/dev/pts/1 > Jul 8 02:42:06 lorenzo /sbin/hotplug: arguments (net) env (OLDPWD=/ > PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin ACTION=register PWD=/etc/hotplug > SHLVL=1 HOME=/ INTERFACE=ppp0 DEBUG=yes _=/usr/bin/env) > Jul 8 02:42:06 lorenzo /sbin/hotplug: invoke /etc/hotplug/net.agent () > Jul 8 02:42:06 lorenzo /etc/hotplug/net.agent: assuming ppp0 is already > up > Jul 8 02:42:37 lorenzo pppd[12963]: Connection terminated. > Jul 8 02:42:37 lorenzo pppd[12963]: Exit. > Jul 8 02:42:37 lorenzo /sbin/hotplug: arguments (net) env (OLDPWD=/ > PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin ACTION=unregister PWD=/etc/hotplug > SHLVL=1 HOME=/ INTERFACE=ppp0 DEBUG=yes _=/usr/bin/env) > Jul 8 02:42:37 lorenzo /sbin/hotplug: invoke /etc/hotplug/net.agent () > > /var/log/syslog: > Jul 8 02:42:37 lorenzo pppd[12963]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests > Jul 8 02:42:37 lorenzo pppoa[12965]: read (AsyncReadFromPPP): > Input/output error[/quote] You have hotplug compiled in. What does dmesg report? Is it being recognised correctly. I assume so, since the lighs blink when you start it up./ Hmm, just a reality check: From what I can see on the last line, your ISP does PPPoA? If not, and they do PPPOE, then that may be the problem. Probably posting the settings from the Windows side (it does work with windows?) will allow some correlation with the messages. Regards, WS -- Change to leews to mail [allowsmilie] => 1 [showsignature] => 0 [ipaddress] => [iconid] => 0 [visible] => 1 [attach] => 0 [infraction] => 0 [reportthreadid] => 0 [isusenetpost] => 1 [msgid] => [ref] => [htmlstate] => on_nl2br [postusername] => Lee Wei Shun [ip] => see.sig@pacific [isdeleted] => 0 [usergroupid] => [membergroupids] => [displaygroupid] => [password] => [passworddate] => [email] => [styleid] => [parentemail] => [homepage] => [icq] => [aim] => [yahoo] => [msn] => [skype] => [showvbcode] => [showbirthday] => [usertitle] => [customtitle] => [joindate] => [daysprune] => [lastvisit] => [lastactivity] => [lastpost] => [lastpostid] => [posts] => [reputation] => [reputationlevelid] => [timezoneoffset] => [pmpopup] => [avatarid] => [avatarrevision] => [profilepicrevision] => [sigpicrevision] => [options] => [akvbghsfs_optionsfield] => [birthday] => [birthday_search] => [maxposts] => [startofweek] => [referrerid] => [languageid] => [emailstamp] => [threadedmode] => [autosubscribe] => [pmtotal] => [pmunread] => [salt] => [ipoints] => [infractions] => [warnings] => [infractiongroupids] => [infractiongroupid] => [adminoptions] => [profilevisits] => [friendcount] => [friendreqcount] => [vmunreadcount] => [vmmoderatedcount] => [socgroupinvitecount] => [socgroupreqcount] => [pcunreadcount] => [pcmoderatedcount] => [gmmoderatedcount] => [assetposthash] => [fbuserid] => [fbjoindate] => [fbname] => [logintype] => [fbaccesstoken] => [newrepcount] => [vbseo_likes_in] => [vbseo_likes_out] => [vbseo_likes_unread] => [temp] => [field1] => [field2] => [field3] => [field4] => [field5] => [subfolders] => [pmfolders] => [buddylist] => [ignorelist] => [signature] => [searchprefs] => [rank] => [icontitle] => [iconpath] => [avatarpath] => [hascustomavatar] => 0 [avatardateline] => [avwidth] => [avheight] => [edit_userid] => [edit_username] => [edit_dateline] => [edit_reason] => [hashistory] => [pagetext_html] => [hasimages] => [signatureparsed] => [sighasimages] => [sigpic] => [sigpicdateline] => [sigpicwidth] => [sigpicheight] => [postcount] => 9 [islastshown] => [isfirstshown] => [attachments] => [allattachments] => ) --> usb adsl doesn't connect - Linux Setup, Configuration & Administration

usb adsl doesn't connect - Linux Setup, Configuration & Administration

Hi did someone succed connecting with us robotics 9000 adsl usb modem? I'm trying by months with the driver packet downloaded on us robotics web site, but nothing happens, either the 2 lights are on (usb and adsl) and when i try to connect the adsl light blinks, so' there must be activity between my pc and the ISP, but the connection doesn't start. I've got a slackware 9.0 with kernel 2.4.20 and pppd 2.4.2 what should i do? TNX U ALL __________________________________________________ ________________ Bacco ICQ#: 96630317 Current ICQ status: + More ways to contact me __________________________________________________ ________________...

