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On 20/7/03 7:30 am, "Mark M" <net> wrote:   Me too, but you don't have to spend long looking for them in most cities these days. Pat -- Photos at: http://www.shuttercity.com/ShowGallery.cfm?Format=Cell&AcctID=1251...

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    On 20/7/03 7:30 am, "Mark M" <net> wrote:
     

    Me too, but you don't have to spend long looking for them in most cities
    these days.


    Pat
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    http://www.shuttercity.com/ShowGallery.cfm?Format=Cell&AcctID=1251

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    Well, I'm not "doing" anything. These are store bought Compaq/HP products.
    Throw in a few Dells, Gateways, and you've got the several hundred PCs in my
    facility. There's nothing homebuilt or custom-made in the facility.

    Anyway, drives can, and will fail. As can power supplies, and many other
    things.

    "John Navas" <com> wrote in message
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    >
    > Then you're doing something wrong; e.g., power, heat, handling.
    >
    > --
    > Best regards,
    > John Navas
    > [PLEASE NOTE: Ads belong *only* in rec.photo.marketplace.digital, as per
    > <http://bobatkins.photo.net/info/charter.htm> <http://rpdfaq.50megs.com/>][/ref]


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    John Navas <com> wrote: 
    >
    >Then you're doing something wrong; e.g., power, heat, handling.[/ref]

    And clearly John has never worked in a datacenter.

    It's rather simple probability - as the number of drives increases,
    the odds of a failure quickly approach 1. And that's in a location
    where power, heat concerns are addressed.

    And thus we have RAID.

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    Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com
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    Mark M wrote: 


    A laptop seems more useful for long trips, to me. You can convert and
    view your photos while you are at that far from home place. Viewing on
    hotel TV's is of limited usefulness, at best. The picture, like on any
    TV, is a pretty vague approximation, and hotel TV's often aren't the
    best. Then there's the extra weight of carrying an RF modulator for
    those TV's lacking a composite input.

    Then again, some people might not want full email and internet access
    while traveling, unlike me :)

    Lisa
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    "Lisa Horton" <net> wrote in message
    news:net... 
    >
    >
    > A laptop seems more useful for long trips, to me. You can convert and
    > view your photos while you are at that far from home place. Viewing on
    > hotel TV's is of limited usefulness, at best. The picture, like on any
    > TV, is a pretty vague approximation, and hotel TV's often aren't the
    > best. Then there's the extra weight of carrying an RF modulator for
    > those TV's lacking a composite input.
    >
    > Then again, some people might not want full email and internet access
    > while traveling, unlike me :)[/ref]

    I have no desire to view images on TV either.
    For some trips, I'll likely take my laptop still.

    I don't have 30GB of storage left on my laptop though...and it gets awfully
    heavy hiking through the wilds with it in my backpack. :)
    Plus... I hate sitting and waiting for boot-up...call me impatient.


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    Switching from bottom-posting to top-posting in mid-thread is confusing and
    rude.

    Hard disk drives are very reliable, but 3 crashes per month is about what
    would be expected from a population of 1000 drives running 24x7.

    In <bGySa.108219$H17.33213sccrnsc02> on Sun, 20 Jul 2003 15:36:39 GMT,
    "bowser" <it> wrote:
     
    >>
    >> Then you're doing something wrong; e.g., power, heat, handling.[/ref][/ref]

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    Best regards,
    John Navas
    [PLEASE NOTE: Ads belong *only* in rec.photo.marketplace.digital, as per
    <http://bobatkins.photo.net/info/charter.htm> <http://rpdfaq.50megs.com/>]
    John Guest

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    In <bfhkpd$2p4t$berkeley.edu> on Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:09:02 +0000
    (UTC), csua.berkeley.edu (Jason O'Rourke) wrote:
     
     
    >>
    >>Then you're doing something wrong; e.g., power, heat, handling.[/ref]
    >
    >And clearly John has never worked in a datacenter.[/ref]

    Wrong. But thanks for playing. And I've also worked in the hard disk
    business, with access to lots of data.
     

    You need to learn more about MTBF. The expected failures per hour (which is
    how the industry measures such things) increase, but that's a different thing
    entirely. It can and does exceed 1, depending on the population.

    --
    Best regards,
    John Navas
    [PLEASE NOTE: Ads belong *only* in rec.photo.marketplace.digital, as per
    <http://bobatkins.photo.net/info/charter.htm> <http://rpdfaq.50megs.com/>]
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    In <net> on Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:51:00 -0700, Lisa
    Horton <net> wrote:
     

    Haven't run into one of those yet. I would save far more weight than that in
    any event by not carrying a laptop.

    --
    Best regards,
    John Navas
    [PLEASE NOTE: Ads belong *only* in rec.photo.marketplace.digital, as per
    <http://bobatkins.photo.net/info/charter.htm> <http://rpdfaq.50megs.com/>]
    John Guest

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    John Navas <com> wrote: 
    >>And clearly John has never worked in a datacenter.[/ref]
    >Wrong. But thanks for playing. And I've also worked in the hard disk
    >business, with access to lots of data.[/ref]

    Bluster on all you like, John, but when you make ridiculous claims such as
    3 drive failures implies incompetence you only make a fool out of yourself.

    Like with Maniac, that doesn't seem to discourage you from making such
    remarks.

    --
    Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com
    Jason Guest

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    Bottom to top? I didn't change anything.

    Anyway, the point is that hard drives fail, and somewhat routinely. Too much
    so for my taste, and too often to trust my travel shots.

    "John Navas" <com> wrote in message
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    products. [/ref]
    my [/ref]
    >
    > --
    > Best regards,
    > John Navas
    > [PLEASE NOTE: Ads belong *only* in rec.photo.marketplace.digital, as per
    > <http://bobatkins.photo.net/info/charter.htm> <http://rpdfaq.50megs.com/>][/ref]


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    As "bowser" <it> so eloquently put:
    [] Long trips? Film. It's quite amazing, and as long as you take reasonable
    [] care of it, you'll get some pretty good images.

    So how does "take reasonable care of it" not apply to other storage
    mediums?

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