SCSI adapters (note that you would need FW in your computer, not all iBooks have it), but I don't know how expensive they are. A WallStreet would be quite an improvement, speed-wise, over your 3400. Whether it's enough depends on what you want to do, and what your budget is. I'm too late to this discussion to know about that. -- later. johajohn AT indianahoosiers DOT edu Remove the adjective to reply. Indiana is a noun. 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I don't know whether these devices require any drivers or not. I suspect not, but being wrong is something of a hobby of mine. Note that in order to use a PC-card, you must purchase a PowerBook, as the iBooks do not have PC-Card slots.[quote] > Marc[/quote] -- later. johajohn AT indianahoosiers DOT edu Remove the adjective to reply. Indiana is a noun. 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Upgrade PB 3400C? - Mac Portable

Hi there, I still use my 3400c, but would like it to be a bit faster... I guess, there must have been a G3 upgrade at some stage. How fast can you get? Double the speed of the 3400c? What's the name of the processor card I need to look for? Martin -- ---------------- Martin Krarup...

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    Default Upgrade PB 3400C?

    Hi there,

    I still use my 3400c, but would like it to be a bit faster...

    I guess, there must have been a G3 upgrade at some stage. How fast can
    you get? Double the speed of the 3400c?

    What's the name of the processor card I need to look for?

    Martin

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    Default Re: Upgrade PB 3400C?

    In article <260620031027416186%martin.krarupweb.de>,
    Martin Krarup <martin.krarupweb.de> wrote:
    > I still use my 3400c, but would like it to be a bit faster...
    >
    > I guess, there must have been a G3 upgrade at some stage. How fast can
    > you get? Double the speed of the 3400c?
    >
    > What's the name of the processor card I need to look for?
    There were never any processor upgrades for the PB3400.

    Some people overclocked the processor in the 3400 by changing the
    resistors. Not for the faint of heart but a google search should turn up
    instructions. The only other way to upgrade a 3400 is to find a 3500
    logic board. The 3500 (original PowerBook G3) used the same case as the
    3400.
    Pat Janes Guest

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    Martin Krarup wrote:
    [...]
    >
    > Thank you. I don't think we've ever had a PB called "3500" over here in
    > Europe. Is it the same PB G3 that is called "Kanga"?
    >
    Yes.

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    Default Re: Upgrade PB 3400C?

    On 6/26/03 3:27 AM, in article 260620031027416186%martin.krarupweb.de,
    "Martin Krarup" <martin.krarupweb.de> wrote:
    > Hi there,
    >
    > I still use my 3400c, but would like it to be a bit faster...
    >
    > I guess, there must have been a G3 upgrade at some stage. How fast can
    > you get? Double the speed of the 3400c?
    >
    > What's the name of the processor card I need to look for?
    >
    > Martin
    There are no processor upgrades, and first generation Powerbook G3 Kangas
    are rare enough that you'll probably end up having to pay more for a
    replacement motherboard than it's worth.

    My recommendation would be to sell the machine locally and look for a used
    iBook on Ebay.

    Applemac_G4 Guest

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    Default Re: Upgrade PB 3400C?

    In article <BB2197BF.8336%applemac_g4hotmail.com>, Applemac_G4
    <applemac_g4hotmail.com> wrote:
    > On 6/26/03 3:27 AM, in article 260620031027416186%martin.krarupweb.de,
    > "Martin Krarup" <martin.krarupweb.de> wrote:
    >
    > > Hi there,
    > >
    > > I still use my 3400c, but would like it to be a bit faster...
    > >
    > > I guess, there must have been a G3 upgrade at some stage. How fast can
    > > you get? Double the speed of the 3400c?
    > >
    > > What's the name of the processor card I need to look for?
    > >
    > > Martin
    >
    > There are no processor upgrades, and first generation Powerbook G3 Kangas
    > are rare enough that you'll probably end up having to pay more for a
    > replacement motherboard than it's worth.
    >
    > My recommendation would be to sell the machine locally and look for a used
    > iBook on Ebay.
    I thought about that, but then I would have to get rid of my LW
    4/600PS, and my scsi-chain (Scanner, SyQuest, CD-Burner) as well. Or -
    I could try to get a Wallstreet, but how much faster would I get by
    doing that?

    Martin

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    Default Re: Upgrade PB 3400C?

    In article <270620031524402256%martin.krarupweb.de>,
    Martin Krarup <martin.krarupweb.de> wrote:
    > In article <BB2197BF.8336%applemac_g4hotmail.com>, Applemac_G4
    > <applemac_g4hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > > On 6/26/03 3:27 AM, in article 260620031027416186%martin.krarupweb.de,
    > > "Martin Krarup" <martin.krarupweb.de> wrote:
    >
    [request for proc upgrades for 3400 is returned with advice to sell and
    buy an iBook]
    > I thought about that, but then I would have to get rid of my LW
    > 4/600PS, and my scsi-chain (Scanner, SyQuest, CD-Burner) as well. Or -
    > I could try to get a Wallstreet, but how much faster would I get by
    > doing that?
    Even if you got a computer without the Localtalk port, you wouldn't
    necessarily have to get rid of the printer. One option would be to use a
    Localtalk converter to turn it into an ethernet printer (Asante makes
    one in their FriendlyNet line, sells for around 50USD, Farallon used to
    make one called the iPrint, but I don't know if it's still around). Or,
    and it amounts to the same thing, use a second computer with appropriate
    ports and the LocalTalk Bridge extension to share the printer across a
    network. Granted, this isn't nearly so useful if you don't have a
    network, but it can be done, and makes sense for some people.

