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What would you use? VNC or Exceed? - Linux Setup, Configuration & Administration

Hey all, I have a choice of using Exceed or VNC to remotely work on my Linux box.. (I don't have a second monitor..) Are there any pro's/con's to using either? Thanks Dave -- ---- ca "Thanks to the remote control I have the attention span of a gerbil!" "There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't."...

  1. #1

    Default What would you use? VNC or Exceed?


    Hey all,

    I have a choice of using Exceed or VNC to remotely work on my Linux box..
    (I don't have a second monitor..) Are there any pro's/con's to using
    either?

    Thanks
    Dave

    --
    ----
    ca
    "Thanks to the remote control I have the attention span of a gerbil!"
    "There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary,
    and those who don't."


    Dave Guest

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    Default Re: What would you use? VNC or Exceed?

    Dave Best <ca> wrote: 

    I have approximatively 26 servers, some of them aren't even equipped
    with a video card. I've never used vnc nor exceed for them. Just
    ssh and (eventually) remote X. I really don't understand what's the
    point in using such tools for Linux/Unix.

    Davide
    Davide Guest

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    Default Re: What would you use? VNC or Exceed?


    "Davide Bianchi" <net> wrote in message
    news:bnebvb$10bl99$news.uni-berlin.de... [/ref]
    box.. 
    >
    > I have approximatively 26 servers, some of them aren't even equipped
    > with a video card. I've never used vnc nor exceed for them. Just
    > ssh and (eventually) remote X. I really don't understand what's the
    > point in using such tools for Linux/Unix.[/ref]

    Because he's trying to work *from* his Windows box. He needs an X server:
    VNC will provide this, so will Exceed.

    Now, me, I use CygWin with SSH from the Windows clients. They just added the
    capability of "rootless" windows, which is pretty nifty and makes the
    Windows X server vastly more usable.


    Nico Guest

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    Default Re: What would you use? VNC or Exceed?

    On 25 Oct 2003 17:30:19 GMT, Davide Bianchi wrote: 
    >
    > I have approximatively 26 servers, some of them aren't even equipped
    > with a video card. I've never used vnc nor exceed for them. Just ssh
    > and (eventually) remote X. I really don't understand what's the point
    > in using such tools for Linux/Unix.[/ref]

    Low-bandwidth links. VNC performs much better than remote X in such
    cases. Also, VNC can be configured so multiple people can access the
    same desktop. Which can be nice when doing remote training or other
    collaborative work.

    The OP's scenario probably doesn't match these, but there are benefits
    to VNC under the right cirstances.

    - W. Citoan
    --
    All Finagle Laws may be bypassed by learning the simple art of doing
    without thinking.
    W. Guest

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    Default Re: What would you use? VNC or Exceed?

    Nico Kadel-Garcia <net> wrote:
     
    ....
     [/ref]
     

    ....

    While I agree that those toys are a waste of time, a ssh connect should be
    enough. I'd recommend http://www.nomachine.com/, it s away VNC/Tight
    VNC/whatever easily.

    --
    Michael Heiming

    Remove +SIGNS and www. if you expect an answer, sorry for
    inconvenience, but I get tons of SPAM
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    Default Re: What would you use? VNC or Exceed?


    "Michael Heiming" <michael+heiming.de> wrote in message
    news:heiming.de... 
    > ...
    > [/ref]
    > [/ref]
    server: 
    >
    > ...
    >
    > While I agree that those toys are a waste of time, a ssh connect should be
    > enough. I'd recommend http://www.nomachine.com/, it s away VNC/Tight
    > VNC/whatever easily.[/ref]

    The original poster, Dave Best, wrote:

    I have a choice of using Exceed or VNC to remotely work on my Linux
    box..
    (I don't have a second monitor..) Are there any pro's/con's to using
    either?

    This is not a "remote management" situation, which is what the advertising
    for www.nomachine.com describes, and it doesn not have a Windows capability,
    which is what the original poster actually seems to need. If you have some
    experience that shows it would be in any way useful to him, please let us
    know.


    Nico Guest

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    Default Re: What would you use? VNC or Exceed?

