(U) What are the best Perl books out there ... More than 1 is fin e ... list as many as you like

[Michael Johnson]

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[Drieux]

On Feb 4, 2004, at 2:36 PM, Johnson, Michael wrote:

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I guess a part of the question is at what level.

My general documentation is at:
<http://www.wetware.com/drieux/CS/Proj/TPFH/gen_doc.html>

if you feel at home reading just Perl Doc's,
the the simpler fix is to read it from

<http://www.perldoc.com/>

so are you looking at reading or teaching?


ciao
drieux

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[Wolf Blaum]

Hi,
I like:

Learning Perl by Randal Schwartz & Tom Phoenix as a good introduction with
tons of further references

Programing Perl by Larry Wall, Tom Christiansen and Jon Orwant as the ultimate
refernce and pillow

Mastering Perl/Tk by Steve Lidie and Nancy Walsh for times when I dont have
access to this mailing list and zentaras hints

The Perl Cookbook by Tom Christiansen and Nathan Torkington for when I was to
lasy to think for myself (or wanted to get depressed by how much better one
could solve the problem Ive been working on in hunderts of lines)

And even though I never read it in the linear way: Mastering regular
expressions by Jeffrey Friedl

Not to forget: perldoc perltoc or [url]www.perldoc.com[/url]

and The Hitchhickers Guide to the Galaxy and Last Chance to see by Douglas
Adams.

I guess others would recomend The Lord of the rings too.

Good night:-)
Wolf

[Randy W. Sims]

On 2/4/2004 10:17 PM, wolf blaum wrote:

> Hi,
> I like:
>
> Learning Perl by Randal Schwartz & Tom Phoenix as a good introduction with
> tons of further references
>
> Programing Perl by Larry Wall, Tom Christiansen and Jon Orwant as the ultimate
> refernce and pillow
>
> Mastering Perl/Tk by Steve Lidie and Nancy Walsh for times when I dont have
> access to this mailing list and zentaras hints
>
> The Perl Cookbook by Tom Christiansen and Nathan Torkington for when I was to
> lasy to think for myself (or wanted to get depressed by how much better one
> could solve the problem Ive been working on in hunderts of lines)
>
> And even though I never read it in the linear way: Mastering regular
> expressions by Jeffrey Friedl
>
> Not to forget: perldoc perltoc or [url]www.perldoc.com[/url]
>
> and The Hitchhickers Guide to the Galaxy and Last Chance to see by Douglas
> Adams.
>
> I guess others would recomend The Lord of the rings too.
>
> Good night:-)
> Wolf

Since there was no mention what kind of perl books (beginner, etc.):

I'd add: "Object Oriented Perl" by Damian Conway, I've also been wanting
to check out "Learning Perl Objects, References, & Modules" by Randall
Schwartz. "Advanced Perl Programming" by Sriram Srinivasan (getting
slightly out of date; seems I heard of updated edition coming ???).
"Effective Perl Programming" by Joseph Hall is not bad. "Writing Perl
Modules for CPAN" by Sam Tregar is pretty good if your going to write
modules for CPAN. "Extending & Embedding Perl" by Tim Jenness & Simon
Cozens is good if your going to get into Perl/XS.

You'll definately want the Perl Cookbook mentioned above. It's the Perl
equivelant of the Effective C++ books.

Regards,
Randy.

[Harvey Kelly]

Hello,

If you've no experience whatsoever, then Beginning Perl for
Bioinformatics is
very helpful - then move on to Learning Perl I guess. It assumes no
prior
knowledge, and although its focus is on Biology, it's all just data
isn't it?

Cheers,

Harvey

-------------------

>On 2/4/2004 10:17 PM, wolf blaum wrote:
>

>> Hi,
>> I like:
>>
>> Learning Perl by Randal Schwartz & Tom Phoenix as a good

introduction
with

>> tons of further references
>>
>> Programing Perl by Larry Wall, Tom Christiansen and Jon Orwant as

the
ultimate

>> refernce and pillow
>>
>> Mastering Perl/Tk by Steve Lidie and Nancy Walsh for times when I

dont
have

>> access to this mailing list and zentaras hints
>>
>> The Perl Cookbook by Tom Christiansen and Nathan Torkington for

when I
was to

>> lasy to think for myself (or wanted to get depressed by how much

better one

>> could solve the problem Ive been working on in hunderts of lines)
>>
>> And even though I never read it in the linear way: Mastering

regular

>> expressions by Jeffrey Friedl
>>
>> Not to forget: perldoc perltoc or [url]www.perldoc.com[/url]
>>
>> and The Hitchhickers Guide to the Galaxy and Last Chance to see by

