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Dear FreeBSD Team, Dear FreeBSD Users, I was wondering if the patches (see link below) have any chances to make their ways into a future release version or may be in the ports collection? Here are the patches I'm talking about : http://people.freebsd.org/~delphij/vesa Actually the vidcontrol.diff patch failed for me so I used these patches: http://www.nbritton.org/uploads/current-vesa_patch.tar.gz I'm not a programmer and I can't consider the amount of work or difficulty that these modifications require to the freebsd team to incorporate these changes. I use some older and newer hardware on servers, I don't want to install X and I often ...

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    Default vesa 1024x768 mode in future version? to the freebsd community

    Dear FreeBSD Team,
    Dear FreeBSD Users,

    I was wondering if the patches (see link below) have any chances to make their ways into a future release version or may be in the ports collection?

    Here are the patches I'm talking about:
    http://people.freebsd.org/~delphij/vesa
    Actually the vidcontrol.diff patch failed for me so I used these patches:
    http://www.nbritton.org/uploads/current-vesa_patch.tar.gz

    I'm not a programmer and I can't consider the amount of work or difficulty that these modifications require to the freebsd team to incorporate these changes.

    I use some older and newer hardware on servers, I don't want to install X and I often had problems getting high resolution modes in consoles (like in linux). Honestly, :-) even if X is installed, high resolution consoles are still nice to have, because 80x25 to 90x60 are nothing compared to a:
    vidcontrol MODE_279 (1024x768x16) resolution.

    I had the problem this afternoon while installing freebsd5.4-prerelease (from cvsuping RELENG_5) , 90x60 was the best resolution I could get (without the patch) with my laptop, it has an "ati mobility radeon 9600" graphic. SC_PIXEL_MODE only use 800x600x8 (256 colors, mode=259) which is not supported on ati cards. I assume that there are other vendors too.

    Reading and googling around showed that there are other users having console resolution problems. They would certainly be glad to have higher console resolutions too, especially migrating linux users.

    I do admit that the vidcontrol/syscon patches I use from www.nbritton.org...) are bit buggy, mouse cursor,
    or sluggy screen when going to X.

    This is not a complain or something similar ... as I reallly, really like freebsd (and openbsd too actually ;-)) and I have enormous respect that you develop it in your free time. I'm only wondering why this isn't integrated, is it useless for you, or to much work (or both) ...

    If it won't be integrated into a release, do you think it would be possible to put it and maintain it in the ports collection?

    May be other users think the same?

    Regards
    Didier

    Didier Guest

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    Default Re: vesa 1024x768 mode in future version? to the freebsd community

    Didier Wiroth writes:
     

    I'd definitely like to see text modes with higher resolution. I don't
    really care about graphics, but I'd like to be able to squeeze more text
    onto the console. I'd also like a better choice of fonts to improve
    readability, and a better choice of colors for text and backgrounds.

    --
    Anthony


    Anthony Guest

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    Default RE: vesa 1024x768 mode in future version? to the freebsd community

    Hello,

    Yes, I do agree that stability is "the" major argument for not using it.

    But isn't it worth to have a high resolution console on freebsd?

    Sorry, to be a bit self-confident ;-) but I'm rather sure that
    hundreds/thousands of freebsd would use it (on laptop, workstation and
    servers) if there would be an available solid implementation.

    One of the main arguments I've always reread, is, when you are
    physically at the console and require high definition consoles, "use X".

    On servers, security is "the" main factor and of course stability is
    part of good security. I personally don't tend to install X on servers,
    I'm sure there are other much better freebsd admins than me that don't
    install X on servers. Most security-related paper do not recommand to
    install X (and compilers of course etc). So at least on these kind of
    servers a high resolution (and of course) stable/solid console would be
    a real step forward for freebsd.

    In my "NON"-specialist opinion, comparing to linux distributions, it is
    the only main feature that bsd lacks.

    I personally don't like linux (but this is another discussion) but I've
    always missed the higher definition consoles on freebsd and/or even
    openbsd.

    Didier


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Robert Backhaus [mailto:com]
    Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 14:59
    To: Didier Wiroth
    Cc: org
    Subject: Re: vesa 1024x768 mode in future version? to the freebsd
    community

    On Apr 6, 2005 5:12 AM, Didier Wiroth <etat.lu>
    wrote: 
    make their ways into a future release version or may be in the ports
    collection?

    I agree that it would make life more enjoyable for some people, but the
    console is increasingly a fail-safe debugging/configuring interface, as
    more people use X for any work.
    Yes, I would use it myself in places, especially laptops, but I would
    not like it there if it possibly made the console less stable.
    It would want to be very well tested. I'd slate it for 6.Stable, when it
    occours.



    Didier Guest

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    Default Re: vesa 1024x768 mode in future version? to the freebsd community

    I would also love to see these patches committed and ready to use in a
    future release. I've been wanting to see this functionality since I
    started using FreeBSD five or so years ago.

    Myself and a friend have used these patches for quite some time now
    with no known stability issues. They work just fine. There is a minor
    problem with audio and scrolling (the audio breaks up and becomes
    distorted), but this is a problem I have had with audio in many other
    every day scenarios as well. Search the -CURRENT mailing lists and you
    should find a few posts I've written about this audio problem, as well
    as posts by many others.

    At least three people ask me on a regular basis if these have been
    committed, as I keep a close eye on them. It would be highly
    appreciated by many if this functionality were included.

    Thanks,

    -Travis Poppe
    Travis Guest

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    Default Re: vesa 1024x768 mode in future version? to the freebsd community

    point me at the patches again?


    Travis Poppe wrote:
     
    Julian Guest

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    Default Re: vesa 1024x768 mode in future version? to the freebsd community

    In long run, I really want KGI to be in kernel rather than this footshot
    hack,
    give me full framebuffer support.

    David Xu

    Didier Wiroth wrote:
     

    David Guest

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    On Apr 7, 2005 7:12 PM, David Xu <org> wrote: 

    I'm sure many of us would prefer to see KGI in the long run. However,
    that's not going to happen for quite some time. For now, this does the
    job just fine.

    -Travis Poppe
    Travis Guest

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    Default RE: vesa 1024x768 mode in future version? to the freebsd community

    Hi,
    Yessss ... please give me full framebuffer support too :-))
    If it can't make it's way to 5, perhaps it could be part of release 6?
     
    footshot hack, give me full framebuffer support.




    Didier Guest

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    Default Re: vesa 1024x768 mode in future version? to the freebsd community

    在 2005-04-07四的 14:37 -0700,Julian Elischer写道: 

    http://people.freebsd.org/~delphij/vesa

    The patchset is ported from DragonFlyBSD. It still have some issues at
    this time so I did not committed it yet. (Currently I am lack of time
    to investigate the problem so if someone else can fix the issue I will
    be happy to see them picking up this one).

    Cheers,
    --
    Xin LI <delphij delphij net> http://www.delphij.net/

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