Which version do I need

[ruby_beyond@adobeforums.com]

I have yr 2000 equipment. G4 os9.2
photoshop
live motion 1
go live 5

I'd like to publish some books, along the lines of 'cosmos' carl sagan.

his books had columns of smaller pics/text on the side, and
paragraphs down the centers.

I'm fairly sure that in design is needed,
not just acrobat, yes?

has anyone had experience w/ both quark and in design ?
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thanks

[Tom Usrey]

You'll need InDesign CS2, and for that you'll have to upgrade to OS X.

[Kyle_Sessions@adobeforums.com]

Sounds to me that InDesign CS1 should fit your needs, if you can find a copy of it anywhere. Unfortunately, I think you'd have to upgrade to OSX for that one, too.

[Tom Usrey]

I still think CS2's Anchored Objects feature would make this a lot easier to do.

[Buko@adobeforums.com]

You need to upgrade plain and simple.

you could do it in Pagemaker if you know what you are doing.

If you don't know what you are doing it just might be best to hire someone who does.

[Stu_Bloom_x@adobeforums.com]

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[Buko@adobeforums.com]

That will work too.

[Bob Levine]

Only if it's actually what it's advertised to be. Buying software on
eBay is big gamble.

Bob

[Buko@adobeforums.com]

That and you will still have some compatibility issues with people running newer versions

[Fred_Goldman@adobeforums.com]

After 894 transactions without one bad feedback, I wouldn't be too worried. Having said that use PayPal and a credit card, two ways of protection.

[Bob Levine]

Meaningless, IMO. There are plenty of crooks who sell cheap stuff to get
themselves a good rating and start selling more expensive rip-offs.

My advices stands. Beware of software on eBay.

Bob

[Eric_@_MCA@adobeforums.com]

If you're still running OS 9 and you're not going to upgrade that, then you're going to need InDesign 2 NOT InDesign CS (3.0) or CS2 (4.0).

If you're going to upgrade to OS X, which could be a bit painful depending on your speed of G4, then you should look at CS2, and possible Creative Suite Standard which will get you the latest version of Photoshop & Illustrator too. Make sure you see if you can get the Photoshop upgrade version in that case. A lot cheaper than a full new copy.

If you're going to upgrade to OS X, your machine should have at least 1gb of RAM & a 733mhz processor, imho. So you may be looking at a pretty big operation to get to CS2.

If you're sticking with OS 9, then you may just look on eBay and see if someone has an old copy of XPress 4 or 5 or InDesign 2 they're ditching cheap? Honestly, for OS 9 XPress 4/5 had a lot more power than InDesign 2, imho... In either case, try and get the serial number and verify with Quark or Adobe that it's registered with the person selling it and not a pirated number. I believe Quark charges $30 to transfer registration, can't remember what Adobe charges (or if they do).

EDIT: If you MUST set it in InDesign, then I agree with everyone that it's probably best to upgrade to OS X and use IDCS2 rather than try and gimp along in ID2.

[Michael_Trout@adobeforums.com]

I am successfully (albeit slowly) running CS2 versions of InDesig, Photoshop and Illustrator applicaitons on a 400 MHz G4 with 768 MB Ram on OS 10.3.9 at home.

My workhorse machine is a Dual 1.42 G4 with 1GB Ram running 10.3.9, also.

I worked for over a year with InDesign 2 and Quark 4 and Quark 5 on an older 333Mhz beige G3 running os 9.2 with a paltry 320 Mb ram. ID2 was slower, but still had a better feature set, IMO, than either version of QXP. Add to it the fact that Quark's constant crashing of the entire system cost me hours of work each day compared to ID2, which was more stable, didn't crater the entire system every time it crashed (rare, but it happened), had a automatic backup feature that would allow restoration of the working file with minimal loss, usually within moments of the crash... and was an OSX transitional program (both OS9 & 10 compatible).

Still, lots of work can be managed on QXP, otherwise it wouldn't still be in use.

I cannot recommend QXP unless:
1) you have alot of money to spend on the base program,
2) you have more money to burn on xtensions to make the program functional,
3) you have alot of time to burn on restarts and lost work,
4) you are never, ever going to upgrade your system,
5) you have to deal with clients or print shops that only accept QXP files.

Downside to running InDesign 2? It is not capable of opening files saved from either of the newer versions. The QXP filter (version 3-4 only) is not as solid as the CS versions.

As a bonus, however, it would open an upgrade path to newer versions if you ever did decide to upgrade your OS.

-mt

[ruby_beyond@adobeforums.com]

thank you eric @ mca

I'm appalled by the number of recommends to upgrade.

For those of you who insist that newer is better,
check out the chatter for LM 1 vs LM 2 and flash.
after macromedia went under, the searches and requests for LM 1
went WAY up.

Live Motion 1: unscripted flash, obsolete, yet sought after.

They called it OS 9 classic for a reason.

[Buko@adobeforums.com]

I'm appalled by the number of recommends to upgrade.




Well we've all used the older versions and newer is better.

As far as Livemotion a discontinued product that has no hope of revival to InDesign a state of the art page layout app is a little far fetched. I suppose if you want to stay stuck in the 1990's thats fine but with the release of the Mactels Classic is even more dead than it is now.

Running old software is fine as long as you don't need to get your files output.

[Eric_@_MCA@adobeforums.com]

ID2 really was a bad joke as far as I am concerned. A lot of promise, but a lot of missing features compared to XPress. I will strongly stipulate however, that my personal experience in the textbook publishing industry may vary from other people's experience in other industries! Please don't run me out of the forum on a rail!

We used ShadowCaster & Badia's control palette regularly, but that were the only two necessary to make XPress 5 fully "functional" to our needs. And as long as you keep your fonts clean, it is possible to get a full 8 hour day out of XPress (but not guaranteed!).

In any case, all of this is based on the concept that you can find a really cheap copy of XPress because I *do* agree with Michael that if you're going to upgrade to OS X in 6 months anyway, then you are probably better off in CS2.

And Michael, you are a much stronger man than I to try and run IDCS2 on a 400mhz G4!!! 8)