Douglas

>> Adams.
>>
>> I guess others would recomend The Lord of the rings too.
>>
>> Good night:-)
>> Wolf

>
>Since there was no mention what kind of perl books (beginner, etc.):
>
>I'd add: "Object Oriented Perl" by Damian Conway, I've also been

wanting

>to check out "Learning Perl Objects, References, & Modules" by

Randall

>Schwartz. "Advanced Perl Programming" by Sriram Srinivasan (getting
>slightly out of date; seems I heard of updated edition coming ???).
>"Effective Perl Programming" by Joseph Hall is not bad. "Writing Perl

>Modules for CPAN" by Sam Tregar is pretty good if your going to write

>modules for CPAN. "Extending & Embedding Perl" by Tim Jenness & Simon

>Cozens is good if your going to get into Perl/XS.
>
>You'll definately want the Perl Cookbook mentioned above. It's the

Perl

>equivelant of the Effective C++ books.
>
>Regards,
>Randy.
>
>
>
>--
>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email]beginners-unsubscribe@perl.org[/email]
>For additional commands, e-mail: [email]beginners-help@perl.org[/email]
><http://learn.perl.org/> <http://learn.perl.org/first-response>
>
>
>

Harvey Kelly
mailto:harvey.kelly@kcl.ac.uk

[Km]

Hi all,

sorry i think its the otherway around. first one should know the technical basics of Perl language then dive into books like 'Beginning Perl for Bioinformatics'. As far as i have seen people who have learnt Perl language initially and then read books like those fared far better than people who took those books without knowing what Perl language is.

regards,
KM
-------------------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 12:08:21PM -0000, Harvey Kelly wrote:

> Hello,
>
> If you've no experience whatsoever, then Beginning Perl for
> Bioinformatics is
> very helpful - then move on to Learning Perl I guess. It assumes no
> prior
> knowledge, and although its focus is on Biology, it's all just data
> isn't it?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Harvey
>
> -------------------

> >On 2/4/2004 10:17 PM, wolf blaum wrote:
> >

> >> Hi,
> >> I like:
> >>
> >> Learning Perl by Randal Schwartz & Tom Phoenix as a good

> introduction
> with

> >> tons of further references
> >>
> >> Programing Perl by Larry Wall, Tom Christiansen and Jon Orwant as

> the
> ultimate

> >> refernce and pillow
> >>
> >> Mastering Perl/Tk by Steve Lidie and Nancy Walsh for times when I

> dont
> have

> >> access to this mailing list and zentaras hints
> >>
> >> The Perl Cookbook by Tom Christiansen and Nathan Torkington for

> when I
> was to

> >> lasy to think for myself (or wanted to get depressed by how much

> better one

> >> could solve the problem Ive been working on in hunderts of lines)
> >>
> >> And even though I never read it in the linear way: Mastering

> regular

> >> expressions by Jeffrey Friedl
> >>
> >> Not to forget: perldoc perltoc or [url]www.perldoc.com[/url]
> >>
> >> and The Hitchhickers Guide to the Galaxy and Last Chance to see by

> Douglas

> >> Adams.
> >>
> >> I guess others would recomend The Lord of the rings too.
> >>
> >> Good night:-)
> >> Wolf

> >
> >Since there was no mention what kind of perl books (beginner, etc.):
> >
> >I'd add: "Object Oriented Perl" by Damian Conway, I've also been

> wanting

> >to check out "Learning Perl Objects, References, & Modules" by

> Randall

> >Schwartz. "Advanced Perl Programming" by Sriram Srinivasan (getting
> >slightly out of date; seems I heard of updated edition coming ???).
> >"Effective Perl Programming" by Joseph Hall is not bad. "Writing Perl

>

> >Modules for CPAN" by Sam Tregar is pretty good if your going to write

>

> >modules for CPAN. "Extending & Embedding Perl" by Tim Jenness & Simon

>

> >Cozens is good if your going to get into Perl/XS.
> >
> >You'll definately want the Perl Cookbook mentioned above. It's the

> Perl

> >equivelant of the Effective C++ books.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Randy.
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email]beginners-unsubscribe@perl.org[/email]
> >For additional commands, e-mail: [email]beginners-help@perl.org[/email]
> ><http://learn.perl.org/> <http://learn.perl.org/first-response>
> >
> >
> >

>
> Harvey Kelly
> mailto:harvey.kelly@kcl.ac.uk
>
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> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email]beginners-unsubscribe@perl.org[/email]
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> <http://learn.perl.org/> <http://learn.perl.org/first-response>
>
>

[Harvey Kelly]

Hello all,

Yeah that does make sense, but my experience (and I'm only speaking
for
myself here) is that learning about basics like scalar variables and
arrays etc.
first is a little daunting. With the Bioinfo. book I was writing
programs (well,
doing the exercises) straight away. Kinda like when I learnt French
(pretentious? Moi?), I was speaking phrases and communicating before
worrying about grammer - the grammer comes naturally the more you get
into
the language.