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    Default usb adsl doesn't connect

    Hi
    did someone succed connecting with us robotics 9000 adsl usb modem? I'm
    trying by months with the driver packet downloaded on us robotics web site,
    but nothing happens, either the 2 lights are on (usb and adsl) and when i
    try to connect the adsl light blinks, so' there must be activity between my
    pc and the ISP, but the connection doesn't start.
    I've got a slackware 9.0 with kernel 2.4.20 and pppd 2.4.2
    what should i do?
    TNX U ALL

    __________________________________________________ ________________ Bacco
    ICQ#: 96630317 Current ICQ status: + More ways to contact me
    __________________________________________________ ________________


    Grappino Guest

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    "Grappino" <blindercancellaqui.inwind.it> wrote in message news:<vMmNa.27619$HU3.814245news2.tin.it>...
    > Hi
    > did someone succed connecting with us robotics 9000 adsl usb modem? I'm
    > trying by months with the driver packet downloaded on us robotics web site,
    > but nothing happens, either the 2 lights are on (usb and adsl) and when i
    > try to connect the adsl light blinks, so' there must be activity between my
    > pc and the ISP, but the connection doesn't start.
    > I've got a slackware 9.0 with kernel 2.4.20 and pppd 2.4.2
    > what should i do?
    > TNX U ALL
    >
    > __________________________________________________ ________________ Bacco
    > ICQ#: 96630317 Current ICQ status: + More ways to contact me
    > __________________________________________________ ________________
    Don't know, I'm a newbie too, but from what I can gather Linux is crap
    for hardware compatability.
    Mark K.
    MarkK Guest

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    On 6 Jul 2003 13:32:28 -0700, [email]markkzoomhotmail.com[/email] (MarkK) wrote:

    **************** CUT *************
    >
    >Don't know, I'm a newbie too, but from what I can gather Linux is crap
    >for hardware compatability.
    >Mark K.
    Or maybe some hardware is crap for Linux compatibility? I guess it
    depends on your world view.


    Rich Piotrowski

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    Rich Piotrowski Guest

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    Grappino wrote:
    > Hi
    > did someone succed connecting with us robotics 9000 adsl usb modem? I'm
    > trying by months with the driver packet downloaded on us robotics web
    > site, but nothing happens, either the 2 lights are on (usb and adsl) and
    > when i try to connect the adsl light blinks, so' there must be activity
    > between my pc and the ISP, but the connection doesn't start.
    > I've got a slackware 9.0 with kernel 2.4.20 and pppd 2.4.2
    > what should i do?
    > TNX U ALL
    >
    Do post the output from the /var/log/mess ages file so that we can t
    ake a look.

    Regards,
    WS

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    The beginning of the
    end
    Lee Wei Shun Guest

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    DUDE, READ BEFORE ANSWER
    I wrote:
    "Hi
    did someone succed connecting with us robotics 9000 adsl usb modem? I'm
    trying by months with the driver packet downloaded on us robotics web site,
    but nothing happens,....[cut]"
    Repeating: "...I'm trying by months with the driver packet downloaded on us
    robotics web site, but nothing happens..."
    "DOWNLOADED ON US ROBOTICS WEB SITE"
    Understood?
    "Xyerp" <Xyerphotmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:3d7bc779.0307080537.5bb459d1posting.google.c om...
    > [snip]
    >
    [url]http://www.usr.com/support/9000/9000-linux-ug/Installing%20the%20modem.html#[/url]
    Compile
    >
    > Dude, you bought a US Robotics modem - try US Robotics support!

    Grappino Guest

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    On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:27:22 +0000, Grappino wrote:
    >> Dude, you bought a US Robotics modem - try US Robotics support!
    > DUDE, READ BEFORE ANSWER
    > I wrote:
    > "Hi
    > did someone succed connecting with us robotics 9000 adsl usb modem? I'm
    > trying by months with the driver packet downloaded on us robotics web site,
    > but nothing happens,....[cut]"
    > Repeating: "...I'm trying by months with the driver packet downloaded on us
    > robotics web site, but nothing happens..."
    > "DOWNLOADED ON US ROBOTICS WEB SITE"
    > Understood?
    "US Robotics support" does not mean "download something from their
    web site". It means "contact their technical support department and
    request assistance". Do /you/ understand now?

