Where to start

[GValleyInFL]

Hi,
I want to network two computers that are three miles apart.
I have not one clue where to start.

I am looking for suggestions on a resource I can turn to either on the
internet or a book to purchase that will help me solve this probem.

Suggestions?
Thanks,
GV

[Graham]

I am a *nix command line programmer looking to get started writing a
simple cocoa gui. Essentially, al I want to do is write a gui that
allows me to enter int/float/double precision values and then write
these in a scientific xml format (I already have the schema) for input
into a numeric model. I have thought long and hard about using tk or
some other lightweight language, but I think I have convinced myself
that this would be a good project to learn cocoa & gui programming
with.

Any ideas of where to begin? I am a reasonable scientific programmer
(C, Fortran, Perl, Python, ...) but have never written a gui.

Thanks,
Graham

[John C. Randolph]

Graham wrote:

>
> I am a *nix command line programmer looking to get started writing a
> simple cocoa gui. Essentially, al I want to do is write a gui that
> allows me to enter int/float/double precision values and then write
> these in a scientific xml format (I already have the schema) for input
> into a numeric model. I have thought long and hard about using tk or
> some other lightweight language, but I think I have convinced myself
> that this would be a good project to learn cocoa & gui programming
> with.
>
> Any ideas of where to begin? I am a reasonable scientific programmer
> (C, Fortran, Perl, Python, ...) but have never written a gui.
>
> Thanks,
> Graham

[url]http://developer.apple.com/macosx/gettingstarted/[/url]
[url]http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn2005.html[/url]

-jcr

[John C. Randolph]

"John C. Randolph" wrote:

>
> Graham wrote:

> >
> > I am a *nix command line programmer looking to get started writing a
> > simple cocoa gui. Essentially, al I want to do is write a gui that
> > allows me to enter int/float/double precision values and then write
> > these in a scientific xml format (I already have the schema) for input
> > into a numeric model. I have thought long and hard about using tk or
> > some other lightweight language, but I think I have convinced myself
> > that this would be a good project to learn cocoa & gui programming
> > with.
> >
> > Any ideas of where to begin? I am a reasonable scientific programmer
> > (C, Fortran, Perl, Python, ...) but have never written a gui.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Graham

>
> [url]http://developer.apple.com/macosx/gettingstarted/[/url]
> [url]http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn2005.html[/url]
>
> -jcr

Forgot to mention: look for the 'vermont recipes' articles on stepwise.com.

-jcr

[matt neuburg]

In <eda30d78.0307231206.5675659e@posting.google.com > Graham wrote:

> I am a *nix command line programmer looking to get started writing a
> simple cocoa gui. Essentially, al I want to do is write a gui that
> allows me to enter int/float/double precision values and then write
> these in a scientific xml format (I already have the schema) for input
> into a numeric model. I have thought long and hard about using tk or
> some other lightweight language, but I think I have convinced myself
> that this would be a good project to learn cocoa & gui programming
> with.
>
> Any ideas of where to begin?

The hands-on Cocoa tutorial included with the dev tools will get you
going. After that it's mostly just a matter of reading the (online) docs
as the need arises. m.

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[jplingo webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

I have been using flash for many of years and I used director many years back before it was a tool for animating 3d.

Are there any books you would suggest to get started?

Is there any 3d program that I should start with (tight budget)?

Any links with tutorials like flashcircle?

Any other suggestions about getting started?

[Jim Schimpf]

Shawn Lavin <s.lavin_I_hate_spam@mdl.com> wrote in message news:<s.lavin_I_hate_spam-D5D943.10343824072003@puffin.mdli.com>...

> In article <eda30d78.0307231206.5675659e@posting.google.com >,
> [email]GrahamWilsonCA@yahoo.ca[/email] (Graham) wrote:
>

> > I am a *nix command line programmer looking to get started writing a
> > simple cocoa gui. Essentially, al I want to do is write a gui that
> > allows me to enter int/float/double precision values and then write
> > these in a scientific xml format (I already have the schema) for input
> > into a numeric model. I have thought long and hard about using tk or
> > some other lightweight language, but I think I have convinced myself
> > that this would be a good project to learn cocoa & gui programming
> > with.
> >
> > Any ideas of where to begin? I am a reasonable scientific programmer
> > (C, Fortran, Perl, Python, ...) but have never written a gui.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Graham

>
> One of the simple example (Currency Converter) has validated input,
> output and the UI elements that you would need to start. Download
> the development tools, follow the step by step tutorial on this
> example and you will know how to do Cocoa gui building as well as
> get a smattering of Objective C.
>
> You can do all the rest in standard C/C++ if you like to speed your
> progress. Write the functions as you would in *nix usually and do
> only the gui in Objective C.

