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Virtual Memory - Adobe Photoshop & Illustrator

This may be expected if you do not have much real memory in the system and you are trying to do some memory intense work, or, it may be an indication of problems (such as a program that leaks). How much real memory is in the system ? (alt-cntrl-del TaskManager, Performance tab, Physical memory) What is the current pagefile size ? (or ifno from same TaskManager location, Commit Charge, Limit is real plus virtual) And, does this happen when you try to do the exact same things except just after a fresh reboot ? "larry" <lrkwabash.net> wrote in message news:035801c34309$876d74d0$a001280aphx.gbl... ...

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    This may be expected if you do not have much real memory
    in the system and you are trying to do some memory intense
    work, or, it may be an indication of problems (such as a
    program that leaks).
    How much real memory is in the system ?
    (alt-cntrl-del TaskManager, Performance tab, Physical memory)
    What is the current pagefile size ?
    (or ifno from same TaskManager location, Commit Charge, Limit
    is real plus virtual)
    And, does this happen when you try to do the exact same
    things except just after a fresh reboot ?

    "larry" <lrkwabash.net> wrote in message
    news:035801c34309$876d74d0$a001280aphx.gbl...
    > I keep geting a notice from the system that the "virtual
    > memory is low AND the system is in the process of
    > increasing it.
    >
    > What is going on? What should I be doing?
    >
    > I do notice things like pictures taking a LONG time to
    > load.
    >
    > I am barely literate about these things. Further, I do
    > have access to professional help. Just thought I would
    > check this out.
    >
    >

    Roger Abell [MVP] Guest

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    Here is an interesting thing. Maybe there is a new worm on the loose
    since this hacker-fest was announced.

    For the first time since 18-o-plonk, I've had an attempted connection
    on port 4000 from `195.205.210.179`. If the IP is not spoofed then
    it's come from . . .

    inetnum: 195.205.210.128 - 195.205.210.255
    netname: TELEPRACA-STROZE
    descr: TELEPRACA S.A.
    descr: Stroze
    country: PL
    admin-c: BW146-RIPE
    tech-c: JG298-RIPE
    status: ASSIGNED PA
    mnt-by: TPNET
    changed: [email]tkielbcst.tpsa.pl[/email] 20011205
    source: RIPE

    route: 195.205.0.0/16
    descr: TPNET
    descr: for abuse: [email]abusetpnet.pl[/email]
    origin: AS5617
    mnt-by: AS5617-MNT
    changed: [email]nabntpnet.pl[/email] 20030228
    source: RIPE

    person: Bernadetta Wasko
    address: TELEPRACA S.A.
    address: 33-331 Stroze 413
    address: Poland
    phone: +48 18 4454324
    e-mail: [email]telepracastrozepoczta.onet.pl[/email]
    nic-hdl: BW146-RIPE
    mnt-by: TPNET
    changed: [email]tkielbcst.tpsa.pl[/email] 20011204
    source: RIPE

    person: Jerzy Gawryluk
    address: Telepraca S.A.
    address: Stroze 413
    address: 33-331 Stroze
    address: Poland
    phone: +48 604 412274
    nic-hdl: JG298-RIPE
    mnt-by: TPNET
    changed: [email]tkielbcst.tpsa.pl[/email] 20011122
    source: RIPE


    Comments . . . . . ?
    Myron Guest

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    "Janet" <hrjaaanebi.com> wrote:
    >Why does a message keep popping up with Virtual Memory Low
    >all the time on my pc. It is a DELL with Windows XP Home.
    See if this helps:
    "Error Message: Your System Has No Paging File, or the Paging File Is
    Too Small" ([url]http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315270[/url])
    "Virtual Memory Error Message When You Shut Down the Computer"
    ([url]http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811153[/url])
    "Error Message When You Start Windows: Your System Is Low on Virtual
    Memory" ([url]http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315351[/url])

    --
    (tm)
    Thorsten Matzner Guest

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    Bob,

    Try deleting prefs.
    Richard Coencas Guest

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    The program won't open so I cannot access Preferences to delete. Also, I have defragmented very recently. BobA
    BobArndt Guest

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    BobA,

    IMMEDIATELY after clicking the icon to start PSE, press and hold CTRL-ALT-SHIFT.

    A dialog will come up as PSE opens, to confirm that you wish to delete preferences.

    Byron
    Byron Gale Guest

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    Nancy,

    Good point... for my own curiosity, would it be recommended to delete the entire folder, or leave the folder and clear out the contents?

    I refer to the folder:

    C:\windows\Application Data\Adobe\Photoshop\Elements\Photoshop Elements 2.0 Prefs

    Thanks for the reminder.

    Byron
    Byron Gale Guest

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    I take out the whole folder on my computer, and I haven't broken anything yet!
    Beth Haney Guest

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    Byron & Nancy
    I sincerely appreciate your help. Somehow these things aren't working on my system. By the way, I'm using Windows 98SE. I just redefragged and deleted anything that had anything to do with Adobe, including deleting the Prefs and the reader programs. I then reloaded Adobe Photoshop Elements. I still have the same problem. There is obviously something on my system that doesn't like my PSE.
    BobA
    BobArndt Guest

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    There is obviously something on my system that doesn't like my PSE.