    Ed Murphy Guest

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    I'm an engineer in telecommunication
    Cure your offensive presumption.
    ....dude.
    "Xyerp" <Xyerphotmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:3d7bc779.0307090117.6864477posting.google.co m...
    > "Grappino" <blindercancellaqui.inwind.it> wrote in message
    news:<_GGOa.3599$qa5.84208news2.tin.it>...
    > > DUDE, READ BEFORE ANSWER
    > [snip]
    >
    > Dude, you have your answer. Thats all there is. If US robotics won't
    > speak to you, its probably because you have an attitude problem. Or
    > are just plain thick.

    Grappino Guest

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    They say they don't give assistance about linux.
    i also wrote to the programmers of the packet.
    no answer.
    It's unbelievable that there's so much people thinking that who's got
    problems under linux is surely a stupid, or is not able to contact the
    assistance and so on.
    May be you talk only with stupid people?
    Or do you think to be much more intelligent than anyone else?
    I'm in engineer, in telecommunications, my problem is not to be unable to
    understand how a pc works or how to ask for an help, i'm not looking for an
    idiot answer like yours, just looking for someone who's got the some problem
    and wants to answer to me, someone able to understand the problem.
    I'm not looking for lessons about how to live in this world.
    IF YOU HAVEN'T GOT A TECHNICAL ANSWER: ***DON' T ANSWER***
    "Ed Murphy" <emurphy42socal.rr.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:pan.2003.07.09.09.52.23.832541socal.rr.com.. .
    > On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:27:22 +0000, Grappino wrote:
    >
    > >> Dude, you bought a US Robotics modem - try US Robotics support!
    >
    > > DUDE, READ BEFORE ANSWER
    > > I wrote:
    > > "Hi
    > > did someone succed connecting with us robotics 9000 adsl usb modem? I'm
    > > trying by months with the driver packet downloaded on us robotics web
    site,
    > > but nothing happens,....[cut]"
    > > Repeating: "...I'm trying by months with the driver packet downloaded on
    us
    > > robotics web site, but nothing happens..."
    > > "DOWNLOADED ON US ROBOTICS WEB SITE"
    > > Understood?
    >
    > "US Robotics support" does not mean "download something from their
    > web site". It means "contact their technical support department and
    > request assistance". Do /you/ understand now?
    >

    Grappino Guest

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    Grappino wrote:
    > "Lee Wei Shun" <see.sigpacific.net.sg> ha scritto nel messaggio
    > news:beb7o7$j8a$1mawar.singnet.com.sg...
    >> Grappino wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> Do post the output from the /var/log/messages file so that we can
    >> take a look.
    >>
    >> Regards,
    >> WS
    >>
    > That's what I get on the log files:
    > /var/log/messages:
    > Jul 8 02:42:06 lorenzo pppd[12963]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0
    > Jul 8 02:42:06 lorenzo pppd[12963]: Using interface ppp0
    > Jul 8 02:42:06 lorenzo pppd[12963]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/1
    > Jul 8 02:42:06 lorenzo /sbin/hotplug: arguments (net) env (OLDPWD=/
    > PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin ACTION=register PWD=/etc/hotplug
    > SHLVL=1 HOME=/ INTERFACE=ppp0 DEBUG=yes _=/usr/bin/env)
    > Jul 8 02:42:06 lorenzo /sbin/hotplug: invoke /etc/hotplug/net.agent ()
    > Jul 8 02:42:06 lorenzo /etc/hotplug/net.agent: assuming ppp0 is already
    > up
    > Jul 8 02:42:37 lorenzo pppd[12963]: Connection terminated.
    > Jul 8 02:42:37 lorenzo pppd[12963]: Exit.
    > Jul 8 02:42:37 lorenzo /sbin/hotplug: arguments (net) env (OLDPWD=/
    > PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin ACTION=unregister PWD=/etc/hotplug
    > SHLVL=1 HOME=/ INTERFACE=ppp0 DEBUG=yes _=/usr/bin/env)
    > Jul 8 02:42:37 lorenzo /sbin/hotplug: invoke /etc/hotplug/net.agent ()
    >
    > /var/log/syslog:
    > Jul 8 02:42:37 lorenzo pppd[12963]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
    > Jul 8 02:42:37 lorenzo pppoa[12965]: read (AsyncReadFromPPP):
    > Input/output error
    You have hotplug compiled in. What does dmesg report? Is it being recognised
    correctly. I assume so, since the lighs blink when you start it up./

    Hmm, just a reality check:

    From what I can see on the last line, your ISP does PPPoA? If not, and they
    do PPPOE, then that may be the problem.

