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    I created a web site with Publisher. My site has numerous photos. I'm having difficulty because once created the site doesn't load like it should nad it doesn't "treat" each photo like a photo. It "treats" it as if it is part of the background. It shows that is is embedded. This makes the page load very slow. It looks as if it is done loading when no pictures are visible, then slowly the pictures start to appear. Does anyone have any suggestions
    Thanks
    Lis

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    Default Re: web site with publisher

    You don't state the version.
    Each version is different with web design.
    If you are using 2003 the first thing you can do is to not use original
    images as Pub 2003 will retain the size and resolution of them. Instead you
    need you use a photo editor first to save the images in a smaller size and
    resolution (96dpi). Then use those smaller images in the Pub 2003 page. Also
    use photos sparingly. You can add more pages and spread photos out rather
    then dump several on a page.

    --
    David Bartosik - MS MVP
    for Publisher help:
    [url]www.davidbartosik.com[/url]
    enter to win Pub 2003:
    [url]www.davidbartosik.com/giveaway.aspx[/url]


    "Lisa" <cgunnoe@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:075E5917-7678-4912-BFBF-36DF293591F4@microsoft.com...
    > I created a web site with Publisher. My site has numerous photos. I'm
    having difficulty because once created the site doesn't load like it should
    nad it doesn't "treat" each photo like a photo. It "treats" it as if it is
    part of the background. It shows that is is embedded. This makes the page
    load very slow. It looks as if it is done loading when no pictures are
    visible, then slowly the pictures start to appear. Does anyone have any
    suggestions?
    > Thanks,
    > Lisa
    >

    David Bartosik - MS MVP Guest

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    Default Re: web site with publisher

    What if the page is a gallery page?
    damzish Guest

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    Default Re: web site with publisher

    Any image should be sized and reduced to 96 dpi before being inserted into
    any Publisher page in version 2003 for best results.

    --
    David Bartosik - MS MVP
    for Publisher help:
    [url]www.davidbartosik.com[/url]
    enter to win Pub 2003:
    [url]www.davidbartosik.com/giveaway.aspx[/url]


    "damzish" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:1FB79B29-076E-4CFD-8D8E-B2C83E0BD2AB@microsoft.com...
    > What if the page is a gallery page?

    David Bartosik - MS MVP Guest

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    Default Re: web site with publisher

    Hi David,
    It is publisher 2003. The problem seems to be that Publisher 2003 embeds each photo into the background. Is there some way, other than making the photo a link, to stop Publisher from embedding the photo into the background. I'm a photographer, and this web site is for my business, so I need quite a few photos on each page. My home page only has four photos of very small size and it still takes forever to load becuase of the embedding issue. [url]www.lisagunnoe.com[/url]
    Thanks,
    Lisa


    "David Bartosik - MS MVP" wrote:
    > You don't state the version.
    > Each version is different with web design.
    > If you are using 2003 the first thing you can do is to not use original
    > images as Pub 2003 will retain the size and resolution of them. Instead you
    > need you use a photo editor first to save the images in a smaller size and
    > resolution (96dpi). Then use those smaller images in the Pub 2003 page. Also
    > use photos sparingly. You can add more pages and spread photos out rather
    > then dump several on a page.
    >
    > --
    > David Bartosik - MS MVP
    > for Publisher help:
    > [url]www.davidbartosik.com[/url]
    > enter to win Pub 2003:
    > [url]www.davidbartosik.com/giveaway.aspx[/url]
    >
    >
    > "Lisa" <cgunnoe@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    > news:075E5917-7678-4912-BFBF-36DF293591F4@microsoft.com...
    > > I created a web site with Publisher. My site has numerous photos. I'm
    > having difficulty because once created the site doesn't load like it should
    > nad it doesn't "treat" each photo like a photo. It "treats" it as if it is
    > part of the background. It shows that is is embedded. This makes the page
    > load very slow. It looks as if it is done loading when no pictures are
    > visible, then slowly the pictures start to appear. Does anyone have any
    > suggestions?
    > > Thanks,
    > > Lisa
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    Lisa Guest

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    Default Re: web site with publisher

