Ubuntu locks up using Frostwire

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I am fairly new to Linux, only 12 months experience. I will never go back to
Winblows... I love it!!!!
I have learned a heap of stuff. Generally I can figure out issues with my
system with help from my mate Google... but this one has got me!...

I run Ubuntu breezy... and I use Frostwire as a P2P application. After a
couple of hours with this application open, the system locks up. The only
option is to hit the power button.
I tried Limewire also, but still had the same issue.

I have read the Frostwire forums, but it seems very windows based.

Can anyone shed some light on this problem. I have a feeling it is a Java
related problem.


Thanks in advance... Dale

[CoSTa]

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> I run Ubuntu breezy... and I use Frostwire as a P2P application. After a
> couple of hours with this application open, the system locks up. The only
> option is to hit the power button.
> I tried Limewire also, but still had the same issue.

i'll be not very helpfull with this one piece of software (not using it)
but maybe it's a time for trying something else? i'm using mldonkey on
my desktop and it runs for weeks without problems. it supports a variety
of p2p networks, it's a well written application and has a lot of
documentation. it can look somehow "hard" to learn but if you learn it,
you'll propably love it. why not to give a try?

more to find here:
[url]http://mldonkey.org/[/url]

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[Michael B. Trausch]

Visualeyez This Marketing Solutions wrote in
<126koi86vijqm3a@corp.supernews.com> on Tue May 16 2006 19:31:

>
> I am fairly new to Linux, only 12 months experience. I will never go back
> to Winblows... I love it!!!!
> I have learned a heap of stuff. Generally I can figure out issues with my
> system with help from my mate Google... but this one has got me!...
>
> I run Ubuntu breezy... and I use Frostwire as a P2P application. After a
> couple of hours with this application open, the system locks up. The only
> option is to hit the power button.
> I tried Limewire also, but still had the same issue.
>
> I have read the Frostwire forums, but it seems very windows based.
>
> Can anyone shed some light on this problem. I have a feeling it is a Java
> related problem.
>
> Thanks in advance... Dale
>

First things first, if you have other machines that are on the network, try
installing openssh-server and when the system "locks up" see if you can SSH
into the machine. If it's still responding on the network, then it's not
locked up, there's just a problem elsewhere. However, if it is locking
up -- then you have a very different problem. A truly hard lockup cannot
be caused by an application itself. Some of the potential causes (in no
particular order):

* Bad memory in the kernel area.
* CPU overheating.
* Bug in a system driver or kernel level module.
* Bad system board.

Now, the last one is a bit farfetched -- but it is possible. However,
sometimes X11 will appear to lockup -- and the only solution is to use SSH
to get into the box and kill it. Some binary drivers (such as the nVidia
drivers) sometimes have problems that can cause X to "run away" and make
the system appear to be locked up, where the keyboard is locked, the
display is frozen, and that's it. You're going to have to do some more
footwork to find out what the problem is, though. See if you can find
problems in the syslogs and such.

HTH,
Mike

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"Michael B. Trausch" <michael.trausch.no.spam@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Visualeyez This Marketing Solutions wrote in
> <126koi86vijqm3a@corp.supernews.com> on Tue May 16 2006 19:31:

> >
> > I am fairly new to Linux, only 12 months experience. I will never go

back

> > to Winblows... I love it!!!!
> > I have learned a heap of stuff. Generally I can figure out issues with

my

> > system with help from my mate Google... but this one has got me!...
> >
> > I run Ubuntu breezy... and I use Frostwire as a P2P application. After a
> > couple of hours with this application open, the system locks up. The

only

> > option is to hit the power button.
> > I tried Limewire also, but still had the same issue.
> >
> > I have read the Frostwire forums, but it seems very windows based.
> >
> > Can anyone shed some light on this problem. I have a feeling it is a

