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Hi, Looking for a zoom lens with atleast 300mm at the zoom end for my Canon 300D. Initially, I had made up my mind about the Tamron 70-300mm LD but then noticed that the Canon 75-300mm has USM. Quickly went thru reviews and realised that the Canon 100-300mm has true USM (ring-USM vs micro-USM) and is optically rated better than the Canon 75-300mm. Some even compared it to its "L" series sibling, the 100-400mm L. Anyways, a few more reviews down the line, some opined that the Tamron 28-300mm XR is sharper at the 300mm end than the Canon 100-300mm. ...

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    Hi,

    Looking for a zoom lens with atleast 300mm at the zoom end for my Canon
    300D. Initially, I had made up my mind about the Tamron 70-300mm LD but
    then noticed that the Canon 75-300mm has USM. Quickly went thru reviews
    and realised that the Canon 100-300mm has true USM (ring-USM vs
    micro-USM) and is optically rated better than the Canon 75-300mm. Some
    even compared it to its "L" series sibling, the 100-400mm L.

    Anyways, a few more reviews down the line, some opined that the Tamron
    28-300mm XR is sharper at the 300mm end than the Canon 100-300mm. The
    photodo tests rate the Canon 100-300mm USM at 2.4 while the Tamron
    28-300mm is rated at 2.6.

    Then there are a few old Canon 100-300mm f/5.6 lenses floating around
    at eBay.

    What I liked about the Canon 100-300mm f/4.5-5.6 is that it has USM so
    AF should be faster, manual focus over-ride in AF mode and rear
    focussing element.

    I would like to hear comments on:
    1. Optical quality comparison of the three
    2. Build quality
    3. Suitability for 300D sensor, that is, how bad does a lens have to be
    before the 300D sensor can start telling the difference?

    I am open to used lenses and my upper spending limit is US$200.
    Thanks,

    Siddhartha

    Siddhartha Guest

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    Go with the Canon, the 100-300 (not L version) has a slightly better
    reputation then the 75-300 lens. However for your price range I would go
    with the 75-300 it really is a decent lens for the price, but both are no
    comparison at all to L glass like the 100-400 f/4-5.6L (especially in price
    $200 vs. $1500). Stick with Canon after all you spent for a Canon digital.

    Good Luck

    "Siddhartha Jain" <co.uk> wrote in message
    news:googlegroups.com... 


    YoYo Guest

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    On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:43:34 -0500, "YoYo" <_> wrote:
     
    >[/ref]
    I use a Sigma 28-300 F 3.5 -6.3 macro hyperzoom on my 300Dand i leave
    it mounted as my main lens. In my opinion the results with this lens
    are astounding for its modest price. May be worth a look.


    Bruin Guest

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    Siddhartha Jain wrote:

     

    I've got the EF 100-300 f/4.5-5.6

    It's not a bad little lens. It isn't as sharp as my EF 100-400 L, but
    the color and contrast is about the same. What I really don't like about
    it is that it's *very* prone to purple fringing.

    I carry it in my camera bag and use it when I don't want to lug the
    100-400 around.. I've also got a 58mm Canon 250D close up lens that
    fits the 100-300 and makes a pretty good macro combo.

    I have no experience with the other lenses you mentioned.


    Jim Guest

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    "YoYo" <_> wrote in news:supernews.com:

    re: lenses
     

    That's extremely bad advice. Lenses are good or bad depending on their
    design, features, and build, not the logo stamped on them.

    Tamron is really inconsistent - I had a wide zoom from them that was so bad
    I took it out, placed it in a bag, and worked it over with a sledgehammer.
    OTOH, I broke down and bought an SP AF28-75/2.8 XR Di LD Aspherical (IF)
    Macro last week, and optically it keeps up with my "L" glass beautifully.

    Yes, it's not made as well as the 24-70L. It doesn't focus as fast. It's
    not weather sealed. It was also just $350 instead of over a thousand bucks,
    a compromise I was very happy to make. Would everyone? No - but you select
    what you pay based on the features set, not the name.

    As for Siddhartha's question, I own a 75-300IS and cannot reccomend it
    except as a budget lens you'll replace sometime soon. The glass is
    mediocre, the USM is adequate at best. The construction is cheap, it's a
    very elongating push-pull design and the IS helps but is no substitute for
    fast glass. Unfortunately, I have no experience with the other lenses you
    are looking at, but it certainly does seem that the 28-300 is not well
    regarded.

    Eric Guest

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    Sorry you don't agree Eric but you are wrong still in my opinion.
    Here is a site that compares the 75-300 to some L lenses and it really does
    well considering.
    http://www.wildpicture.com/pages/photography/lenstest/index.htm
    see for yourself.