But I take your point and some people (most?) would find your
suggestion
helpful.

Harvey

-------------------

>Hi all,
>
>sorry i think its the otherway around. first one should know the

technical basics
of Perl language then dive into books like 'Beginning Perl for
Bioinformatics'. As
far as i have seen people who have learnt Perl language initially and
then read
books like those fared far better than people who took those books
without
knowing what Perl language is.

>
>regards,
>KM
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 12:08:21PM -0000, Harvey Kelly wrote:

>> Hello,
>>
>> If you've no experience whatsoever, then Beginning Perl for
>> Bioinformatics is
>> very helpful - then move on to Learning Perl I guess. It assumes

no

>> prior
>> knowledge, and although its focus is on Biology, it's all just data
>> isn't it?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Harvey
>>
>> -------------------

>> >On 2/4/2004 10:17 PM, wolf blaum wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >> I like:
>> >>
>> >> Learning Perl by Randal Schwartz & Tom Phoenix as a good

>> introduction
>> with

>> >> tons of further references
>> >>
>> >> Programing Perl by Larry Wall, Tom Christiansen and Jon Orwant

as

>> the
>> ultimate

>> >> refernce and pillow
>> >>
>> >> Mastering Perl/Tk by Steve Lidie and Nancy Walsh for times when

I

>> dont
>> have

>> >> access to this mailing list and zentaras hints
>> >>
>> >> The Perl Cookbook by Tom Christiansen and Nathan Torkington for

>> when I
>> was to

>> >> lasy to think for myself (or wanted to get depressed by how much

>> better one

>> >> could solve the problem Ive been working on in hunderts of

lines)

>> >>
>> >> And even though I never read it in the linear way: Mastering

>> regular

>> >> expressions by Jeffrey Friedl
>> >>
>> >> Not to forget: perldoc perltoc or [url]www.perldoc.com[/url]
>> >>
>> >> and The Hitchhickers Guide to the Galaxy and Last Chance to see

by

>> Douglas

>> >> Adams.
>> >>
>> >> I guess others would recomend The Lord of the rings too.
>> >>
>> >> Good night:-)
>> >> Wolf
>> >
>> >Since there was no mention what kind of perl books (beginner,

etc.):

>> >
>> >I'd add: "Object Oriented Perl" by Damian Conway, I've also been

>> wanting

>> >to check out "Learning Perl Objects, References, & Modules" by

>> Randall

>> >Schwartz. "Advanced Perl Programming" by Sriram Srinivasan

(getting

>> >slightly out of date; seems I heard of updated edition coming

???).

>> >"Effective Perl Programming" by Joseph Hall is not bad. "Writing

Perl

>>

>> >Modules for CPAN" by Sam Tregar is pretty good if your going to

write

>>

>> >modules for CPAN. "Extending & Embedding Perl" by Tim Jenness &

Simon

>>

>> >Cozens is good if your going to get into Perl/XS.
>> >
>> >You'll definately want the Perl Cookbook mentioned above. It's the

>> Perl

>> >equivelant of the Effective C++ books.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Randy.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email]beginners-unsubscribe@perl.org[/email]
>> >For additional commands, e-mail: [email]beginners-help@perl.org[/email]
>> ><http://learn.perl.org/> <http://learn.perl.org/first-response>
>> >
>> >
>> >

>>
>> Harvey Kelly
>> mailto:harvey.kelly@kcl.ac.uk
>>
>> --
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email]beginners-unsubscribe@perl.org[/email]
>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email]beginners-help@perl.org[/email]
>> <http://learn.perl.org/> <http://learn.perl.org/first-response>
>>
>>

>
>
>

Harvey Kelly
mailto:harvey.kelly@kcl.ac.uk

[Km]

Hi all,

>learning about basics like scalar variables and
> arrays etc.
> first is a little daunting. With the Bioinfo. book I was writing
> programs (well,

If u are a novice to programming, well it might be a bit difficult initially - i agree.

