Uploading Popup Menu

[labrune webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Hello everyone,

I'm needing some major help. I have created a popup menu. When I view it in Frontpage and offline in IE it all works great!

I uploaded all the files to my webhost...........and all the buttons are missing just leaving the red x indicating the graphics are not there. I have reuploaded about 2 times and have uploaded every single file I possible can.

can someone take a look at it?

[url]http://www.soulgrubshindig.com/retreatinfo/2004outline/retreatinfo1.htm[/url]

I have created navbars before using fireworks however this is my first time to us popup menus.

any help would be greatly appreciated
thanks in advance!

Leigh Ann

[Sam Poikail]

You might have better luck if you removed the mixed case naming of files
(change it to all lower case). Also consider using underscores instead of
dashes (to be safe).

Change: "Oct-1_r1_c17_f4.gif" to "oct_1_r1_c17_f4.gif"

Some host servers have problems serving mixed case file names and it's best
to stick to alphas, numerics, and underscores for names.

Cheers,
Sam

"labrune" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm needing some major help. I have created a popup menu. When I view it

in Frontpage and offline in IE it all works great!

>
> I uploaded all the files to my webhost...........and all the buttons are

missing just leaving the red x indicating the graphics are not there. I
have reuploaded about 2 times and have uploaded every single file I possible
can.

>
> can someone take a look at it?
>
> [url]http://www.soulgrubshindig.com/retreatinfo/2004outline/retreatinfo1.htm[/url]
>
> I have created navbars before using fireworks however this is my first

time to us popup menus.

>
> any help would be greatly appreciated
> thanks in advance!
>
> Leigh Ann
>
>

[Murray *TMM*]

Leigh Ann:

One of the several serious problems with the FW pop-up menus is that the
links to images and to linked files are a) written with document relativity
(i.e., describe the path from the current document to the linked file), and
b) embedded in javascript. When such a link is embedded in javascript (this
means that it is encoded in a javascript function declaration in the head of
the document, not in ordinary HTML in the body of the page), DW's otherwise
excellent link management system cannot find and/or manage that link. The
result of this breakdown of DW's link management is that if you place the
menus on a page which is then saved in some other folder location than the
one where the menus were originally built, *all* the links in the menus will
be broken.

Since -

1. The pop-ups seem to appeal to people who are relatively new to page
development (those who are not new don't use it as a rule), and
2. The problems that I describe above (and other problems) require that you
manually hack javascript (or worse) to fix, and
3. The people mentioned in #1 above are the ones that are least inclined to
do #2 above

Therefore, I can never, in conscience, recommend the use of this feature of
FW (or DW).

How deeply committed are you to these menus? There are much better (and
easier) alternatives which have none of the disadvantages of these pop-ups.

Nevertheless, if you are determined to hack away and fix this problem, then
you would need to change all image references in the javascript embedded in
the head of the document (this function - function mmLoadMenus() ) from
document relative -

mm_menu_0928215727_0.bgImageUp="images/mmmenu4_227x18_up.gif";

to root relative -

mm_menu_0928215727_0.bgImageUp="/images/mmmenu4_227x18_up.gif";

(assuming that your images folder is in the root of the site)

I would also tell you to lose the frames on this site, but that can come
later!

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"labrune" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm needing some major help. I have created a popup menu. When I view it

in Frontpage and offline in IE it all works great!

>
> I uploaded all the files to my webhost...........and all the buttons are

missing just leaving the red x indicating the graphics are not there. I
have reuploaded about 2 times and have uploaded every single file I possible
can.

>
> can someone take a look at it?
>
> [url]http://www.soulgrubshindig.com/retreatinfo/2004outline/retreatinfo1.htm[/url]
>
> I have created navbars before using fireworks however this is my first

time to us popup menus.

>
> any help would be greatly appreciated
> thanks in advance!
>
> Leigh Ann
>
>

[labrune webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Thanks for tips!!!