    Le Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:52:36 -0400, Dave Best a ecrit :

     



    VNC is great for his stateless mode. You can disconnect & reconnect
    without loosing your work in progress. ThightVNC is great for adaptation
    to low bandwidth (i use thighvnc thru a 56k modem, it is not compfortable,
    but it's usable). VNC is easy to install, configure & use & it is free.

    exceed is an X emulator for windows. It is totally statefull (if you loss
    the connexion, the remote application hang). You may experiment some
    problens with X emulation: actual linux grphical products like kde or
    gnome use bleeding edge X11 extentions & does not expect them missing.

    you may connect X11 directly or use ssh. ssh give you simplicity &
    security, but you loss some interactivity.


    my personal choice is 100% vnc.

    Michel.
    Michel Guest

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    Default Re: What would you use? VNC or Exceed?

    Nico Kadel-Garcia <net> wrote:

    .... 
     
     

    There is a M$ client for nomaschine and the OP wrote about Exceed, so I guess
    he meant he is using some M$ box to connect to some Linux box. That should
    work, only tried Linux --> Linux, where nx s away anything else I've
    tested easily.;)

    --
    Michael Heiming

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    inconvenience, but I get tons of SPAM
    Michael Guest

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    Default Re: What would you use? VNC or Exceed?

    "Dave Best" <ca> wrote in
    news:rTxmb.29487$bellglobal.com:
     

    Why not a cheap KVM like the ones from Belkin[1]? BTW, I use X-Win32[2]
    since it's cheap and works extremely well.

    [1] http://www.kvm-switches-online.com/f1db102p.html
    [2] http://www.starnet.com

    --
    - Mark ->
    --
    Mark Guest

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    Default Re: What would you use? VNC or Exceed?

    Michael Heiming wrote:
     

    .... hey Michael ... based on your response in this thread, i
    went out and downloaded the 'nomachine' server and clients.
    wondering what your experience is with them?

    (i'm now running suse 9.0)
    ..
    --
    /// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\
    \\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///
    Swahili, n.: The language used by the National Enquirer to
    print their retractions. - Johnny Hart

    mjt Guest

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    Default Re: What would you use? VNC or Exceed?

    mjt <com> wrote:
    .... 
     

    Wow, I can't keep up with upgrading...

    So far nx is working great, speed is really great, citrix looks a slow
    dog in comparison.

    Session overtaking would be great and should be possible in future
    versions, if one can believe the FAQ.;)

    Everything is tunneled through normal ssh, so you just need one port,
    without disturbing other ssh sessions. A big pro!

    Just try it out, you can get a test account on their server and try
    out the client first.

    Greetings

    --
    Michael Heiming

    Remove +SIGNS and www. if you expect an answer, sorry for
    inconvenience, but I get tons of SPAM
    Michael Guest

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    Default Re: What would you use? VNC or Exceed?


    "Mark A. Odell" <com> wrote in message
    news:133.1.4... 
    >
    > Why not a cheap KVM like the ones from Belkin[1]? BTW, I use X-Win32[2]
    > since it's cheap and works extremely well.
    >
    > [1] http://www.kvm-switches-online.com/f1db102p.html
    > [2] http://www.starnet.com[/ref]

    He said "remote". I think we can safely assume he means at least 20 feet
    away, which dictates an Ethernet connection instead of a KVM setup.


    Nico Guest

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    Default Re: What would you use? VNC or Exceed?

    "Nico Kadel-Garcia" <net> wrote in
    news:com:
     [/ref][/ref]
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     
    >
    > He said "remote". I think we can safely assume he means at least 20 feet
    > away, which dictates an Ethernet connection instead of a KVM setup.[/ref]

    How would the second monitor help then?

    --
    - Mark ->
    --
    Mark Guest

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    Default Re: What would you use? VNC or Exceed?


    "Mark A. Odell" <com> wrote in message
    news:133.1.4... [/ref]
    > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    > >
    > > He said "remote". I think we can safely assume he means at least 20 feet
    > > away, which dictates an Ethernet connection instead of a KVM setup.[/ref]
    >
    > How would the second monitor help then?[/ref]

    Good point. It does seem contradictory, doesn't it?


    Nico Guest

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