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    Default Windows authentication and availability

    We are currently deploying an ASP.Net intranet application to our WAN. The
    application uses integrated Windows authentication. At present, each time
    there is a post-back, our code gets the user’s credentials and queries to see
    whether the user is a member of certain Active Directory groups.

    In order to improve availability in various disaster scenarios, we deploy
    the application to a separate server at each of our 25 physical locations
    around the country. There is also a separate domain controller at each
    location. The idea is that even if the WAN fails, our application can still
    run, provided that the local network is still up.

    I have two questions regarding availability in various disaster recovery
    scenarios.

    1. If the local domain controller fails, will post-backs fail because of our
    use of integrated Windows authentication?

    2. Each time we query the user’s credentials, are round-trips to the domain
    controller involved, or do the credentials get cached somewhere? We would be
    willing to assume that the user's credentials don't change during a single
    ASP.Net session.

    howard@nospam.nospam Guest

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    Default Re: Windows authentication and availability

    On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:25:02 -0700, "howard@nospam.nospam"
    <howardnospamnospam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    ¤ We are currently deploying an ASP.Net intranet application to our WAN. The
    ¤ application uses integrated Windows authentication. At present, each time
    ¤ there is a post-back, our code gets the user’s credentials and queries to see
    ¤ whether the user is a member of certain Active Directory groups.
    ¤
    ¤ In order to improve availability in various disaster scenarios, we deploy
    ¤ the application to a separate server at each of our 25 physical locations
    ¤ around the country. There is also a separate domain controller at each
    ¤ location. The idea is that even if the WAN fails, our application can still
    ¤ run, provided that the local network is still up.
    ¤
    ¤ I have two questions regarding availability in various disaster recovery
    ¤ scenarios.
    ¤
    ¤ 1. If the local domain controller fails, will post-backs fail because of our
    ¤ use of integrated Windows authentication?
    ¤

    Not if you have a backup domain controller by which authentication can occur with respect to
    resource access.

    ¤ 2. Each time we query the user’s credentials, are round-trips to the domain
    ¤ controller involved, or do the credentials get cached somewhere? We would be
    ¤ willing to assume that the user's credentials don't change during a single
    ¤ ASP.Net session.

    Credentials (user ID and password) are cached at the browser level on the client.


    Paul ~~~ [email]pclement@ameritech.net[/email]
    Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)
    Paul Clement Guest

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    Default Re: Windows authentication and availability

    Is information from Active Directory, namely group membership, cached?
    howard@nospam.nospam Guest

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    Default Re: Windows authentication and availability

    On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:51:04 -0700, "howard@nospam.nospam"
    <howardnospamnospam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    ¤ Is information from Active Directory, namely group membership, cached?

    No, not automatically. If you are querying AD with ADSI or DirectoryServices programmatically you
    would have to implement one of the various state or caching mechanisms in code if you wish to retain
    this information between trips to the web server.


    Paul ~~~ [email]pclement@ameritech.net[/email]
    Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)
    Paul Clement Guest

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    Default Re: Windows authentication and availability

    Thanks!

    "Paul Clement" wrote:
    > On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:51:04 -0700, "howard@nospam.nospam"
    > <howardnospamnospam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
    >
    > ¤ Is information from Active Directory, namely group membership, cached?
    >
    > No, not automatically. If you are querying AD with ADSI or DirectoryServices programmatically you
    > would have to implement one of the various state or caching mechanisms in code if you wish to retain
    > this information between trips to the web server.
    >
    >
    > Paul ~~~ [email]pclement@ameritech.net[/email]
    > Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)
    >
    howard@nospam.nospam Guest

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    Default Re: Windows authentication and availability

    How can i do these Caching mechanisms?

    "Paul Clement" <UseAdddressAtEndofMessage@swspectrum.com> wrote in message
    news:mjfvm0d919slgpd5tiqio8nvtq61pvokm4@4ax.com...
    > On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:51:04 -0700, "howard@nospam.nospam"
    > <howardnospamnospam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
    >
    > ¤ Is information from Active Directory, namely group membership, cached?
    >
    > No, not automatically. If you are querying AD with ADSI or
    DirectoryServices programmatically you
    > would have to implement one of the various state or caching mechanisms in
    code if you wish to retain
    > this information between trips to the web server.
    >
    >
    > Paul ~~~ [email]pclement@ameritech.net[/email]
    > Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)

    Patrick.O.Ige Guest

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    Default Re: Windows authentication and availability

    On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:24:52 +1000, "Patrick.O.Ige" <patrickige@acn.waw.pl> wrote:

    ¤ How can i do these Caching mechanisms?
    ¤

    See the following:

    Caching Architecture Guide for .NET Framework Applications
    [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnbda/html/CachingArchch2.asp[/url]


    Paul ~~~ [email]pclement@ameritech.net[/email]
    Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)
    Paul Clement Guest

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