Java

> > related problem.
> >
> > Thanks in advance... Dale
> >

>
> First things first, if you have other machines that are on the network,

try

> installing openssh-server and when the system "locks up" see if you can

SSH

> into the machine. If it's still responding on the network, then it's not
> locked up, there's just a problem elsewhere. However, if it is locking
> up -- then you have a very different problem. A truly hard lockup cannot
> be caused by an application itself. Some of the potential causes (in no
> particular order):
>
> * Bad memory in the kernel area.
> * CPU overheating.
> * Bug in a system driver or kernel level module.
> * Bad system board.
>
> Now, the last one is a bit farfetched -- but it is possible. However,
> sometimes X11 will appear to lockup -- and the only solution is to use SSH
> to get into the box and kill it. Some binary drivers (such as the nVidia
> drivers) sometimes have problems that can cause X to "run away" and make
> the system appear to be locked up, where the keyboard is locked, the
> display is frozen, and that's it. You're going to have to do some more
> footwork to find out what the problem is, though. See if you can find
> problems in the syslogs and such.
>
> HTH,
> Mike

Thanks mike... Lots of info..

Unfortunately I only have one PC on the network at the moment.. So that
makes that part tricky!

However, when you mention the X11 and nVidia drivers, that rings a bell.. I
used that easyUbuntu and also another which fades my memory right now.. but,
I rekon the issue came about after using this software. The software adds
nVidia drivers and a nVidia tool to the apps menu.

I was going to wait for the full release of Dapper before rebuilding the
system. I figure a fresh start without using easyUbuntu would be a good
start.

Thanks

Dale

[Michael B. Trausch]

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<126nc9na2fh5a34@corp.supernews.com> on Wed May 17 2006 19:19:

>
> Thanks mike... Lots of info..
>
> Unfortunately I only have one PC on the network at the moment.. So that
> makes that part tricky!
>
> However, when you mention the X11 and nVidia drivers, that rings a bell..
> I used that easyUbuntu and also another which fades my memory right now..
> but, I rekon the issue came about after using this software. The software
> adds nVidia drivers and a nVidia tool to the apps menu.
>
> I was going to wait for the full release of Dapper before rebuilding the
> system. I figure a fresh start without using easyUbuntu would be a good
> start.
>
> Thanks
> Dale
>

If you're using the nVidia drivers, do try changing the NvAGP setting for
the driver. My Device section for the driver looks as follows:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic Video Card"
Driver "nvidia"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
Option "UseEdidDpi" "FALSE"
Option "DPI" "72 x 72"
Option "NvAGP" "0"
Option "RandRRotation" "on"
EndSection

That line that sets NvAGP to zero basically tells the nVidia driver to not
use the kernel's AGPGART interface. I haven't have a driver related lockup
since I added that setting.

- Mike

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> Visualeyez This Marketing Solutions wrote in
> <126nc9na2fh5a34@corp.supernews.com> on Wed May 17 2006 19:19:

> >
> > Thanks mike... Lots of info..
> >
> > Unfortunately I only have one PC on the network at the moment.. So that
> > makes that part tricky!
> >
> > However, when you mention the X11 and nVidia drivers, that rings a

bell..

> > I used that easyUbuntu and also another which fades my memory right

now..

> > but, I rekon the issue came about after using this software. The

software

> > adds nVidia drivers and a nVidia tool to the apps menu.
> >
> > I was going to wait for the full release of Dapper before rebuilding the
> > system. I figure a fresh start without using easyUbuntu would be a good
> > start.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Dale
> >

>
> If you're using the nVidia drivers, do try changing the NvAGP setting for
> the driver. My Device section for the driver looks as follows:
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Generic Video Card"
> Driver "nvidia"
> BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
> Option "UseEdidDpi" "FALSE"
> Option "DPI" "72 x 72"
> Option "NvAGP" "0"
> Option "RandRRotation" "on"
> EndSection
>
> That line that sets NvAGP to zero basically tells the nVidia driver to not
> use the kernel's AGPGART interface. I haven't have a driver related

lockup

> since I added that setting.
>
> - Mike
>

Great.. I will try it tonight and report tomorrow..

Cheers.. Dale


P.S. Tech support for windows is no way near as good as that.. GO LINUX!!!