    Probably posting the settings from the Windows side (it does work with
    windows?) will allow some correlation with the messages.

    Regards,
    WS

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    Change to leews to mail

    Lee Wei Shun Guest

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    On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 21:58:51 +0000, Grappino wrote:
    > Hi
    > did someone succed connecting with us robotics 9000 adsl usb modem? I'm
    > trying by months with the driver packet downloaded on us robotics web
    > site, but nothing happens, either the 2 lights are on (usb and adsl) and
    > when i try to connect the adsl light blinks, so' there must be activity
    > between my pc and the ISP, but the connection doesn't start. I've got a
    > slackware 9.0 with kernel 2.4.20 and pppd 2.4.2 what should i do?
    > TNX U ALL
    >
    > __________________________________________________ ________________ Bacco
    > ICQ#: 96630317 Current ICQ status: + More ways to contact me
    > __________________________________________________ ________________
    If you've spent months trying to get the thing to work you might want to
    consider dumping it and buying a new modem with an ethernet connection.

    B. Joshua Rosen Guest

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    MarkK wrote:
    > Fredderic <freddericiprimus.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:<slrnbgobae.v6.zaphodmagentus.localnet>...
    >> >>Don't know, I'm a newbie too, but from what I can gather Linux is
    >> >>crap for hardware compatability.
    >> > Or maybe some hardware is crap for Linux compatibility? I guess it
    >> > depends on your world view.
    >>
    >> You've got to love statements like "Linux is crap for hardware
    >> compatibility". How often do you need to get drivers for Windows, or
    >> at the very least, install them off CD-ROM's or floppy disks that came
    >> with
    >> the hardware? Some would say almost never, but others (and indeed
    >> myself),
    >> would say almost always. All depends on your choice of hardware.
    >
    > Fact remains that half my gear is not supported by linux.
    In other words: You were stupdi enough not to check before buying.
    Like you have to do with Windows also, since XP does not support all
    hardware
    > Another fact is that most hardware does not come with Linux drivers.
    >
    And not needed, you forgot to mention
    >
    >>
    >> And then, have you checked who actually wrote the drivers that came on
    >> your Windows disks? A lot of the Windows drivers running on my system,
    >> are actually written by the companies that provide the hardware, not by
    >> Microsoft.
    >>
    >> So how can you say that Windows is good for hardware compatibility,
    >> just because companies provide Windows with drivers for their new
    >> hardware.
    >
    > Whatever. The stuff still can't be used with Linux.
    >
    Really? On my machine there is not a single piece of hardware which is
    unsupported. And the network-wide available scanner is nothing to sneeze
    about. The network-wide available CD-burner (also available for the lowly
    wintendo machines) isn't too bad either. Needless to say, windows has
    nothing comparable
    >> Windows itself isn't "good for hardware compatibility", it's just
    >> common
    >> with the hardware manufacturors. And how about many of the new
    >> "Windows-only printers, which don't support NT through XP, because of
    >> security issues re: parallel port access. Is that good hardware
    >> compatibility?
    >
    > Never heard of anyone having that problem.
    > All my stuff works with windows but half of it does not work with
    > Linux.
    >
    And that is the fault of what idiot? The one who bought such garbage in
    the first place perhaps? That would be you
    >>
    >> Speaking of which, the main reason a lot of hardware isn't supported on
    >> Linux, is simply because the manufacturer's won't support it.
    >
    > Exactly! I WANT to change to Linux, but I can't. I can't even get on
    > the net with it.
    >
    Then you are an dimwitted moron
    >> How can
    >> Linux support a piece of software which neither releases a driver, nor
    >> releases the specs from which to write one. This list includes: Most
    >> modern video cards (many of which Linux DOES support), cheap printers
    >> (esp. ones wich try to prevent you from refilling ink cartridges),
    >> hybrid modems (software and hardware modems are both supported).
    >>
    >> My point again: Windows doesn't support the hardware, the hardware
    >> supports Windows. The solution? Encourage hardware manufacturers to
    >> support more hardware, or release specs for their unsupported hardware,
    >> if not to the OpenSource community, then to selected Linux wizards.
    >
    > Right! In another thread I suggested that anyone and everyone pesters
    > the manufacturers for Linux drivers on principle, like I did, instead
    > of just keeping stumm and buying something else.
    > Mark K.
    I would *much* more prefer *not* to have manufacturer supplied drivers,
    but instead manufacturer supplied specs for the hardware. That way is
    much more preferrable.