    Publisher embeds the images IF you layer the image with other objects. This
    is covered on the FAQ - [url]www.davidbartosik.com/faq.htm[/url]
    A quick look at your page and I see you applied a border/shadow to each
    image BAM that would do it. If you want the image to be edited in such a way
    without embedding you'd have to design the image that way in a photo editor
    and insert it into pub already done that way.
    You also have the filled text boxes as a background area behind the image
    collection, that could also be a factor. I'd suggest pulling off the border
    work on one of the images and test it to see if it still embeds the image,
    if so then remove the background fills and test again.
    Note that if you were using a web design program such as FrontPage, you
    would have to create that whole thing in a graphic editor and then splice
    it. In other words Publisher saves you some time but has limitations.
    You can manually "link" images - see
    [url]http://www.davidbartosik.com/pub2002/pub2002_26.htm[/url] - but you wouldn't be
    able to layer them with the background designs.
    Publisher is working as it's intended, as it needs to, to produce your
    design.
    I very nice design, good job, btw.
    If you design the images solo on a plain background you'll get a faster load
    time. Welcome to web design. You have to deal with finding a balance (or
    not) between load time and the design you want.
    You might look over the articles at [url]www.davidbartosik.com/web.htm[/url] - some of
    them may be helpful.

    --
    David Bartosik - MS MVP
    for Publisher help:
    [url]www.davidbartosik.com[/url]
    enter to win Pub 2003:
    [url]www.davidbartosik.com/giveaway.aspx[/url]




    "Lisa" <Lisa@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:095A708E-C50B-4DE0-AE0C-25A66D77E21E@microsoft.com...
    > Hi David,
    > It is publisher 2003. The problem seems to be that Publisher 2003 embeds
    each photo into the background. Is there some way, other than making the
    photo a link, to stop Publisher from embedding the photo into the
    background. I'm a photographer, and this web site is for my business, so I
    need quite a few photos on each page. My home page only has four photos of
    very small size and it still takes forever to load becuase of the embedding
    issue. [url]www.lisagunnoe.com[/url]
    > Thanks,
    > Lisa
    >
    >
    > "David Bartosik - MS MVP" wrote:
    >
    > > You don't state the version.
    > > Each version is different with web design.
    > > If you are using 2003 the first thing you can do is to not use original
    > > images as Pub 2003 will retain the size and resolution of them. Instead
    you
    > > need you use a photo editor first to save the images in a smaller size
    and
    > > resolution (96dpi). Then use those smaller images in the Pub 2003 page.
    Also
    > > use photos sparingly. You can add more pages and spread photos out
    rather
    > > then dump several on a page.
    > >
    > > --
    > > David Bartosik - MS MVP
    > > for Publisher help:
    > > [url]www.davidbartosik.com[/url]
    > > enter to win Pub 2003:
    > > [url]www.davidbartosik.com/giveaway.aspx[/url]
    > >
    > >
    > > "Lisa" <cgunnoe@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    > > news:075E5917-7678-4912-BFBF-36DF293591F4@microsoft.com...
    > > > I created a web site with Publisher. My site has numerous photos.
    I'm
    > > having difficulty because once created the site doesn't load like it
    should
    > > nad it doesn't "treat" each photo like a photo. It "treats" it as if it
    is
    > > part of the background. It shows that is is embedded. This makes the
    page
    > > load very slow. It looks as if it is done loading when no pictures are
    > > visible, then slowly the pictures start to appear. Does anyone have any
    > > suggestions?
    > > > Thanks,
    > > > Lisa
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >

    David Bartosik - MS MVP Guest

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    Default Re: web site with publisher

    Honestly, for a commercial site, the best advice is to forget about Publisher.
    Go with Dreamweaver and avoid the problems with Publisher and FrontPage
    altogether. Now ducking in anticipation of MVP wrath...

    On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:18:22 -0500, "David Bartosik - MS MVP"
    <forums@davidbartosik.com> wrote:
    >Publisher embeds the images IF you layer the image with other objects. This
    >is covered on the FAQ - [url]www.davidbartosik.com/faq.htm[/url]
    >A quick look at your page and I see you applied a border/shadow to each
    >image BAM that would do it. If you want the image to be edited in such a way
    >without embedding you'd have to design the image that way in a photo editor
    >and insert it into pub already done that way.
    >You also have the filled text boxes as a background area behind the image
    >collection, that could also be a factor. I'd suggest pulling off the border
    >work on one of the images and test it to see if it still embeds the image,
    >if so then remove the background fills and test again.
    >Note that if you were using a web design program such as FrontPage, you
    >would have to create that whole thing in a graphic editor and then splice
    >it. In other words Publisher saves you some time but has limitations.
    >You can manually "link" images - see
    >[url]http://www.davidbartosik.com/pub2002/pub2002_26.htm[/url] - but you wouldn't be
    >able to layer them with the background designs.
    >Publisher is working as it's intended, as it needs to, to produce your
    >design.
    >I very nice design, good job, btw.
    >If you design the images solo on a plain background you'll get a faster load
    >time. Welcome to web design. You have to deal with finding a balance (or
    >not) between load time and the design you want.
    >You might look over the articles at [url]www.davidbartosik.com/web.htm[/url] - some of
    >them may be helpful.
    analog@logwell.com Guest

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    Default Re: web site with publisher

    No wrath on my part. You are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to
    mine.I'd recommend FrontPage but I prefer M$'s products and have for years,
    long before I ever heard of MVPs. (I used your abbreviation to make you
    smile.)