    SCSI devices may be adapted similarly with FW-->SCSI adapters (note that
    you would need FW in your computer, not all iBooks have it), but I don't
    know how expensive they are.

    A WallStreet would be quite an improvement, speed-wise, over your 3400.
    Whether it's enough depends on what you want to do, and what your budget
    is. I'm too late to this discussion to know about that.

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    Default Re: Upgrade PB 3400C?

    In article <read_the_sig-025801.10014427062003news.indiana.edu>,
    John Johnson <read_the_sigthe_bottom.edu> wrote:
    > SCSI devices may be adapted similarly with FW-->SCSI adapters (note that
    > you would need FW in your computer, not all iBooks have it), but I don't
    > know how expensive they are.
    At least mine (Adaptec SlimSCSI 1480) does not work in OS X, because
    they never got around to fix the driver.

    Marc

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    Default Re: Upgrade PB 3400C?

    On 6/27/03 8:24 AM, in article 270620031524402256%martin.krarupweb.de,
    "Martin Krarup" <martin.krarupweb.de> wrote:
    > I thought about that, but then I would have to get rid of my LW
    > 4/600PS, and my scsi-chain (Scanner, SyQuest, CD-Burner) as well. Or -
    > I could try to get a Wallstreet, but how much faster would I get by
    > doing that?
    >
    > Martin
    Hmm...

    Ok, how about plan B: A Powerbook G3/333 or 400 Lombard... All your SCSI
    stuff and your serial printer should work with one of those machines.

    Applemac_G4 Guest

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    Default Re: Upgrade PB 3400C?

    In article <BB21EDB9.8369%applemac_g4hotmail.com>, Applemac_G4
    <applemac_g4hotmail.com> wrote:
    > On 6/27/03 8:24 AM, in article 270620031524402256%martin.krarupweb.de,
    > "Martin Krarup" <martin.krarupweb.de> wrote:
    >
    > > I thought about that, but then I would have to get rid of my LW
    > > 4/600PS, and my scsi-chain (Scanner, SyQuest, CD-Burner) as well. Or -
    > > I could try to get a Wallstreet, but how much faster would I get by
    > > doing that?
    > >
    > > Martin
    >
    > Hmm...
    >
    > Ok, how about plan B: A Powerbook G3/333 or 400 Lombard... All your SCSI
    > stuff and your serial printer should work with one of those machines.
    Are you sure about the Lombard??? I thought it didn't have SCSI and
    serial port.

    Martin

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    Default Re: Upgrade PB 3400C?

    In article <marc.heusser-A84461.17480627062003news.bluewin.ch>,
    Marc Heusser <marc.heusserCHEERSheusser.comMERCIALSPAMMERS.inv alid>
    wrote:
    > In article <read_the_sig-025801.10014427062003news.indiana.edu>,
    > John Johnson <read_the_sigthe_bottom.edu> wrote:
    >
    > > SCSI devices may be adapted similarly with FW-->SCSI adapters (note that
    > > you would need FW in your computer, not all iBooks have it), but I don't
    > > know how expensive they are.
    >
    > At least mine (Adaptec SlimSCSI 1480) does not work in OS X, because
    > they never got around to fix the driver.
    >
    OK, I had forgotten about SCSI PC-cards (or CardBus, I must admit that I
    don't pay much attention to these things), and was referring to a device
    that plugs into a FireWire port and that you then plug your SCSI devices
    into. I don't know whether these devices require any drivers or not. I
    suspect not, but being wrong is something of a hobby of mine. <g>

    Note that in order to use a PC-card, you must purchase a PowerBook, as
    the iBooks do not have PC-Card slots.
    > Marc
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    The 1999 version of the Lombard - the Powerbook G3 "Bronze Keyboard" sold in
    G3/333 and G3/400 configurations with a 66 mhz system bus had (for sure)
    SCSI, and I'm pretty sure that they had serial as well, because I think
    serial and scsi disappeared at the same time.

    The 2000 version of the Powerbook G3, sold in G3/400 and G3/500
    configurations with a 100mhz system bus codenamed "Pismo" got rid of SCSI
    and replaced it with Firewire.

    For more information on the various Powerbook models and what they had,
    check out [url]http://www.apple-history.com[/url]

    Applemac_G4 Guest

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    Default Re: Upgrade PB 3400C?

    In article <BB2231BB.8388%applemac_g4hotmail.com>,
    Applemac_G4 <applemac_g4hotmail.com> wrote:
    > The 1999 version of the Lombard - the Powerbook G3 "Bronze Keyboard" sold in
    > G3/333 and G3/400 configurations with a 66 mhz system bus had (for sure)
    > SCSI, and I'm pretty sure that they had serial as well, because I think
    > serial and scsi disappeared at the same time.
    No, no, it's even better than that:

    Wallstreet (all versions) had ADB and SCSI
    Lombard had USB and SCSI
    Pismo had USB and FW
    > The 2000 version of the Powerbook G3, sold in G3/400 and G3/500
    > configurations with a 100mhz system bus codenamed "Pismo" got rid of SCSI
    > and replaced it with Firewire.
    >
    > For more information on the various Powerbook models and what they had,
    > check out [url]http://www.apple-history.com[/url]
    >
    You really have to check the specs carefully on your PowerBook models,
    as they changed quite a bit (even after the TiBook was released: three
    different variants, some pretty big differences). As we discovered on
    another thread, the same goes for the iBooks.

    --
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