    Peter
    --
    Warning: 10 days have passed since your last Windows reinstall.

    Peter Köhlmann Guest

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    On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 13:20:13 +0000, Grappino wrote:
    [in response to "contact US Robotics support"]
    > They say they don't give assistance about linux.
    > i also wrote to the programmers of the packet.
    > no answer.
    Okay, that's a legitimate complaint. "I tried that and it didn't
    work." But, until you said so, we didn't know that you had tried.
    > It's unbelievable that there's so much people thinking that who's got
    > problems under linux is surely a stupid, or is not able to contact the
    > assistance and so on.
    > May be you talk only with stupid people?
    I'm a professional computer consultant, and so I have encountered an
    astoundingly large number of people who - while not generally stupid -
    seem to switch off their common sense when it comes to computers, based
    on the gut feeling that they couldn't possibly figure anything out
    anyway, and therefore should not waste their time bothering to try. (I
    know how they feel, too; I do pretty much the same thing when it comes
    to cooking, for instance.)

    Nothing personal, but we /have/ to ask the seemingly-stupid questions
    first. Depressingly often, one of those questions turns out to be the
    very thing that solves the problem.
    > I'm in engineer, in telecommunications, my problem is not to be unable to
    > understand how a pc works or how to ask for an help,
    Actually, you do have a problem with how to ask for help. You need to
    /show/ how much knowledge you already have. Our assistance will generally
    start wherever your demonstrated knowledge stops.

    Ed Murphy Guest

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    You're right, but i'd want to make it work mainly for two reasons, the first
    is that because i choosed (unfortunately) this modem to share it with the
    notebook, so that i can plug it with one or the other in a quid, the second
    is that if UsRobotics made a packet to make it work...well: it must work.
    There must be a way to make it work under linux, i don't like to surrender,
    knowing there's a way... ;-)

    "B. Joshua Rosen" <bjrosenpolybus.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:pan.2003.07.09.13.53.19.110081polybus.com...
    > On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 21:58:51 +0000, Grappino wrote:
    >
    > > Hi
    > > did someone succed connecting with us robotics 9000 adsl usb modem? I'm
    > > trying by months with the driver packet downloaded on us robotics web
    > > site, but nothing happens, either the 2 lights are on (usb and adsl) and
    > > when i try to connect the adsl light blinks, so' there must be activity
    > > between my pc and the ISP, but the connection doesn't start. I've got a
    > > slackware 9.0 with kernel 2.4.20 and pppd 2.4.2 what should i do?
    > > TNX U ALL
    > >
    > > __________________________________________________ ________________ Bacco
    > > ICQ#: 96630317 Current ICQ status: + More ways to contact me
    > > __________________________________________________ ________________
    >
    > If you've spent months trying to get the thing to work you might want to
    > consider dumping it and buying a new modem with an ethernet connection.
    >

    Grappino Guest

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    On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:13:33 +0000, Grappino wrote:
    >> Okay, that's a legitimate complaint. "I tried that and it didn't
    >> work." But, until you said so, we didn't know that you had tried.
    >
    > Ok, but i prefered to avoid a useless long mail, jumping at all the
    > roads i tried in these months (also because my english is very poor,
    > the more i write, the more I arise the probability to be wrong).
    Not useless at all; it saves us the trouble of recommending things
    that you've already done. (Unless you did them wrong, somehow, in
    which case we can point that out.) And even if your English is poor,
    we still get some idea of what has gone before.
    >> Nothing personal, but we /have/ to ask the seemingly-stupid questions
    >> first. Depressingly often, one of those questions turns out to be the
    >> very thing that solves the problem.
    >
    > Sure, nothing personal ;-) but if someone tells me "my car doesn't
    > start" my first answer is not "turn on the key".
    It's actually pretty close: "When you turn on the key, exactly what
    happens (or doesn't happen)?"

    Now imagine that, instead of working with the car directly, the repairman
    is only allowed to give instructions over the phone to the owner of the
    car, who lives 50 miles away. And who only learned how to *drive* the car
    two months ago, never mind repair it. Oh, and sometimes the car starts
    but it makes a funny noise, and you must fix it *without turning it off*.