And if you are like me and need a book:

Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X by Aaron Hillegass

--jim

[John C. Randolph]

Jim Schimpf wrote:

> Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X by Aaron Hillegass

For beginners, I also strongly recommend "Learning Cocoa with
Objective-C" from O'Reilly, and "Cocoa Recipes for Mac OS X" (A.k.a the
Vermont Recipes).

-jcr

[Simon Slavin]

In article <eda30d78.0307231206.5675659e@posting.google.com >,
[email]GrahamWilsonCA@yahoo.ca[/email] (Graham) wrote:

>I am a *nix command line programmer looking to get started writing a
>simple cocoa gui. Essentially, al I want to do is write a gui that
>allows me to enter int/float/double precision values and then write
>these in a scientific xml format (I already have the schema) for input
>into a numeric model. I have thought long and hard about using tk or
>some other lightweight language, but I think I have convinced myself
>that this would be a good project to learn cocoa & gui programming
>with.

The simplest GUI language to learn for OS X/Cocoa is AppleScript
Studio. You get to use the standard Cocoa tools for defining
your user interface but you don't have to learn the complexity
of Objective-C to write your code. I'd hard for me to evaluate
it for your situation because you're already a C programmer but
you should find AppleScript Studio no problem to learn.

The development tools for ASS you need are, of course, on the free
developer CD that comes free when you buy OS X or can be downloaded
from the developer site.

[matt neuburg]

In <3F218CC1.27E2E979@nospam.idiom.com> John C. Randolph wrote:

> Jim Schimpf wrote:
>

>> Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X by Aaron Hillegass

>
> For beginners, I also strongly recommend "Learning Cocoa with
> Objective-C" from O'Reilly, and "Cocoa Recipes for Mac OS X" (A.k.a
> the Vermont Recipes).

Not everyone agrees. I didn't find "Learning Cocoa" any help at all when
I was starting out (it just seemed to repeat the online docs in a
curtailed form that wasn't as helpful as the online docs themselves),
and I don't think Bill's book is a beginner book. m.

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[Jim]

John C. Randolph <jcr@nospam.idiom.com> wrote:

> > Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X by Aaron Hillegass

>
> For beginners, I also strongly recommend "Learning Cocoa with
> Objective-C" from O'Reilly, and "Cocoa Recipes for Mac OS X" (A.k.a the
> Vermont Recipes).

I personally found 'Building Cocoa Applications:A Step-by-Step Guide'
(Garfinkel & Mahoney, O'Reilly) to be better than 'Learning Cocoa'.

Jim
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[Tom Harrington]

In article <20030725181842500-0700@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
matt neuburg <matt@tidbits.com> wrote:

> In <3F218CC1.27E2E979@nospam.idiom.com> John C. Randolph wrote:

> > Jim Schimpf wrote:
> >

> >> Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X by Aaron Hillegass

> >
> > For beginners, I also strongly recommend "Learning Cocoa with
> > Objective-C" from O'Reilly, and "Cocoa Recipes for Mac OS X" (A.k.a
> > the Vermont Recipes).

>
> Not everyone agrees. I didn't find "Learning Cocoa" any help at all when
> I was starting out (it just seemed to repeat the online docs in a
> curtailed form that wasn't as helpful as the online docs themselves),
> and I don't think Bill's book is a beginner book. m.

I had the same experience as you with "Learning Cocoa". But that was
the first edition; the second edition is supposed to be very much
improved.

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[Jansolo]

Hi all,

I am looking for a good book (a training from the source or some such) that
will take me from the basics to the advanced of integrating Flash MX and
Coldfusion and Databases. I can do coldfusion and HTML but not dynamic flash
applications.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Jansolo