> doing the exercises) straight away. Kinda like when I learnt French
> (pretentious? Moi?), I was speaking phrases and communicating before
> worrying about grammer - the grammer comes naturally the more you get
> into
> the language.

well i 'd like to say that learning natural language (write/speak) is different from learning a programming language. in a natural language u get to the tune of the accent also along with grammar where as here it doesnt have any. well, we cant say "i speak in Perl language" ;-P.

i have also noticed people who only start with those 'Perl for Bioinfo' books get stuck when they need to do something beyond what is taught in the book.coz learning a language at the first place increases the scope of applicativity which u might miss otherwise. i have learnt Perl language first then applying it for bioinfo.

> But I take your point and some people (most?) would find your
> suggestion
> helpful.

well its up to u/them :-) Its just a suggestion.

> Harvey

regards,
KM

> >Hi all,
> >
> >sorry i think its the otherway around. first one should know the

> technical basics
> of Perl language then dive into books like 'Beginning Perl for
> Bioinformatics'. As
> far as i have seen people who have learnt Perl language initially and
> then read
> books like those fared far better than people who took those books
> without
> knowing what Perl language is.

> >
> >regards,
> >KM
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------
> >On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 12:08:21PM -0000, Harvey Kelly wrote:

> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> If you've no experience whatsoever, then Beginning Perl for
> >> Bioinformatics is
> >> very helpful - then move on to Learning Perl I guess. It assumes

> no

> >> prior
> >> knowledge, and although its focus is on Biology, it's all just data
> >> isn't it?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Harvey
> >>
> >> -------------------
> >> >On 2/4/2004 10:17 PM, wolf blaum wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> I like:
> >> >>
> >> >> Learning Perl by Randal Schwartz & Tom Phoenix as a good
> >> introduction
> >> with
> >> >> tons of further references
> >> >>
> >> >> Programing Perl by Larry Wall, Tom Christiansen and Jon Orwant

> as

> >> the
> >> ultimate
> >> >> refernce and pillow
> >> >>
> >> >> Mastering Perl/Tk by Steve Lidie and Nancy Walsh for times when

> I

> >> dont
> >> have
> >> >> access to this mailing list and zentaras hints
> >> >>
> >> >> The Perl Cookbook by Tom Christiansen and Nathan Torkington for
> >> when I
> >> was to
> >> >> lasy to think for myself (or wanted to get depressed by how much
> >> better one
> >> >> could solve the problem Ive been working on in hunderts of

> lines)

> >> >>
> >> >> And even though I never read it in the linear way: Mastering
> >> regular
> >> >> expressions by Jeffrey Friedl
> >> >>
> >> >> Not to forget: perldoc perltoc or [url]www.perldoc.com[/url]
> >> >>
> >> >> and The Hitchhickers Guide to the Galaxy and Last Chance to see

> by

> >> Douglas
> >> >> Adams.
> >> >>
> >> >> I guess others would recomend The Lord of the rings too.
> >> >>
> >> >> Good night:-)
> >> >> Wolf
> >> >
> >> >Since there was no mention what kind of perl books (beginner,

> etc.):

> >> >
> >> >I'd add: "Object Oriented Perl" by Damian Conway, I've also been
> >> wanting
> >> >to check out "Learning Perl Objects, References, & Modules" by
> >> Randall
> >> >Schwartz. "Advanced Perl Programming" by Sriram Srinivasan

> (getting

> >> >slightly out of date; seems I heard of updated edition coming

> ???).

> >> >"Effective Perl Programming" by Joseph Hall is not bad. "Writing

> Perl

> >>
> >> >Modules for CPAN" by Sam Tregar is pretty good if your going to

> write

> >>
> >> >modules for CPAN. "Extending & Embedding Perl" by Tim Jenness &

> Simon

> >>
> >> >Cozens is good if your going to get into Perl/XS.
> >> >
> >> >You'll definately want the Perl Cookbook mentioned above. It's the
> >> Perl
> >> >equivelant of the Effective C++ books.
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >Randy.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email]beginners-unsubscribe@perl.org[/email]
> >> >For additional commands, e-mail: [email]beginners-help@perl.org[/email]
> >> ><http://learn.perl.org/> <http://learn.perl.org/first-response>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Harvey Kelly
> >> mailto:harvey.kelly@kcl.ac.uk
> >>
> >> --
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email]beginners-unsubscribe@perl.org[/email]
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email]beginners-help@perl.org[/email]
> >> <http://learn.perl.org/> <http://learn.perl.org/first-response>
> >>
> >>

> >
> >
> >

>
> Harvey Kelly
> mailto:harvey.kelly@kcl.ac.uk