I shall do that!!!

but now I have run into another problem........... I did a different menu with submenus. And if i go to preview just the navbar in IE it works fine....but when I go to preview it in Frontpage after I have inserted it I get script errors. I've moved the scripts into the header tag where they need to go but I'm not quite sure on the scripts in the body tag.

i do not have web page posted yet........just wondering if i could get some clues on that. What the trick is with getting the html codes correct.

Thanks once again!
Leigh Ann

[Murray *TMM*]

Leigh:

So - you are using FW and FP and not DW?

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"labrune" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for tips!!!
>
> I shall do that!!!
>
> but now I have run into another problem........... I did a different menu

with submenus. And if i go to preview just the navbar in IE it works
fine....but when I go to preview it in Frontpage after I have inserted it I
get script errors. I've moved the scripts into the header tag where they
need to go but I'm not quite sure on the scripts in the body tag.

>
> i do not have web page posted yet........just wondering if i could get

some clues on that. What the trick is with getting the html codes correct.

>
> Thanks once again!
> Leigh Ann
>
>

[labrune webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Yes, that is correct. I'm using FW & FP. No dreamweaver...........I have the software...........but FP appeals to me more.

If the menus are so *horrible* why are they an option then?

Do you have other suggestions if one is not to use menus? The majority of the websites I have seen/visited use popup menus.

I just thought to go to popup menus since I've seen so many websites going to that now.

any advice would be appreciated since yes you guessed it.............I'm a newbie......... and i'm just trying to incorporate new items into my webpages that i've seen on other pages.

Thank you for all the tips/tricks!
Leigh Ann

[Murray *TMM*]

labrune:

> If the menus are so *horrible* why are they an option then?

Beats me - they should either be fixed (which would be possible) or removed,
in my opinion. But I guess you'd have to ask that question of Macromedia.

> Do you have other suggestions if one is not to use menus? The majority of

the websites I have seen/visited use popup menus.

Perhaps they use *some* pop-ups, but I doubt that they use these pop-ups.
Menus like this are quite common and relatively easy to do from scratch.
I'm not sure how easy they would be to create in FP, but I suspect that it
would not be too difficult if you are familiar with FP and working with
layers.

Here are several Dreamweaver oriented tutorials for how to build such menus
(that suffer from none of the serious problems of the FW menus).

[url]http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/menuing/mcloser/index.htm[/url]

or

[url]http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/auto_hide/index.htm[/url]

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"labrune" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, that is correct. I'm using FW & FP. No dreamweaver...........I have

the software...........but FP appeals to me more.

>
> If the menus are so *horrible* why are they an option then?
>
> Do you have other suggestions if one is not to use menus? The majority of

the websites I have seen/visited use popup menus.

>
> I just thought to go to popup menus since I've seen so many websites going

to that now.

>
> any advice would be appreciated since yes you guessed it.............I'm a

newbie......... and i'm just trying to incorporate new items into my
webpages that i've seen on other pages.

>
> Thank you for all the tips/tricks!
> Leigh Ann
>
>

[labrune webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Murray:

thanks so much for the input!

i will check out the links you have provided and see what I can do in dreamweaver.

i guess if i have any questions, i'll just post back and get more input..........

once again thank you very much!

Leigh Ann

PS.........i had no idea FW handled menus badly...........honestly i didn't

[Murray *TMM*]

Leigh Ann:

You're very welcome! Post back with any questions!

> PS.........i had no idea FW handled menus badly...........honestly i

didn't

How would you know unless someone told you? 8)

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"labrune" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Murray:
>
> thanks so much for the input!
>
> i will check out the links you have provided and see what I can do in

dreamweaver.

>
> i guess if i have any questions, i'll just post back and get more

input..........

>
> once again thank you very much!
>
> Leigh Ann
>
> PS.........i had no idea FW handled menus badly...........honestly i

didn't

>
>