    --
    JoAnn Paules
    MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



    <analog@logwell.com> wrote in message
    news:pupvc05a79o4v9hru5jdf3qp1bpkftjlog@4ax.com...
    > Honestly, for a commercial site, the best advice is to forget about
    Publisher.
    > Go with Dreamweaver and avoid the problems with Publisher and FrontPage
    > altogether. Now ducking in anticipation of MVP wrath...
    >
    > On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:18:22 -0500, "David Bartosik - MS MVP"
    > <forums@davidbartosik.com> wrote:
    >
    > >Publisher embeds the images IF you layer the image with other objects.
    This
    > >is covered on the FAQ - [url]www.davidbartosik.com/faq.htm[/url]
    > >A quick look at your page and I see you applied a border/shadow to each
    > >image BAM that would do it. If you want the image to be edited in such a
    way
    > >without embedding you'd have to design the image that way in a photo
    editor
    > >and insert it into pub already done that way.
    > >You also have the filled text boxes as a background area behind the image
    > >collection, that could also be a factor. I'd suggest pulling off the
    border
    > >work on one of the images and test it to see if it still embeds the
    image,
    > >if so then remove the background fills and test again.
    > >Note that if you were using a web design program such as FrontPage, you
    > >would have to create that whole thing in a graphic editor and then splice
    > >it. In other words Publisher saves you some time but has limitations.
    > >You can manually "link" images - see
    > >[url]http://www.davidbartosik.com/pub2002/pub2002_26.htm[/url] - but you wouldn't be
    > >able to layer them with the background designs.
    > >Publisher is working as it's intended, as it needs to, to produce your
    > >design.
    > >I very nice design, good job, btw.
    > >If you design the images solo on a plain background you'll get a faster
    load
    > >time. Welcome to web design. You have to deal with finding a balance (or
    > >not) between load time and the design you want.
    > >You might look over the articles at [url]www.davidbartosik.com/web.htm[/url] - some
    of
    > >them may be helpful.
    >

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    JL Paules Guest

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    Indeed, you did make me smile! Thank you. I use many M$ products, but they
    just never seem to be ready for prime time. Of course that is not unique to M$;
    much of the software out here is as buggy or worse than M$ products.

    On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 17:10:55 -0400, "JL Paules" <JL_Amerson@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >No wrath on my part. You are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to
    >mine.I'd recommend FrontPage but I prefer M$'s products and have for years,
    >long before I ever heard of MVPs. (I used your abbreviation to make you
    >smile.)
    analog@logwell.com Guest

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    Hi David,
    Thank you much. I will work on it and see if I can get Publisher to do what I need it to do. I really don't want to get another program. As you can tell, I don't need fancy this or that for my web site. I'm after simple elegance. I like Publisher because I can do most anything I want with it. Sure hope I can work this out.
    Thanks again for your help... I will check it out this weekend and keep you posted.
    Lisa




    "David Bartosik - MS MVP" wrote:
    > Publisher embeds the images IF you layer the image with other objects. This
    > is covered on the FAQ - [url]www.davidbartosik.com/faq.htm[/url]
    > A quick look at your page and I see you applied a border/shadow to each
    > image BAM that would do it. If you want the image to be edited in such a way
    > without embedding you'd have to design the image that way in a photo editor
    > and insert it into pub already done that way.
    > You also have the filled text boxes as a background area behind the image
    > collection, that could also be a factor. I'd suggest pulling off the border
    > work on one of the images and test it to see if it still embeds the image,
    > if so then remove the background fills and test again.
    > Note that if you were using a web design program such as FrontPage, you
    > would have to create that whole thing in a graphic editor and then splice
    > it. In other words Publisher saves you some time but has limitations.
    > You can manually "link" images - see
    > [url]http://www.davidbartosik.com/pub2002/pub2002_26.htm[/url] - but you wouldn't be
    > able to layer them with the background designs.
    > Publisher is working as it's intended, as it needs to, to produce your
    > design.
    > I very nice design, good job, btw.
    > If you design the images solo on a plain background you'll get a faster load
    > time. Welcome to web design. You have to deal with finding a balance (or
    > not) between load time and the design you want.
    > You might look over the articles at [url]www.davidbartosik.com/web.htm[/url] - some of
    > them may be helpful.
    >
    Lisa Guest

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