    Wouldn't happen to be Norton, would it?
    Barbara Brundage Guest

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    Not just Norton, but are you running any kind of an anti-virus software? And, if so, was it active when you installed Elements?

    Sorry this one fell so far toward the bottom!
    Beth Haney Guest

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    Beth & Barbara -- Thanks for the additional comments. Based on your question, I turned off Norton and reloaded Photoshop. I also set the virtual memory to my control instead of letting Windows control it. I'm not sure if the virtual memory setting is in kilo or mega bytes. I still get the message that there is not enough virtual memory to start Photoshop.
    BOBA
    BobArndt Guest

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    Bob,

    Try this. Use the macro to delete prefs. Control-Alt-Shift on launch. When the dialog comes up saying delete settings, keep holding down Control and Alt while you click yes. After a few seconds you should get a second dialog letting you change scratch disks. Set the primary to something other than startup and see if that clears up the problem.

    Rich
    Richard Coencas Guest

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    Help when I get this message: Could not start Adobe Photoshop Elements
    because the volume Windows is using for Virtual Memory does not have enough
    free space...

    Im running Win98SE, RAM256Mb, C disk 850Mb free


    TIA
    gimme Guest

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    Over the past few days I am noticing some software crashes on the UNIX
    Server. The logs of the servers don't show anything because probably
    the standard output is not working at the time of the crash and this
    has prompted me to check the virtual memory statistics on the UNIX
    Server. I am not able to comprehend and relate the output of these
    commands too well.
    > vmstat 1
    Virtual Memory Statistics: (pagesize = 8192)
    procs memory pages intr
    cpu
    r w u act free wire fault cow zero react pin pout in sy cs
    us sy id
    20 786 205 638K 149K 239K 33G 1G 3G 39113 3G 0 1K 20K 7K
    9 16 75
    16 791 205 639K 148K 239K 8403 1050 4868 0 888 0 1K 19K 8K
    20 25 56
    19 788 204 633K 153K 239K 8783 1159 5204 0 709 0 886 15K 8K
    16 17 67
    19 789 204 634K 152K 239K 6874 1240 4557 0 837 0 732 17K 7K
    19 16 65
    18 796 205 637K 149K 239K 11250 2010 5777 0 2334 0 695 19K 6K
    28 23 49

    Is 149K of free memory alarming ? Do you see any problem with the
    virtual memory usage ? When I do vmstat-s I see the following stats -
    > vmstat -s
    Virtual Memory Statistics: (pagesize = 8192)
    208335 active pages
    73422 inactive pages
    178967 free pages
    245443 wired pages
    33438697750 virtual memory page faults
    1371069120 copy-on-write page faults
    3417766451 zero fill page faults
    39113 reattaches from reclaim list
    3479713004 pages paged in
    0 pages paged out
    14637421302 task and thread context switches
    2120624601 device interrupts
    41916705505 system calls

    And swapon -s gives the following output
    gs140b:/prod/ecs/edi/geisupload/log > swapon -s
    Swap partition /dev/disk/dsk57c:
    Allocated space: 523755 pages (4.00GB)
    In-use space: 129 pages ( 0%)
    Free space: 523626 pages ( 99%)

    Swap partition /dev/disk/dsk58c:
    Allocated space: 523755 pages (4.00GB)
    In-use space: 129 pages ( 0%)
    Free space: 523626 pages ( 99%)

    Swap partition /dev/disk/dsk59c:
    Allocated space: 523755 pages (4.00GB)
    In-use space: 129 pages ( 0%)
    Free space: 523626 pages ( 99%)


    Total swap allocation:
    Allocated space: 1571265 pages (11.99GB)
    In-use space: 387 pages ( 0%)
    Available space: 1570878 pages ( 99%)

    ---

    Can anyone point me to any problematic memory usage here ? Thanks in
    advance.
    Mark Guest

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    Mark wrote:
    > Over the past few days I am noticing some software crashes on the UNIX
    > Server. The logs of the servers don't show anything because probably
    > the standard output is not working at the time of the crash and this
    > has prompted me to check the virtual memory statistics on the UNIX
    > Server. I am not able to comprehend and relate the output of these
    > commands too well.
    <snipped>

    The only time that virtual memory might enter into the problem is if
    the kernel itself crashes. Other software crashes should be accompanied
    by a core file (unless you have that suppressed) which should give you
    some information as to why there was a failure. The stats you included
    are not indicative of a problem, and it appear that you have 11GB of
    virtual memory to play with, where almost none of it is in use.
    You might get a better indication by executing the "swap -l" command
    (if you have it) which will tell you swap usage.

    --

    Fletcher Glenn

    Fletcher Glenn Guest

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