    Ed Murphy Guest

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    > Now imagine that, instead of working with the car directly, the repairman
    > is only allowed to give instructions over the phone to the owner of the
    > car, who lives 50 miles away. And who only learned how to *drive* the car
    > two months ago, never mind repair it. Oh, and sometimes the car starts
    > but it makes a funny noise, and you must fix it *without turning it off*.
    >
    Platone.


    Grappino Guest

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    MarkK wrote:
    > but since the majority of potential new users
    > with adsl can't even get on the net with the modems they have, it'll
    > have to wait until I upgrade my gear in a few years.
    Ah, people can't use the modem they have to use ADSL, they need an ADSL
    modem, maybe that's why they are having so many problems.
    >
    > I have spent hours trawling the net for adsl modems supported by
    > Suse, and then checking the NG's to see the problems with the ones
    > which ARE allegedly supported. Looks like I'll have to buy a router
    > instead, and even that could be aggro.
    >
    Any ADSL modem that connects to the PC with a Cat5 cable is supported.
    Install Roaoring Penguin PPPOE and away you go.
    > Here's something that IS advertised: Linux is crap for new users.
    >
    So who installs linux then? If only experienced users install it how do
    they get the experience without installing it as a new user?

    --
    Regards,
    Harry Phillips
    --- Failure is not an option,
    it comes bundled with your Microsoft product.

    Harry Phillips Guest

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    Harry Phillips <hhgdfnowhere> wrote in message news:<aq4du-pm2.ln1home.tux.invalid>...
    > MarkK wrote:
    > > but since the majority of potential new users
    > > with adsl can't even get on the net with the modems they have, it'll
    > > have to wait until I upgrade my gear in a few years.
    >
    > Ah, people can't use the modem they have to use ADSL, they need an ADSL
    > modem, maybe that's why they are having so many problems.
    Now YOU are being dense, I said new users WITH adsl, that means with
    adsl modems, nearly all of which don't work with Linux.
    >
    > >
    > > I have spent hours trawling the net for adsl modems supported by
    > > Suse, and then checking the NG's to see the problems with the ones
    > > which ARE allegedly supported. Looks like I'll have to buy a router
    > > instead, and even that could be aggro.
    > >
    >
    > Any ADSL modem that connects to the PC with a Cat5 cable is supported.
    > Install Roaoring Penguin PPPOE and away you go.
    My ISP prefers PPPOA.
    >
    > > Here's something that IS advertised: Linux is crap for new users.
    > >
    >
    > So who installs linux then?
    Quite a few newbies, who then discover that much of their hardware
    isn't supported and give up on Linux altogether.
    > If only experienced users install it how do
    > they get the experience without installing it as a new user?
    I'd say most of them are in the IT industry or computer ne..., eer
    enthusiasts. I, like the majority of home users, just want an OS that
    works with my hardware. The fact that most USB ADSL modems aren't even
    supported, seriously hampers Linux as an alternative to windows.
    I would love to be able to recommend it to my friends, but how can I,
    if they can't even get on the net with their adsl modems?

    Mark K.
    MarkK Guest

  20. #20

    Default Re: usb adsl doesn't connect

    On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 at 17:23 GMT, MarkK eloquently wrote:
    > Harry Phillips <hhgdfnowhere> wrote in message news:<aq4du-pm2.ln1home.tux.invalid>...
    >> MarkK wrote:
    [...]
    >> Any ADSL modem that connects to the PC with a Cat5 cable is supported.
    >> Install Roaoring Penguin PPPOE and away you go.
    >
    > My ISP prefers PPPOA.
    Mine doesn't. As a matter of fact, I do not even know what
    mine prefers.
    >> > Here's something that IS advertised: Linux is crap for new users.
    >> >
    >>
    >> So who installs linux then?
    >
    > Quite a few newbies, who then discover that much of their hardware
    > isn't supported and give up on Linux altogether.
    >
    >> If only experienced users install it how do
    >> they get the experience without installing it as a new user?
    >
    > I'd say most of them are in the IT industry or computer ne..., eer
    > enthusiasts. I, like the majority of home users, just want an OS that
    > works with my hardware. The fact that most USB ADSL modems aren't even
    > supported, seriously hampers Linux as an alternative to windows.
    > I would love to be able to recommend it to my friends, but how can I,
    > if they can't even get on the net with their adsl modems?
    <SHAMELESS PLUG>
    Well if you having that many problems with adsl, maybe
    is it is time you moved to speakeasy.net. Just make sure
    you use the cables they send you...
    </SHAMELESS PLUG>

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