Two way Text on a circular path

I'm a Freehand user trying (needing) to learn Illustrator.

I have figure out how to set text round a path (a complete circle in this case)
But I want to set the top of the circle to read left to Right on the baseline and the
second sentence to read left to right with the top of the characters fitting the curve.

I freehand you just enter a return (New line) and it happens automatically.

Why not two circular paths with text going one way on one and the other one on the other?

Then you can use baseline shift to get the text where you want it.
There's no formula for this, you'll just have to bodge it until it looks right.

We have crossposted here.

If you use two circles then the text on the bottom will be too high and you will need to take it downwards.

Is this what you want to do?

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Do you know how to do the first circle of text?

Yea, I have done the first circle and Yup, I'm already down the "bodge it" course of action, but it seems clumsy. I'm glad you understand the problem though. It's simple, but difficult explain. There must be a tidy way of doing this.

You'll get it. What are you having the most problems with?

Sorry to anyone just joining in. The link wont work since I broke my web page shortly after my last post.

This one needs to be in the FAQs

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David, it's just clunkier than FreeHand (I'm an ex-user as well). You simply can't get type above and below on a single ellipse... need to copy and flip. (Why do you need to switch to AI?)