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    Default Re: X11 RENDER support

    On 31 Jul 2003 17:14:59 -0400
    Mental Patient <mental@neverlight.com> wrote:
    > On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 16:25, Chris Metzler wrote:
    >>
    >> So you're saying that if you comment out Xrender, thus turning off
    >> loading of the X Rendering extension, and *restart X*, you still
    >> get those messages? What do your XF86Config-4 and
    >> /var/log/XFree86.0.log(including the messages from X server startup)
    >> look like?
    >
    > No, only that glib complains that I have a buggy render extension
    > regardless of what I do. However, going back and looking shows that the
    > extension gets loaded regardless of whats in the config file.
    Well, I'm not an XFree86 expert by any stretch of the imagination. I'm
    hoping someone more experienced than I am is reading this thread, and
    will jump in if I say something bogus.

    That said, when I look at your log, I see the following interesting
    things . . .

    In the (large) section of the log in which server extension modules are
    loaded, I see:

    } (II) LoadModule: "Xrender"
    } (WW) Warning, couldn't open module Xrender
    } (II) UnloadModule: "Xrender"
    } (EE) Failed to load module "Xrender" (module does not exist, 0)

    i.e. an external Xrender module is *not* being loaded, because it's
    not availble on the disk. And then, later in the log, there's this:

    } (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
    } (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
    } (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
    } (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
    } (II) Initializing built-in extension LBX
    } (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP
    } (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
    } (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
    } (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont
    } (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
    } (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR

    Note the second-to-last entry, and the fact that it's "built-in".
    My guess is that whoever built this X server (maybe Tal and Jon,
    the Libranet folks; or maybe they got it from somewhere else)
    made Xrender built-in to the server, rather than a loadable
    extension . . .sorta analogous to compiling a driver into the
    kernel vs. making it available as a loadable kernel module. In
    such a case, the experience that the gdk library complains about
    RENDER regardless of whether 'load "Xrender"' is commented out
    or not would make sense.

    > Know of an easy way to do this? can i apt-get install --reinstall
    > some_meta_package?
    I know of no easy way to do it. Purging (after backing up your
    XF86Config-4) and re-installing the components of x-window-system
    would do it, I would expect.

    -c


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    Default Re: X11 RENDER support

    On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 17:39, Chris Metzler wrote:
    > Note the second-to-last entry, and the fact that it's "built-in".
    > My guess is that whoever built this X server (maybe Tal and Jon,
    > the Libranet folks; or maybe they got it from somewhere else)
    > made Xrender built-in to the server, rather than a loadable
    > extension . . .sorta analogous to compiling a driver into the
    > kernel vs. making it available as a loadable kernel module. In
    > such a case, the experience that the gdk library complains about
    > RENDER regardless of whether 'load "Xrender"' is commented out
    > or not would make sense.
    >
    >
    Yes, xdpyinfo agrees with this. And I don't care that its loaded. I
    kinda need it for drawing some weird stuff. I just want to fix the weird
    glib warning being spewed to stderr everytime I start gaim or something.
    Its more of an irritation than a problem. Especially since rox-session
    has an overwhelming need to display these messages in the root window
    every single time they're emitted... :/

    > > Know of an easy way to do this? can i apt-get install --reinstall
    > > some_meta_package?
    >
    > I know of no easy way to do it. Purging (after backing up your
    > XF86Config-4) and re-installing the components of x-window-system
    > would do it, I would expect.
    Yeah, I've pretty much come to the same conclusion. I'll budget some
    time for a 'quick'

    dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt ; apt-get remove xlibs ; dpkg
    --set-selections < selections.txt ; apt-get dselect-upgrade

    at some point over the weekend when I'm feeling masochistic I'll
    probably get around to it.

    Thanks tho.


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