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"Peter Patershuk" <ppatershukshaw.ca> wrote in message news:CNYQa.465789$Vi5.12096016news1.calgary.shaw. ca... > Hi, > I am trying to make the decision to purchase either the Vivitar S 1 > 70-210 f 3.5 (62mm) filter made by Tokina and is built like a tank or the > Pentax (AF) SMC F 70-210 f 4-5.6 (49mm filter) this lens is purported to > have ED glass elements and produces very good images some of the best in its > class. Also it is alot lighter and build quality is ok. Both are in very > good shape and are like new. > After reviewing many ...

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    Default Re: Vivitar Series 1 70-210 3.5 lens compared to Pentax 70-200 or newer types of lens


    "Peter Patershuk" <ppatershukshaw.ca> wrote in message
    news:CNYQa.465789$Vi5.12096016news1.calgary.shaw. ca...
    > Hi,
    > I am trying to make the decision to purchase either the Vivitar S 1
    > 70-210 f 3.5 (62mm) filter made by Tokina and is built like a tank or the
    > Pentax (AF) SMC F 70-210 f 4-5.6 (49mm filter) this lens is purported to
    > have ED glass elements and produces very good images some of the best in
    its
    > class. Also it is alot lighter and build quality is ok. Both are in very
    > good shape and are like new.
    > After reviewing many internet sites both lenses get excellent reviews.
    > My concern is how do I judge their qualities such as sharpness,
    distortion,
    > contrast, flare resistance etc.
    > What is the real information verses cult status and band wagon
    support.
    > Is the Vivitar S1 70-210 f 3.5 still able to compete in such glowing terms
    > with the newer technology.
    > The cameras I have are ME Super and the MZ 6 and lenses are Pentax A
    > 50 mm 1.7, Pentax AF 28-70 f 4. I am inclined to the Pentax F 70-210 f
    4-5.6
    > because of the MZ 6. But I really would like to get a understanding of
    what
    > are the true attributes of the Vivitar S1 70-210 f 3.5 (62mm).
    >
    FWIW:
    [url]http://www.robertstech.com/vivitar.htm[/url]

    I have the Komine version (f2.8-4) of this lens and it's made very well. In
    fact, I'd say TOO well made. It's really much too heavy for it's size.

    It creates very nice images but not outstanding. The images don't really
    "pop". The Komine version even tested sharper then the Tokina which is
    lighter in weight.

    Dave




    DJA Guest

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    Default Re: Vivitar Series 1 70-210 3.5 lens compared to Pentax 70-200 or newer types of lens

    Tony, I have the Canon FD mount 70-210 f3.5 Vivitar Series 1 (Kiron) lens,
    still, and, yes, it is old. but it always produced images the equal of
    anything produced by my current crop of EF mount Canon lenses, and its build
    quality is superior to any but my 100-400 "L". I just had it out last
    night, and its zoom and focus movements were smooth and damped and there was
    no sign of "zoom creep," unlike my current 28-135.

    --
    Skip Middleton
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    "Tony Spadaro" <tspadaroncmaps.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:e3%Qa.288633$jp.7811668twister.southeast.rr. com...
    > For it to be a real Series 1 Vivitar it would have to be 20 or more
    years
    > old - meaning that it is a stone age design in zoom terms. There are a lot
    > of us who were never impressed by Series one Vivitars back in the 70s when
    > they came out. The build quality was never anything to write home about,
    and
    > I certainly never saw any proof that they produced sharper pictures.
    > The only sure way is to test the two lenses and see which, if either,
    > produces a better picture, and which, if either, feels like it will
    survive
    > any amount of time. If it's a newer, Cosina made, Vivitar I can pretty
    much
    > guaranee you it will not be worth the money - no matter how cheap.
    >
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    > "Peter Patershuk" <ppatershukshaw.ca> wrote in message
    > news:CNYQa.465789$Vi5.12096016news1.calgary.shaw. ca...
    > > Hi,
    > > I am trying to make the decision to purchase either the Vivitar S 1
    > > 70-210 f 3.5 (62mm) filter made by Tokina and is built like a tank or
    the
    > > Pentax (AF) SMC F 70-210 f 4-5.6 (49mm filter) this lens is purported to
    > > have ED glass elements and produces very good images some of the best in
    > its
    > > class. Also it is alot lighter and build quality is ok. Both are in
    very
    > > good shape and are like new.
    > > After reviewing many internet sites both lenses get excellent
    reviews.
    > > My concern is how do I judge their qualities such as sharpness,
    > distortion,
    > > contrast, flare resistance etc.
    > > What is the real information verses cult status and band wagon
    > support.
    > > Is the Vivitar S1 70-210 f 3.5 still able to compete in such glowing
    terms
    > > with the newer technology.
    > > The cameras I have are ME Super and the MZ 6 and lenses are Pentax
    A
    > > 50 mm 1.7, Pentax AF 28-70 f 4. I am inclined to the Pentax F 70-210 f
    > 4-5.6
    > > because of the MZ 6. But I really would like to get a understanding of
    > what
    > > are the true attributes of the Vivitar S1 70-210 f 3.5 (62mm).
    > >
    > >
    > > Thanks for your time, Peter.
    > >
    > >
    >
    >

    Skip Middleton Guest

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    Default Re: Vivitar Series 1 70-210 3.5 lens compared to Pentax 70-200 or newer types of lens


    Regarding Viv S-1 glass. There are numerous Series 1, 70-210 lenses.
    However, for the sake of discussion, we will deal with the first five. The 4th
    & 5th editions are nothing to seriously consider, so we will concentrate on the
    first three editions, which are the good one's. The 4th & 5th editions are also
    2.8-4 variable aperture model's, but lacking in construction quality (Cosina
    built). Due to the fact that the third one is a variable aperture lens, (2.8-4)
    it will be somewhat sharper than a fixed aperture lens. It is much easier to
    design and build a quality variable aperture lens. The first edition was
    designed by Vivitar (Ellis Betensky had a hand in it) and built by Kiron. (67mm
    filter) It is a professional caliber lens, with a 1:2 macro feature built into
    it. It was the first zoom, designed with the aid of computers, that truly
    rivaled the OEM lenses of the time. That was in "76."

    The second edition (my personal favorite) was built by Tokina, per, Vivitars
    specs. It too, is a fixed 3.5 aperture, but smaller, lighter and sharper. (62mm
    filter size). I really like it because of the fixed 3.5 aperture which is nice
    for focusing in dim light and long range flash work. However, not a true macro,
    1:4 life size.

    The third edition was made by Komine, and like the first two, is very well
    built. It is a 2.8-4 variable aperture lens, and the sharpest of the bunch. It
    has 1:2.5 life size macro from 100-210mm's, with a working distance of about
    two feet. Which can be quite useful. Can you see a discernible difference in
    slides taken with either one of them? No! Don't get caught up in bench tests.
    All of them will give you professional-publishable images. I really like this
    lens, and in time may become my favorite.

    Personally, I recommend the second or third edition of the line.

    If you have anymore questions about the Viv line, or want more detailed
    information on a particular lens, please don't hesitate to ask. Are you aware
    of the Viv S-1 28-90 or the Kiron 28-85? As for Kiron glass, well that's
    another discussion.........

    Russ

    Quietlightphoto Guest

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