that are

>> > actually asked frequently in the n/g would go), this could be split into

> subpages, each

>> > with the same format.
>> >
>> > An excellent resource. Please keep up the good work. I suggest a call to

> all users of

>> > the group to contribute what they feel are good candidates for the FAQ.

> That will save

>> > you a lot of work as you won't have to write them all, and it will

> hopefully fill up the

>> > FAQ with the sorts of questions that actually do get asked here

> regularly. That way,

>> > when they get asked, we can just provide an URL that points to the

> answer. If people

>> > post their suggestions in the group, we can all discuss them before they

> put in the FAQ.

>> > We did this in another group I was in years ago, and we built a great

> FAQ very quickly

>> > thanks to a joint effort by the regulars.
>> >
>> > Thanks again for your efforts. Ta ra
>> > alan
>> >
>> > P.S. Just noticed - the blogs page has a list of names, but no

> explanation of who they

>> > are or why people might be interested in their blogs. Maybe a short line

> or two would

>> > help here? Just like to keep you busy!!
>> >
>> > --
>> > Alan Silver
>> > (anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)

>>
>>

>
>

[Patrick.O.Ige]

Juan good Job!!!
Patrick
"Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:ODtLzbIuFHA.2560@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

>
> :-)
>
>
>
> Juan T. Llibre
> ASP.NET MVP
> ASP.NET FAQ : [url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]
> ==========================
>
> "Alvin Bruney - ASP.NET MVP" <www.lulu.com/owc> wrote in message
> news:eSCLoYIuFHA.2880@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

> > How much time ? I don't know.

> >>
> >> Hopefully, I will be able to do it soon.

>

> > awww, c'mon. give a time frame - make a committment
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Alvin Bruney [MVP ASP.NET]

>

> > "Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:OqWo48HuFHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

> >> re:
> >> > One more comment - the general ASP.NET info questions section would

> > still benefit from

> >> > having all the questions as links at the top.
> >>
> >> That *will* happen...in V2 of the FAQ.
> >> The next step is to add a "Q & A" section.
> >>
> >> That will entail, however, designing a database structure to host the

> > info,

> >> so it will be some time before it's ready. How much time ? I don't

know.

> >>
> >> Hopefully, I will be able to do it soon.
> >>
> >> re:
> >> > As this section of the FAQ grows (I presume this is where the

questions

> > that are

> >> > actually asked frequently in the n/g would go),
> >>
> >> Right, but as part of the ASP.NET Q & A section of the FAQ.
> >>
> >> The "Basic Info" page will stay as it is.
> >>
> >> I want the info for beginners to be easily locatable,
> >> and having a dedicated page for "Basic Info" is good,
> >> so that the absolute beginner knows exactly where to go
> >>
> >> re:
> >> > this could be split into subpages, each with the same format.
> >>
> >> I did one for "Classic ASP", and am working on porting it to ASP.NET.
> >>
> >> It had a "drill-down" model, with the basic categories in a dropdown

list,

> >> which would display a list of questions for each category, but also had
> >> a keyword search capability.
> >>
> >> One thing which I think is important is to have demos of each Q&A,
> >> and source code views ( for the FAQs which require sample code ).
> >>
> >> That is, potentially, the most time-consuming part.
> >>
> >> re:
> >> > An excellent resource. Please keep up the good work.
> >>
> >> Thanks. I hope it fulfills a good function for the ASP.NET community.
> >>
> >> re:
> >> > I suggest a call to all users of the group to contribute what they

feel

> > are good

> >> > candidates for the FAQ.
> >>
> >> If the contributions come in, it will make the FAQ more useful.
> >>
> >> I wish everybody would get involved, as this is, potentially,
> >> a strong resource. There's some online FAQs, but they are
> >> not as complete as what I think they should be.
> >>
> >> My intent is to have an ad-free site for as long as I can,
> >> so I hope to get the necessary collaboration to make it
> >> as complete -and as fast-loading (no ads) - as possible.
> >>
> >> re:
> >> > That way, when they get asked, we can just provide an URL that points

to

> > the answer.

> >>
> >> That's the way it will work.
> >>
> >> re:
> >> > P.S. Just noticed - the blogs page has a list of names, but no

> > explanation of who they

> >> > are or why people might be interested in their blogs. Maybe a short

> > line or two would

> >> > help here?
> >>
> >> Hey, if they're there...they are important ! :-)
> >> I have to leave some incentive to click the blog links and find out

why!

> >>
> >> Thanks for your comments, Alan!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Juan T. Llibre
> >> ASP.NET MVP
> >> ASP.NET FAQ : [url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]
> >> ==========================
> >>
> >> "Alan Silver" <alan-silver@nospam.thanx> wrote in message
> >> news:LMsEg3F2guJDFwe6@nospamthankyou.spam...
> >> > >See if you like the interface better now, Alan.
> >> >>
> >> >>[url]http://asp.net.do/faq/[/url]
> >> >>
> >> >>;-)
> >> >
> >> > That's fantastic!! It's amazing how much more usable it is with a

nice

> > design.

> >> >
> >> > One more comment - the general ASP.NET info questions section would

> > still benefit from

> >> > having all the questions as links at the top. That way you could scan

> > them and see if

> >> > your question is answered. The links would just point further down

the

> > page where the

> >> > questions and answers would be shown exactly as you have them now.
> >> >
> >> > As this section of the FAQ grows (I presume this is where the

questions

> > that are

> >> > actually asked frequently in the n/g would go), this could be split

into

> > subpages, each

> >> > with the same format.
> >> >
> >> > An excellent resource. Please keep up the good work. I suggest a call

to

> > all users of

> >> > the group to contribute what they feel are good candidates for the

FAQ.

> > That will save

> >> > you a lot of work as you won't have to write them all, and it will

> > hopefully fill up the

> >> > FAQ with the sorts of questions that actually do get asked here

> > regularly. That way,

> >> > when they get asked, we can just provide an URL that points to the

> > answer. If people

> >> > post their suggestions in the group, we can all discuss them before

they

> > put in the FAQ.

> >> > We did this in another group I was in years ago, and we built a great

> > FAQ very quickly

> >> > thanks to a joint effort by the regulars.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again for your efforts. Ta ra
> >> > alan
> >> >
> >> > P.S. Just noticed - the blogs page has a list of names, but no

> > explanation of who they

> >> > are or why people might be interested in their blogs. Maybe a short

line

> > or two would

> >> > help here? Just like to keep you busy!!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Alan Silver
> >> > (anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>