    "Eric Gill" <com> wrote in message
    news:223.5.254... 
    >
    > That's extremely bad advice. Lenses are good or bad depending on their
    > design, features, and build, not the logo stamped on them.
    >
    > Tamron is really inconsistent - I had a wide zoom from them that was so[/ref]
    bad 
    bucks, 


    YoYo Guest

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    In message <supernews.com>,
    "YoYo" <_> wrote:
     

    The images are severly downsized, and I can still see the softness of
    the 75-300 (not to mention less contrast).
    --

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    John P Sheehy <komm> 
    JPS@no.komm Guest

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    In message <supernews.com>,
    Jim Townsend <address> wrote:
     

    Purple fringing is a sensor problem. Do you mean chromatic aberration?
    --

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    John P Sheehy <komm> 
    JPS@no.komm Guest

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    komm wrote in news:com:
     
    >
    > Purple fringing is a sensor problem. Do you mean chromatic
    > aberration?[/ref]

    What's the difference? Is the definition of chromatic aberration different
    in your dictionary? (Purple fringing is an aberration of the chroma as far
    as I know)



    --
    Mark Heyes (New Zealand)
    See my pics at www.gigatech.co.nz (last updated 12-Nov-04)
    "There are 10 types of people, those that
    understand binary and those that don't"

    MarkH Guest

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    JPS instead of you always arguing, why dont you offer something better for
    the original poster? We will keep you in our prayers... piti

    <komm> wrote in message
    news:com... [/ref]
    does 
    >
    > The images are severly downsized, and I can still see the softness of
    > the 75-300 (not to mention less contrast).
    > --
    >
    > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<>
    > John P Sheehy <komm> [/ref]


    YoYo Guest

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    "YoYo" <_> wrote in news:supernews.com:
     

    <shrug> Since you're recommending buying on reputation rather than an
    objective comparison, you needn't qualify that.

    Do you OWN a copy of the 75-300IS? I do. They are mediocre at best.
    Compared to quality glass like, say, the Sigma 70-200, the results you
    get will simply make you want to pitch the lens.
     

    Amazing what you can do in post-processing. Downsampling in particular
    will cover a variety of sins.

    Sorry - I dunno what he's up to, but it's not make an objective review.
     
    >>
    >> That's extremely bad advice. Lenses are good or bad depending on
    >> their design, features, and build, not the logo stamped on them.
    >>
    >> Tamron is really inconsistent - I had a wide zoom from them that was
    >> so[/ref]
    > bad 
    > bucks, 
    >
    >[/ref]


    Eric Guest

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    In message <S7iGd.817321$easynews.com>,
    MarkH <dot.dot> wrote:
     
     [/ref]
     [/ref][/ref]
     [/ref]
     

    It's not an aberration. It is electrons from saturated green-filtered
    sensors spilling into the surrounding blue- and red-filtered sensors.
    It is only purple because the demosaicing algorithm thinks it's real red
    and blue light.
    --

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    John P Sheehy <komm> 
    JPS@no.komm Guest

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    komm wrote in news:com:
     
    > [/ref]
    > [/ref]
    > [/ref]

    >
    > It's not an aberration. It is electrons from saturated green-filtered
    > sensors spilling into the surrounding blue- and red-filtered sensors.
    > It is only purple because the demosaicing algorithm thinks it's real
    > red and blue light.[/ref]

    This is fascinating, I have never heard of this before. Could you provide
    some links to info on this problem and why it happens? I really would like
    to read up more on this.



    --
    Mark Heyes (New Zealand)
    See my pics at www.gigatech.co.nz (last updated 12-Nov-04)
    "There are 10 types of people, those that
    understand binary and those that don't"

    MarkH Guest

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    Eric Gill wrote: 
    their 

    Yep, I have my eye on the Tamron 17-35mm f/2.8-4. At $450, it looks
    very tempting.
     
    It's 
    bucks, 
    select 

    Ahhh!! you can't compare with a $1000++ "L" lens. Simply not fair :)

     
    it 
    it's a 
    substitute for 
    you 
    well 

    I think I'll get the Canon 100-300mm f/4.5-5.6. When I have more money
    (maybe in a couple of years), I'll probably get the 100-400mm "L". But
    the build quality of the 100-300mm looks like its well worth keeping
    even then. The features it has over the 75-300mm USM are:
    - Ring-USM (aka true USM) hence faster AF and MF over-ride
    - Rear-focussing elememt
    - Metal mount (polycarbonate body)
    - distance window

    Optically, no one seems to put it WAY above the 75-300mm but maybe just
    a notch above.

    Thanks for the replies.

    - Siddhartha

    Siddhartha Guest

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    "Siddhartha Jain" <co.uk> wrote in
    news:googlegroups.com:
     
    > their 
    >
    > Yep, I have my eye on the Tamron 17-35mm f/2.8-4. At $450, it looks
    > very tempting.[/ref]

    Allegedly great for the money. I splurged for the Canon L version (ouch!),
    so am very spoiled here. Having a constant f-stop is a wonderful thing.

    <snip>
     

    Ten to one I break down and buy the "L" - in about a year or so, when I'll
    hopefully be shooting even more than now. In the meantime, I got some great
    glass, my wife got a shopping spree, and there was money left over, thus
    helping to ensure I'll still be married a year from now.

    RE: Canon 100-300mm f/4.5-5.6.
     

    Well, it seems you have to bring a great pile of cash to the table for a
    better zoom in the 300+ range. On paper (never used it) all the features
    you list plus the low price makes it sound like the best choice available.
     

    You bet.

    Eric Guest

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